December 18, 2001, 18:27
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Originally posted by War4ever
i make about 29500k and my upkeep is around 4500...so i am neting about 25ooo with all my banks right now.......
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That's good. (I only make 4,000-5,000 per day  )
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5400defspec
2400elites
450offspec...to train into elites when they come home...
250 wizzies
175 thieves
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i need way more elites...so i can't go hospitals yet.....as i need those armouries...
125 homes 21.5%
55 farms 9.5%
112 arm 19.2%
125 barack 21.5%
89 banks 15.3%
30 guilds/towers 5% each
12 stables 2%
4 forts under construction...
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I don't think you'll need forts. At least, not in this phase.
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i am losing 2-300 bushels of food per month
not really growing too quick
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Try casting Nature's Blessing.
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i have tons of cash but no troops to train...
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i am low on thieves, wizzies, and elites......
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Well, you can't have it all 
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i wonder what i should do with my 53 new acres in 12 hours....
at least my arnies come home quick!
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OK, let's phase things out then.
600 - 1,000 acres
35% Homes
07% Farms
05% Guilds
05% Towers
20% Armories
25% Barracks
03% Stables
Only train Elf Lords
And watch your NW/acre 
1,000+ acres
35% Homes
05% Farms
05% Guilds
05% Towers
20% Hospitals
25% Barracks
05% Stables
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December 18, 2001, 20:16
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Originally posted by Zopperoni
Try casting Nature's Blessing.
Try casting Patriotism.
And watch your NW/acre
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ok what do you mean watch my NW/acre 
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December 18, 2001, 20:17
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Zopperoni
Try casting Nature's Blessing.
Try casting Patriotism.
And watch your NW/acre
ok what do you mean watch my NW/acre
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December 18, 2001, 20:30
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Originally posted by War4ever
ok what do you mean watch my NW/acre
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Simple: don't appear "landfat"
Try to maintain a NW/acre-ratio of 130-160 gc per acre.
If your NW/acre-ratio would be 100-120 gc per acre, you would appear as a potential target for other Attackers, because NW/acre-ratio is the first thing most Attackers look at when looking for targets.
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December 20, 2001, 01:26
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alright....700 acres and rising...... but this stupid kd has sent yet another dragon against us......gr.......
oh well.....thanks for the help zopper....i am following the strats you have given me and i have kept the other ones.....
you know , for when the next age starts...i assume you have to start all over again....
perhaps this time i won't fiick up so much  
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December 20, 2001, 02:47
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alright....700 acres and rising...... but this stupid kd has sent yet another dragon against us......gr.......
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oh well.....thanks for the help zopper....i am following the strats you have given me and i have kept the other ones.....
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No problem. It's a way for me to see if the strat works or not as well, without having to try it all myself 
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you know , for when the next age starts...i assume you have to start all over again....
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Yes, I'm prolly going Halfling/Rogue then.
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December 21, 2001, 18:43
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i will likely go avian or dwarf next time as a heavy attacker
do you think it would be wise to retrain some of my def spec into elite..... currently the ration is 2-1 and the defense wasn't enough to stop an avian who was 100acres smaller to rape me for 87 acres today..
i am at 650 with 6200 def spec and 3500 elites.... i was thinking of retraining 2200 of them into elites....
build hospitals and make some more land grabs...... like an idiot i built forts by mistake....... instead of hospitals 
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December 21, 2001, 20:21
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Originally posted by War4ever
do you think it would be wise to retrain some of my def spec into elite..... currently the ration is 2-1 and the defense wasn't enough to stop an avian who was 100acres smaller to rape me for 87 acres today..
i am at 650 with 6200 def spec and 3500 elites.... i was thinking of retraining 2200 of them into elites....
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Judging from your information and if you have the money, then I would say why not
Go for the elites now, stop training specs and see what it brings you
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December 22, 2001, 05:51
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You're an Elf, why do you need specs? You have cheap Elites, and with some armouries you can get the cost to 600-700 per elite, and this is all you need.
I was hit again for 80+ acres, but I'm at ~650 now. My plans went wrong because I thought that the age started in the beginning of December, not November so I underestimated the other players.
In 2-3 days I'll start the sci pump.
The Province of Bla Bla Bla (40:46)
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Utopian Date: May 4th, YR7
RL Date: December 22nd, 2001 (9:00 GMT)
Ruler Name: Sir Eli the Great the Sorcerer
Personality & Race: The Mystic, Elf
Land: 626 Acres
Money: 1,035,237gc
Food: 19,212 bushels
Runes: 18,003 runes
Population: 15,097 citizens (24.12 per Acre)
Peasants: 9,164 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 9,297 (99% Utilization)
Trade Balance: -13,609gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 73,021 (116.65 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 7,267gc
Soldiers: 256 (36.7% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 0
Archers: 67 (268 defense points)
Elf Lords: 4,491 (22,455 offense and defense)
War-Horses: 0
Total Attack points: 22,967 (36.69 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 11,742 (18.76 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 23,235 (37.12 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 12,010 (19.19 per Acre)
Thieves: 721 (1.15 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
Wizards: 398 (0.64 per Acre / 100% Mana)
Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 1,211 (1.93 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 908 (1.45 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 288 (0.46 per Acre)
Buildings: 1,387gc to build, 542gc to raze
Away bonus: 45,820gc (12h) / 137,460gc (20h)
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Not bad, Eli, not bad at all 
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Utopian Date: May 7th, YR7
RL Date: December 22nd, 2001 (12:00 GMT)
Ruler Name: The Wise Lord Belthazor
Personality & Race: The Sage, Halfling
Land: 1,190 Acres
Money: 1,201,102gc
Food: 297,456 bushels
Runes: 1,611 runes
Population: 31,764 citizens (26.69 per Acre)
Peasants: 5,363 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 14,155 (65% Utilization)
Trade Balance: 1,543,379gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 204,897 (172.18 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 54,633gc
Soldiers: 0 (77.2% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 0
Archers: 12,000 (48,000 defense points)
Half-Giants: 6,000 (30,000 offense / 24,000 defense)
War-Horses: 0
Total Attack points: 30,000 (25.21 per Acre)
Practical (60% elites): 18,000 (15.13 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 72,000 (60.50 per Acre)
Practical (40% elites): 57,600 (48.40 per Acre)
Thieves: 6,532 (5.49 per Acre / 80% Stealth)
Wizards: 1,869 (1.57 per Acre / 60% Mana)
Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 9,106 (7.65 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 6,830 (5.74 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 2,162 (1.82 per Acre)
Buildings: 950gc to build, 730gc to raze
Away bonus: 26,815gc (12h) / 80,445gc (20h)
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December 22, 2001, 10:00
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I'm currently in the midst of training a lot of soldiers at the moment so this will be different in a few hours.
The Province of The Sith Empire (21:37)
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Utopian Date: May 8th, YR7
RL Date: December 22nd, 2001 (13:00 GMT)
Ruler Name: Sir Palpatine the Sorcerer
Personality & Race: The Mystic, Elf
Land: 483 Acres
Money: 12gc
Food: 98,644 bushels
Runes: 7,789 runes
Population: 9,379 citizens (19.42 per Acre)
Peasants: 5,907 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 7,129 (88% Utilization)
Trade Balance: 43,135gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 40,300 (83.44 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 5,207gc
Soldiers: 853 (35.1% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 0
Archers: 626 (2,504 defense points)
Elf Lords: 1,145 (5,725 offense and defense)
War-Horses: 700 (up to 700 additional offense)
Total Attack points: 8,131 (16.83 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 5,266 (10.90 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 9,935 (20.57 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 7,070 (14.64 per Acre)
[500 Acres land assumed for thieves calculation]
Thieves: 664 (1.33 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
Wizards: 184 (0.38 per Acre / 100% Mana)
Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Maximum Possible Thieves: 868 (1.74 per Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 651 (1.30 per Acre)
Maximum Possible Wizards: 868 (1.80 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 206 (0.43 per Acre)
Buildings: 1,257gc to build, 494gc to raze
Away bonus: 29,535gc (12h) / 88,605gc (20h)
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December 22, 2001, 16:38
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why can't i cb myself...... it told me i was truly evil to try..... anyways pls don't cb me....i have a spell up to repell the next evil spelll and such.....shame to waste it....
that all aside..... i am 657 acres receiving 41 more in 10 hourss
6000def spec
3900 elites
300 wizzies
151 thieves
retraining is a slow process.....even when you are making 30k a day
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December 22, 2001, 19:05
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why can't i cb myself...... it told me i was truly evil to try..... anyways pls don't cb me....i have a spell up to repell the next evil spelll and such.....shame to waste it....
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Uhm, you don't cast it on yourself. What you do is you copy the information of your province in the Menu-screen; Angel will automatically react on it
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that all aside..... i am 657 acres receiving 41 more in 10 hourss
6000def spec
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retraining is a slow process.....even when you are making 30k a day
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December 22, 2001, 19:31
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thanks again zopper.... i should have named my province newbie kd , ruled by the honorable landfat!!!!
i have tried to find out the exact #'s for spells ie.. how much defense you get from casting minor protection and such.
anyone know where you can find the exact science alotments... i have scoured boards and boards of threads and alot of it is idiots with even more idiotic responses
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December 22, 2001, 20:27
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thanks again zopper.... i should have named my province newbie kd , ruled by the honorable landfat!!!!
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You gotta watch it though, might be too conspicuous
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i have tried to find out the exact #'s for spells ie.. how much defense you get from casting minor protection and such.
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This will enlighten you, me thinks
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anyone know where you can find the exact science alotments... i have scoured boards and boards of threads and alot of it is idiots with even more idiotic responses
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Better grab you calculator
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December 22, 2001, 21:08
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ok..... thanks zopper..... now tell me...where was that material taken from.... i have been to utopia temple...and the other utopia board.
what are some other boards which have utopia discussions and strats and such...could you provide links too
and a ? about networth.... how does one increase their networth?
say your 500 acres and your networth is 75k... and someone else is 500 acres and 62k.... what is the difference between empires...and why would someone have such a huge difference.
my networth is around 93k on 657 acres.... around the 140k per acre range...... we have a guy with 1211 acres and 195k networth.... he is definitely a higher nw/a ...why is that..and how can i increase mine
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I'm landfat. and thats not an invitation to attack me. i'm looking at you war.
1000 acres 115knw.
I do the whole retal when i get hit though. i just got hit and i retalled by fireballing 2000 of his peasants and kidnapping 1000 of them. then taking 97 acres.
As well as riots for 9 days, killed 500 of his soldiers and stole all his runes
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December 23, 2001, 04:40
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ok....guyx help me out on this one....
Mick Ling 49:4 is an elf..500 acres.... 4000k def spec and 1000elites....
no big deal...were at war....he has maimed me with his spells...and says he will do so until i am dead
zopper....can you rape him bad for me and then i will take some land by force....i want this guy out of the game ....permanently..!!!
i would be forever in your debt..... they stated the war as we were at war with two others....now they are fighting just us...
for gods sake....someone hit him hard....
i will follow up in the moring....i would forever be in debt.... or perhaps you could ask your kd to help..i know were along ways away but my kd would be forever eternal.....not too mention they have a guy around 1100 acres...who acts more like a farm than anything else....and their king is a spy farm, nothing more
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December 23, 2001, 08:28
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Good hunting
Here's a really landfat target for you guys:
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Utopian Date: June 7th, YR7
RL Date: December 23rd, 2001 (12:00 GMT)
Ruler Name: Ms. smartcarton0 the Warrior
Personality & Race: The Warrior, Dwarf
Land: 821 Acres
Money: 266,832gc
Food: 41,426 bushels
Runes: 958 runes
Population: 13,136 citizens (16.00 per Acre)
Peasants: 7,302 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 12,170 (72% Utilization)
Trade Balance: -70,197gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 67,724 (82.49 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 8,786gc
Soldiers: 976 (41.8% estimated draft rate)
Axemen: 0
Archers: 837 (3,348 defense points)
Berserkers: 2,575 (15,450 offense / 12,875 defense)
War-Horses: 2 (up to 2 additional offense)
Total Attack points: 17,404 (21.20 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 9,682 (11.79 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 18,175 (22.14 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 11,740 (14.30 per Acre)
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 1,464 (1.78 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 1,098 (1.34 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 348 (0.42 per Acre)
** Thievery Advisor: **
Money: 631 thieves to steal up to 45,361gc
Food: 192 thieves to steal up to 20,713 bushels
Runes: 16 thieves to steal up to 335 runes
Peasants: 2,336 thieves to kidnap up to 292 peasants
Peasants in War: 2,336 thieves for 584 peasants
Soldiers: 146 thieves to kill up to 146 soldiers
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December 23, 2001, 10:22
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ok....guyx help me out on this one....
Mick Ling 49:4 is an elf..500 acres.... 4000k def spec and 1000elites....
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He's got 4000 Archers and 1000 soldiers, he's got no Elites.
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The Province of MICK LING (48:4)
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Utopian Date: June 9th, YR7
RL Date: December 23rd, 2001 (14:00 GMT)
Ruler Name: Sir SIR the Sorcerer
Personality & Race: The Mystic, Elf
Land: 467 Acres
Money: 78,790gc
Food: 38,657 bushels
Runes: 16,615 runes
Population: 9,920 citizens (21.24 per Acre)
Peasants: 3,235 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 6,862 (63% Utilization)
Trade Balance: -58,243gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 48,706 (104.30 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 9,503gc
Soldiers: 1,242 (63.6% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 0
Archers: 3,879 (15,516 defense points)
Elf Lords: 0
War-Horses: 0
Total Attack points: 2,484 (5.32 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 2,484 (5.32 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 18,000 (38.54 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 18,000 (38.54 per Acre)
[500 Acres land assumed for thieves calculation]
Maximum Possible Thieves: 1,584 (3.17 per Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 1,188 (2.38 per Acre)
Maximum Possible Wizards: 1,584 (3.39 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 376 (0.81 per Acre)
** Thievery Advisor: **
Money: 187 thieves to steal up to 13,394gc
Food: 179 thieves to steal up to 19,328 bushels
Runes: 277 thieves to steal up to 5,815 runes
Peasants: 1,032 thieves to kidnap up to 129 peasants
Peasants in War: 1,036 thieves for 259 peasants
Soldiers: 186 thieves to kill up to 186 soldiers
Arson: 1,500 thieves to burn up to 6 homes
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no big deal...were at war....he has maimed me with his spells...and says he will do so until i am dead
zopper....can you rape him bad for me and then i will take some land by force....i want this guy out of the game ....permanently..!!!
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He's too small for effective ops, I stole some of his runes and kidnapped some of his people, but there wasn't much that I could do. Besides that, we have no relations, so I can't do Black Ops.
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i would be forever in your debt..... they stated the war as we were at war with two others....now they are fighting just us...
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Organize the Kd, get the Mages to take out the Thieves and the Thieves to take out the Mages. Get CBs on the top 10 provinces, good luck.
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for gods sake....someone hit him hard....
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i will follow up in the moring....i would forever be in debt.... or perhaps you could ask your kd to help..i know were along ways away but my kd would be forever eternal.....not too mention they have a guy around 1100 acres...who acts more like a farm than anything else....and their king is a spy farm, nothing more
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I think I can take care of the 1100-guy, he's more my size, so I'll rob him.
War4ever, I'm sorry I can't do much, because of the size-difference and because we have no war-relations with them.
But I'll try and steal as many runes off him as I can.
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December 23, 2001, 12:37
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dammit..this guyz woke up every five hours to meteor me......i am dying off quickly thanks for your help zoppper....he still has 15k runes
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December 23, 2001, 15:42
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I see he got hit hard lately, fireball him a few times, he's only got 2800 peasants.
I already cast Vermin and Drought on him (for 14 and 10 days).
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December 23, 2001, 17:18
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thanks zopper...... if we all razed him at the same time could we wipe him out.....that is essentially what i want to do...it will also stop the war were in.
how do i figure out my 12h and 20h away bonus...i can never see it
thanks for those links..i surfed some of them already...
i saw you on the other day as lord belthazaar...spelling i am sure is wrong 
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damm so close to taking that dwarf..and then had to abort at the last min
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I just started to rebuild on my way to the sci pump. I got 750 acres, and it costed me over 500kgc only to raze and construct new buildings. The temporary strategy is:
25% Homes
8% Farms
18% Banks
6% Hospitals
10% Guilds
13% Towers(stockpiling runes for a fast paradasing after the sci pump is over)
10% Guilds(equals to 20%)
20% Universities(of course)
After it's over I'll go with :
35% Homes
7% Farms
20% Armouries
10% Guilds
13% Towers
5% Hospitals
10% Banks
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December 24, 2001, 10:00
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Darn. If i'm going to make 35000 sci points for everything except tools and war, and 10,000 into tools it will cost 7,500kgc. So it will take me a whole week...
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December 24, 2001, 13:31
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Try dropping 10,000 points in Channeling and Thievery.
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December 24, 2001, 15:29
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Maybe... But it's only a 10% decrease in the total cost. Not very significant.
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December 24, 2001, 15:31
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But I have 20k sci points accumulated by the libraries! So it will be only 6,750kgc. One day less.
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