October 27, 2001, 14:18
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Chieftain
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What goverments will you make with the editor?
 With only a limited amount of goverments to choose from im sure people will use the editor for a wide variety of goverments. I always like choosing facism, for my military conquest, and thirst for power and destruction. Ill probably create a theocracy goverment as well for that one religous nation. Maybe a tolitarian or dictator style goverment as well. And of coarse the virtual democracy from CTP for the futuristic america style goverment. I would say with the editor one could probably put restrictions on evil or fanatical style goverments like facism,tolitarian, etc to be restricted from the U.N. that would be cool.
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October 27, 2001, 14:26
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King
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If you utilize the search function, you'll find there is already a thread discussing this very topic. Perhaps you should add to it or bump it to the top if it interests you.
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October 27, 2001, 20:31
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Prince
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Althoguh this has already been discussed on a thread entitled governments i'll post anyways, cuz there are plenty of people who probaly didn't see that thread.
The govs i suggested were:
Fundamentalism
Technocracy
Collective
Corporate Capitalism
I forget all the other ones i posted
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October 27, 2001, 21:41
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Chieftain
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I was hoping someone with the new strategy guide that's out would go into a little more detail about exactly how you get to edit goverments. Do you add goverments? or just change the ones that already exist. Do you get to put restrictions on the evil ones? ETC.
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October 27, 2001, 22:01
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Chieftain
Local Time: 15:26
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Enslavery
- allow to use slave to construct a wonder or an army
- no citizen is ever unhappy
- ulimited units
- settler doesnt eat food
- no corruption or waste
- other civilization are mad against you
- 50% less production
- 50% less science
- 25% less taxes
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October 27, 2001, 22:16
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Warlord
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Originally posted by facistdictator
I was hoping someone with the new strategy guide that's out would go into a little more detail about exactly how you get to edit goverments. Do you add goverments? or just change the ones that already exist. Do you get to put restrictions on the evil ones? ETC.
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The characteristics in the editor are:
Prerequisite - what tech is required
level of corruption and waste
unit support costs
rate cap (upper limit on science)
worker rate - how fast terrain improvements are made
assimilation chace - chance a city will leave and join a neighboring civ
draft limit
military police
resistance modifier-how long captured cities resist before they start working for their captor
hurrying production - forced labor (human sacrifice), paid labor or none
war weariness
espionage bonuses and immunities
ruler titles
various other flags that weren't detailed...
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October 27, 2001, 22:32
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Originally posted by Akillias
Enslavery
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- settler doesnt eat food
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Settlers and workers dont require food under any forms of government any more. Which is a good thing. 
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October 27, 2001, 22:41
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Prince
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Ive posted this before but what the hell.
Fundy: Civ 2s version modified
Fuedalism: Despotism without the restrictions on resourses and a MUCH stronger army
Fascism: Civ 2's communism with fewer free units, low corruption (opposed to none) but some industry bonuses (have to see the editor to know what)
City state: Good science, good workers, High corruption, Medium amount of free units, and a high chance of losing cities to a better culture.
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October 27, 2001, 22:45
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Warlord
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Benevolent enlightened dictatorship? On second thought, Nah....
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October 27, 2001, 23:05
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King
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I think i will be making a destinction between Stalinism and Communism.
-FMK.
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October 27, 2001, 23:24
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King
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All my ideas for gov'ts including regular ones:
Ancient Age
Tyranny
Monarchy
City-State
Middle Ages
Absolute Monarchy
Republic
Theocracy
Industrial Age
Constitutional Monarchy
Democratic Republic
Fascism
Modern Age
Fundamentalism
Communism
Genetic Age
E-Democracy
Technocracy
Corperate Republic
Nanotech Age
Virtual Democracy
Ecotopia
Cyberneticism
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October 27, 2001, 23:34
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Chieftain
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More importantly can anyone make it so the AI uses them, and uses them well?
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October 28, 2001, 00:35
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Chieftain
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Hey Andrew1999, you have a copy of the game right. Well answer this what exactly did you mean by editing the flags ETC. 
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"How must the man be constituted who will lead Germany back to her old heights?" The man, should be a dictator not averse to the use of slogans, street parades and demagoguery. He must be a man of the people yet have nothing in common with the mass. Like every great man, he must be "all personality," and one who"does not shrink from bloodshed. Great questions are always decided by blood and iron." To reach his goal, he must be prepared "to trample on his closest friends," dispense law "with terrible hardness" and deal with people and nations "with cautious and sensitive fingers" or if need be "trample on them with the boots of a grenadier." ---Rudolf Hess
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October 28, 2001, 08:55
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Warlord
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Totalitarianism
Corruption: Medium
Support: town 2, city 4, metro 8
Science Rate Cap: 50%
Worker rate: 150%
Assimilation Chance: Very high
Draft limit: None
Military Police: Unlimited, each makes 2 citizens happy
Resistance Modifier: 1 turn
Hurry production: Forced labor
War Weariness: None
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October 28, 2001, 11:07
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Emperor
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Quote:
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Originally posted by Akillias
Enslavery
- allow to use slave to construct a wonder or an army
- no citizen is ever unhappy
- ulimited units
- settler doesnt eat food
- no corruption or waste
- other civilization are mad against you
- 50% less production
- 50% less science
- 25% less taxes
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Oh yeah, slaves were never unhappy... 
And why would corruption and waste be 0?
The only government I think I may add at first will be Democratic Socialism. It will have the benefits of Democracy minus the high unhappiness factors, and will be the last govt type one can obtain.
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October 28, 2001, 14:30
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Chieftain
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can someone with the game already post a screenshot of editing the goverments. 
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"How must the man be constituted who will lead Germany back to her old heights?" The man, should be a dictator not averse to the use of slogans, street parades and demagoguery. He must be a man of the people yet have nothing in common with the mass. Like every great man, he must be "all personality," and one who"does not shrink from bloodshed. Great questions are always decided by blood and iron." To reach his goal, he must be prepared "to trample on his closest friends," dispense law "with terrible hardness" and deal with people and nations "with cautious and sensitive fingers" or if need be "trample on them with the boots of a grenadier." ---Rudolf Hess
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October 28, 2001, 14:45
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Uh... no one has the game yet... except for reviewers.
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October 28, 2001, 17:01
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Warlord
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Uh... no one has the game yet... except for reviewers.
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Then maybe that guy running the Bump thread is a reviewer. He's been a gold mine of info and screen shots though.
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October 29, 2001, 18:24
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Prince
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Libertarianism would be cool. Constant tax rate of 10%. Smaller but more effective army.
And like 10 additional features...
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October 29, 2001, 19:51
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King
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Uh... no one has the game yet... except for reviewers.
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October 29, 2001, 19:59
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Emperor
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Quote:
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Originally posted by facistdictator
I was hoping someone with the new strategy guide that's out would go into a little more detail about exactly how you get to edit goverments. Do you add goverments? or just change the ones that already exist. Do you get to put restrictions on the evil ones? ETC.
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 Evil goverments?
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October 30, 2001, 15:01
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Chieftain
Local Time: 09:26
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I'll probably create:
Constitutional Monarchy
Theocracy (perhaps in multiple flavors)
Democratic Socialism
Welfare State
Corporate State/Oligarchy
Fascism
Military Dictatorship (Pinochet-style)
Anarcho-Syndicalism (technically not a government, but it'd be cool anyway)
Anarcho-Communism (ditto)
Libertarianism/laisse-faire capitalism
Technocracy
Direct Democracy
After I've finished a few games of Civ3 and played around with it's features a little I'll probably spend some time creating a few dozen different governments which would fit well into different scenarios. WizardOcracy (rule of wizards), The Rule of Robots/AI (whatever you'd call that), etc. I would be interesting to split Communism into it's different varieties - Stalinism, Moaism, Castroism, Leninism, etc.
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