November 3, 2001, 08:14
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My Biscuit Tin is stuck in Cologne, Germany, since these UPS whankers do not work in weekends............   
There go costly planned days of playing.
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November 3, 2001, 08:29
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Rasbelin, Down Under is with you.
Infogrames has not only made a bad commercial decision, but risks an international public relations disaster. Infogrames: It's not too late to correct this oversight 
LE for Aussies & Everybody NOW!
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...as the free people of the world cried out for LE, Infogrames replied 'Let them eat cake'.
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November 3, 2001, 09:35
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Originally posted by Beammeuppy
I am a bit confused here. I ordered my copy at EB about a month ago and according to UPS it is in Cologne, Germay right now (could drive their in an hour or so).
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If you receive in the near future, just let us know.
I really can't give any good explanation to that.
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November 3, 2001, 09:47
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Originally posted by Darkknight
I probably wouldn't buy the BT but I know a lot of people here who would so I'm in!
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Good decission, Darkknight!
Your choice as ACS signature is a good one.
I suggest that even the "settlers" would
start to use signatures (check out the Control Panel, Edit Profile).
Especially pro-BTC sigs would be good. 
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November 3, 2001, 09:52
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Originally posted by SITS
Amazon has just informed me that the Biscuit Tin is now on its way to the green and pleasant England. I don't know if this is because I ordered before the International ban....
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I have also "pre-ordered" from Amazon.com
the BTE on 14th October and I have sent them
a SWIFT cheque as payment. They have confirmed
that they have received my payment, so Amazon.com
has my cash, but my game hasn't moved at all.
It hasn't been shipped at all!
And they are changing the arrival dates every
day, so I'm just wondering what their intesion is.
Are they going to keep my 72.97$ and leave my
only the SWIFT cheque order contract?
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November 3, 2001, 10:12
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Originally posted by Admiral PJ
Down with the capitalist fascists
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I do think its unfair, see my post in the general section.
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Here's a direct link to that thread:
Take action for Civ III LE!
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November 3, 2001, 12:40
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Originally posted by shinoui
I already sent e-mails to Firaxis and to Infogrames France. Firaxis never answered, Infogrames sent back a silly mail asking me to check the schedule for the release of new games for November...as one can guess no Civ is present for the near future. This morning, I posted on the general forum of Infogrames UK a shout for a fast release.
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Good work, shinoui! 
If you have those messages saved, cold you please
send them to me so that I could add them to the Library?
I haven't received any replies at at all. Not even confirmation
messages.
The message you received from IG France is actually
amusing. Refering to the release schedule, even if the
they no that it wouldn't answer your question/question.
Have a look at the new BTC website. You can find some
hints there.
Have you pre-ordered/ordered a copy of BTE/LE?
If yes, from what webshop?
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I planned to buy it in Finland where I shall travel next May....but it's a long time to wait for...
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Is that true? 
If yes, the standard Civ III will be released here 16.11,
but one local retailer (Triosoft) has already mentioned
it in an PC magazine ad. The price was 290 FIM (48,77 €).
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November 3, 2001, 13:03
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It shipped!
My LE pre-order, placed on October 2, has finally come good:
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Greetings from Amazon.com.
We thought you'd like to know that we shipped your items today,
and that this completes your order.
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The following items were included in this shipment:
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Qty Item Price Shipped Subtotal
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1 Civilization 3 Limited Edition $59.99 1 $59.99
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This shipment was sent to:
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LONDON
United Kingdom
via UPS International (averages 2-4 days).
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Hurrah! Keep up the fight guys, it CAN happen!
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November 3, 2001, 13:18
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Originally posted by amjayee
Hmm, I have received a notice from Amazon that my LE has been shipped on November 1st, and should arrive between November 8th-15th; I'm in Finland too, so perhaps also you will be receiving it, Rasbelin?
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I have also chosen the expedited shipment,
and my original arrival dates were the same as yours.
But the dates are now 12.-19.11, and they have been
changed every day. So it doesn't look promising. 
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I ordered and pre-paid the LE a month ago, way before the ban, so perhaps that is the reason?
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I have pre-ordered on 14th October and they have
received my SWIFT cheque on 72.97$. But they
haven't done anything for it. So it's likely that the
ban is a reality, and not pure imagination.
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November 3, 2001, 13:23
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Originally posted by Corpr8WariorGod
Infogrames has not only made a bad commercial decision, but risks an international public relations disaster.
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Especially by not replying to our e-mails,
or then by hiding the real answer.
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November 3, 2001, 13:27
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Originally posted by LarryLard
Hurrah! Keep up the fight guys, it CAN happen!
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But your case doesn't solve the whole case, sorry.
So it means that the campaign must go on.
LarryLard, please don't abandon us, even if
you would receive your LE. We really need
all the help we can get.
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November 3, 2001, 13:33
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BTC's official website is open for traffic!
The new and official website of the Bisquit Tin Coalition
has now been online for 3 hours time.
The official URLs are...
www.bisquit-tin-coalition.cjb.net
www.the-bisquit-tin-coalition.cjb.net
www.the-btc.cjb.net
http://we-want-civ3-bte.cjb.net
These sections can be found for the moment:
Campaign information
BTC Newsroom
The BTC discussion
Library
Activists and volunteers
And these are coming up soon:
Promote BTC
www.shortcuts
The latest headlines
The launch of the BTC's website
BTC spy on Infogrames UK Forums
New discussion thread on Civ Fanatic's Center Forums
The latest LE news can be found at BTC's website's newsroom.
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November 3, 2001, 15:31
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Coming up tomorrow!
- www.shortcut section will be uploaded
Coming up next week!
- I' going to e-mail Infogrames sales department
once again, because they have been so helpful.
- Firaxis and Amazon.com will also receive iquiries on Monday.
- Regular CFC Forums postings by me.
- Release of a manifesto. 
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November 3, 2001, 16:55
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Rasbelin I support you in this campaing against the infamy of Infogrames and I let you know that since today tons of e-mail from Chilean Civs Fanatics will arrive to Amazon and Infogrames sales department.
Let's all keep fighting!!!
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November 3, 2001, 18:24
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I'm in, Rasbelin. *adds signature* I took the one with not so much emotion, but rationality.
Though I think I'll personally stick with the standard edition. BTW, in verkkokauppa.com it's 236 FIM (around 40 €) plus a 19 FIM (over 3 €) postal charge if sent to your home town's postal office. To my standards, that's cheap.
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November 4, 2001, 05:59
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I have just recently found these postings
under an another thread in this same group:
Posted by SITS:
It's amazing. I send Amazon a nasty email with tales of woe about my fictional grandsons birthday being ruined because they haven't sent out the LE order on time and 2 hours later it is sent! Even though I said I wanted to change it to the cheaper delivery option as poor Timmy's, the grandson, birthday has already passed
Here between Nov 6-8
Bastards!
And a later reply from SITS:
My complaint to Amazon has been responded to with an offer of a $10 voucher which I'm going to reject as I want the full cost of the Express Deliverly that I was unable to change.
Bastards!
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November 4, 2001, 06:34
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Originally posted by Chilean President
Rasbelin I support you in this campaing against the infamy of Infogrames and I let you know that since today tons of e-mail from Chilean Civs Fanatics will arrive to Amazon and Infogrames sales department.
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Good to see such "devoted" action.
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Let's all keep fighting!!!
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Let's continue the campaign! Viva BTC! 
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November 4, 2001, 06:45
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Originally posted by kassiopeia
I took the one with not so much emotion, but rationality.
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It doesn't matter so much wich signature you use
(of course the message of it might catch different persons,
but it's more important that it's at least a pro-LE sig)
but the main point is that you have at least started
to use a BTC sig.
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To my standards, that's cheap.
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I agree with you. I almost chipped when I saw that
price earlier this week.
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November 4, 2001, 06:47
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This e-mail has just been sent to Amazon.com's
customer service. It will soon be added to the BTC Library.
Hi!
I have pre-ordered my Civ III Lmited Edition on 14th October, and the game was released for sale on 31st October. The order should have already been shipped. Not to mention that you have already received my payment (your CS sent earlier this week an e-mail confirming that my SWIFT cheque had been received). But are you still holding on with my shipment? I have paid for expedited shipment a higher charge, so that I would receive my order faster. Does this mean that just because of that I have placed my order before Amazon.com changed the information on the Civ III Limited Edition's item page to "Currently, item can be shipped only within the US". So am I supposed to wait until one beautyful day you "might" deliever my order? According to one person's report (he has also pre-ordered the Civ III Limited Edition from your webshop), he has received a 10$ voucher from you as a compensation for having to wait for his order. Because I have also pre-ordered and paid my game, I also demand a voucher from Amazon.com as a compensation for all my sufferings; in time and money. Further more I also suggest that Amazon.com would give every customer that has pre-ordered a copy of Civ III Limited Edition from you, before you set the current limitation on shipments of the item in question, to customers outside the US, should be given a voucher as compensation for your foolish treatment of customers. I remind you that this could be a visible hit on your public image to foreign customers.
Giving away some vouchers is a small loss compared to a loss of tens or hundreds of customers. But it's your choice...
Regards,
Rasmus Anderssén, a fed up customer who wants fair treatment from Amazon.com
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November 4, 2001, 06:56
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The BTC website has now been updated!
Newsroom update and the Promote BTC section
has been uploaded.
One glimt of the new PR banners:
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November 4, 2001, 12:17
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Originally posted by Rasbelin
This e-mail has just been sent to Amazon.com's
customer service. It will soon be added to the BTC Library.
Hi!
I have pre-ordered my Civ III Lmited Edition on 14th October, and the game was released for sale on 31st October. The order should have already been shipped. Not to mention that you have already received my payment (your CS sent earlier this week an e-mail confirming that my SWIFT cheque had been received). But are you still holding on with my shipment? I have paid for expedited shipment a higher charge, so that I would receive my order faster. Does this mean that just because of that I have placed my order before Amazon.com changed the information on the Civ III Limited Edition's item page to "Currently, item can be shipped only within the US". So am I supposed to wait until one beautyful day you "might" deliever my order? According to one person's report (he has also pre-ordered the Civ III Limited Edition from your webshop), he has received a 10$ voucher from you as a compensation for having to wait for his order. Because I have also pre-ordered and paid my game, I also demand a voucher from Amazon.com as a compensation for all my sufferings; in time and money. Further more I also suggest that Amazon.com would give every customer that has pre-ordered a copy of Civ III Limited Edition from you, before you set the current limitation on shipments of the item in question, to customers outside the US, should be given a voucher as compensation for your foolish treatment of customers. I remind you that this could be a visible hit on your public image to foreign customers.
Giving away some vouchers is a small loss compared to a loss of tens or hundreds of customers. But it's your choice...
Regards,
Rasmus Anderssén, a fed up customer who wants fair treatment from Amazon.com
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I don't mind you quoting me and I wish you luck just don't let on that my 'grandson' is fictional!
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November 5, 2001, 02:37
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I know that Timmy is just a fake case,
but I just used it for boosting my message.
And it worked! See BTC newsroom for more
details.
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November 5, 2001, 02:52
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The latest headlines @ BTC newsroom
Amazon.com promises investigation
Bribery? Rasbelin gains free shipment from Amazon.com
Chips & Bits: LE shipments in November?
Firaxis inquiry from shinoui
Promotional material published
Rasbelin's next week's BTC agenda
For more on this stories, and the latest PR banners,
surf to the BTC website!
Official re-direction URLs...
http://www.the-bisquit-tin-coalition.cjb.net
http://www.bisquit-tin-coalition.cjb.net
http://www.the-btc.cjb.net
http://want-civ3-bte.cjb.net
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November 5, 2001, 03:09
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Cute banners?
These, and other promotional BTC banners
are available on the BTC's website.
Check out the "Promote BTC" page!
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November 5, 2001, 13:55
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Important notification!
Please visit this thread for more details:
Amazon.com cancels Rasbelin's order!
I really suggest you to do that.
Unofficial news update
A Swedish BTC supporter is currently
(at least hopefully) investigating the
Civ III case, and I suppose I'm also going to
do something for that. Until further I won't
give any information (yes, I know something),
because I must have it confirmed.
So stay tuned to the ACS Civ III news section and
the BTC's newsroom. As soon as I get any
evidence, there will a detailed report.
But I can reveal something: I have received
an e-mail on the LE shipments, but I still
have to obtain more information.
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November 5, 2001, 19:46
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Just an update. I received my copy of the LE today (which apart from the tin is very disappointing) Still have had no word yet about further compensation...
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November 6, 2001, 02:31
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SITS, they (Amazon.com) offered about 4$ in compensation
for my financial losses that were about 20$. So they really
doesn't seem to give value to their customers.
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November 6, 2001, 02:37
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The latest headlines @ BTC newsroom
New BTC investigation has been launched
Amazon.com cancels LE shipment to Rasbelin
New Amazon.com boycott has been announced
Recommendations for Amazon.com LE customers
Amazon.com promises investigation
Bribery? Rasbelin gains free shipment from Amazon.com
Chips & Bits: LE shipments in November?
For more on these headlines, surf to good old
http://www.the-bisquit-tin-coalition.cjb.net or any
of the other re-direction URLs.
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November 6, 2001, 05:34
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All this effort over a cookie-tin Rasbelin? You're an idiot. 
Why don't you just ask one of us nice yanks to send you a copy? Or is it the principle of the matter? God forbid Infogames deprive you of your cookie tin, put babies on spikes, and urinate on the Alamo! Fight the power!
Well, fight the power that's depriving you of some scrap metal. Rock on, jaghoff ...
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November 6, 2001, 10:17
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Originally posted by The Templar
All this effort over a cookie-tin Rasbelin?
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Yes, but apparently you haven't read the
basics and goals of the BTC on the official website.
Then I could say that you're on an intellectual
level of a seven year old child. 
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Why don't you just ask one of us nice yanks to send you a copy?
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So are you ready to send me a BTE for free?!?
If so, please send one, or perhaps even two.
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