Cossacks Better Than Civ3!!

[Jerry_Garcia]

civ 3 is GARBAGE until they have multi-player or scenario editor that's worth anything. until then, COSSACKS RULE!!!!!! (AMERICAN CONQUEST will beat the pants off of civ3 too!!!!)

[Sabre2th]

[Earthling7]

Originally posted by Sabre2th

Hey, this dude (dudine) registered on Ape today! Talk about a first impression!

[Eli]

Hey. You cant just use my avatar without a written permision. I'll sue you.

[BeBro]

Originally posted by Jerry_Garcia
civ 3 is GARBAGE until they have multi-player or scenario editor that's worth anything. until then, COSSACKS RULE!!!!!! (AMERICAN CONQUEST will beat the pants off of civ3 too!!!!)

DL!

BTW, Cossacks is (indeed great but) REALTIME, not TURNBASED - you know this apples&oranges thingy?

[Jerry_Garcia]

can't remember with civ2 but SMAC did have RTS. civ2 may have if you knew where to alter files. in any case, i don't think this is an apples and oranage comparison but a green apple-red apple comparison. close enough in my book.

[Earthling7]

Originally posted by Jerry_Garcia
can't remember with civ2 but SMAC did have RTS. civ2 may have if you knew where to alter files. in any case, i don't think this is an apples and oranage comparison but a green apple-red apple comparison. close enough in my book.

Yeah, you're right. I actually tried Red Alert as turn based. It was great! Didn't work with RA2 though...

[Kuciwalker]

You can make Red Alert 1 turn-based?! Please, tell me how! Sounds awesome!

[BeBro]

double post ... damn server too busy messages...

[BeBro]

Originally posted by Jerry_Garcia
can't remember with civ2 but SMAC did have RTS. civ2 may have if you knew where to alter files. in any case, i don't think this is an apples and oranage comparison but a green apple-red apple comparison. close enough in my book.

All you could have in Civ2 with some tricks was simultaneous unit movement during MP games, never in SP games with AI opponents so please don´t tell me that is nearly the same as RTS...

[Deathray]

Cossacks is great, but Cossacks is RTS and Civilization 3 is TBS, so you shouldn't be comparing them, you should just buy them both. Don't know what American Conquest is, but it sounds crap, and clearly isn't based on any real events. Of course, I may have got the wrong end of the stick, if its a game about conquering, looting and pillaging America then it'll be great.

[BeBro]

Isn´t there a sequel or an expansion for Cossacks planned which plays in America? Not sure about that...

[Kyle]

Now, if you would've said Europa Universalis II was better, that would be believable...

[SerapisIV]

Originally posted by Jerry_Garcia
can't remember with civ2 but SMAC did have RTS. civ2 may have if you knew where to alter files. in any case, i don't think this is an apples and oranage comparison but a green apple-red apple comparison. close enough in my book.

Huh? SMAC as an RTS? Did I miss something over the past few years or are you a dumb as you sound. Probably just stupid.

[ndnls]

Civ as a RTS? Civ has always been, and always will be TBS,
no matter what sort of hacks or wrinkles you can put in the
engine; that's simply the basic structure of civ.

What is 'American Conquest' anyway? Historical RTS based on
US colonial expansion?

[dainbramaged13]

i wanna play redalert as a tbs! show me the money!

anyway, only combo of TBS and RTS (and a great one, btw) is shogun: Total war. If you hate civ3, buy the gold edition of that instead, because TBS obviously isn't your thing if you hate civ3!

[Serial]

HOW THE HELL CAN U COMPARE THE 2.

Its like saying Baking is much better than going on holiday!. Piss head.

[Jerry_Garcia]

american conquest= game just like cossacks but on american continent and better gameplay. AC and the new add-on for cossacks will make one of the best games out there better.


for those who called me 'stupid' by saying civ is not a RTS, if you would play multiplayer instead of cowering against a wimpy,easy to beat AI , you would have learned you can adjust SMAC and civ2 to RTS while playing online.

heres a good fansite:http://www.cossacks.4players.de/englishversion/

and for those that think cossacks is another AOE series is slightly off. again, cossacks tears those games apart (and i've been long fanatics of all civ,aoe,etc strategy games).

[ndnls]

To say that Civ MP is like an RTS is warping the analogy beyond all
recognition.

The units may move simultaneously, but it's only one phase of a
turn. Build, terraform; all are distinct phases of a single turn. In a
"true" RTS, all of your commands are carried out as you give them,
build queues, unit attacks, and so on.

What RTS games lack is the depth that TBS has. Research and
development is restricted to a few techs to boost unit power,
industry is merely a collection of buildings, economics is
non-existent, and the only way to win is by tank-rushing your
opponent to death. RTS games, even AoE and the upcoming
"Empire Earth" only focus on combat and specific points in history.
Civ aims to encompass the sweep of human existance. Try doing
that in real time.

If you hate civ, fine. There are plenty of other games for you like
Battlezone, Uprising, RA, C@C, Warcraft, etc. Just don't try to pull
the old straw man argument to put down somthing that you
disagree with.

[Victor Galis]

Heretic! Burn him at the stake!

[Jerry_Garcia]

first, i've been a long time civ player and will continue to do so. however, have you played both? were you aware that there are over 300 tech advances in cossacks? over 8000 unit possibilities? right now the only thing cossacks lack is the diplomacy but they are working on that. i will admit i don't see how u can play ww2 scenarios (only civ will be able to accomplish this), but as far as playing games that represent prior to flight, cossacks is the almighty. someday, a mix of both will make the ultimate strategy game.