Favorite Civilizations

dexters · November 11, 2001, 02:42

For whatever reason, personal or gameplay, we all have one civilization we feel particularly attached to.

This is a poll to figure out which Civ, posters like the most

DaddyCool · November 11, 2001, 02:50

It's always been the Romans!

jones · November 11, 2001, 02:55

Carthage

DaddyCool · November 11, 2001, 03:04

Hey jones...let's get punic...best outta three?

jones · November 11, 2001, 03:20

It's better to burn out than to fade away :P :P

DaddyCool · November 11, 2001, 03:24

touche!

Ecthy · November 11, 2001, 04:53

my own

dexters · November 11, 2001, 20:13

bump

General Ludd · November 11, 2001, 20:34

A Tie between Chinese and German. I voted for China.

YefeiPi · November 11, 2001, 20:44

There is not too much different between the civs. However, I love kicking other civ's asses with my Chinese riders. So I would go for China.

Wolfshanze · November 11, 2001, 20:53

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Originally posted by YefeiPi
There is not too much different between the civs. However, I love kicking other civ's asses with my Chinese riders. So I would go for China.

I'll take German Panzers over Chinese Riders anyday!!!

The Poles once tried something like that with horseback riders too!

ElitePersian · November 11, 2001, 21:46

From an objective point of view, I believe that the Persians are the best civ to play with, here's why:

1) Their special unit the Immortal (4/2/1), is attainable EXTREMELY early in the game, it requires Ironworking, which you can research very quickly. It is the earliest unit in the game to have 4 attack. Iroquois' Mounted Warrior is the most effective, but their civ-specific qualities arent the greatest.

2) Persians are industrious (probably the best quality), and scientific (3rd best in my opinion).

And that's why I believe they are the best civ in the game.
Argue this point if you want.

yeesh · November 11, 2001, 23:30

Dude. Egyptians. Industrious and religious. Do you realize that with religious a cathedral costs less than a library or a marketplace? Talk about culture... And industrious is tasty for us weirdos who like to irrigate/mine/railroad every single tile.

David Floyd · November 11, 2001, 23:38

Nah, Greeks - Commercial + Scientific.

Sir Jimbob · November 12, 2001, 00:42

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Originally posted by jones
Carthage

agreed

Libertarian · November 12, 2001, 01:40

The Libertarians (commercial and industrial)

dexters · November 12, 2001, 15:23

keep this thread alive!

Jvstin · November 12, 2001, 15:25

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Originally posted by jones
Carthage

Carthage was always one of my favorites in Civ II...and I don't think it would be too hard to change one of the Civilizations to it (except for things like the leader graphic) to Carthage, either.

Maybe Religious and Commercial? (descendants of the Phoenicians, the original mercantile power long before the Greeks knew how to spell trireme)

...and perhaps sharing the War Elephant special unit with the Indians?

Gaius Marius · November 12, 2001, 16:39

Jones - Romans all the way..

And, btw, the King is gone, but not forgotten.

dexters · November 12, 2001, 18:14

Carthage

hehe...

mharmless · November 12, 2001, 18:24

Rome forever!

Millitaristic + Comercial, the perfect combo to carve out a huge empire and hold onto it for the entire game.

I eat all religious and scientific civs for lunch. In fact, it seems that every game begins with a side order of greace...

DaddyCool · November 12, 2001, 18:49

Yeah! Good to see Rome making a strong rally...I thought all was lost the first day of this poll....

Sniffer · November 12, 2001, 19:01

French,

For the early game worker speed and the late game bonus to commerce and industry. Getting around 150 production from a single city is too nice.

Bereta_Eder · November 12, 2001, 19:02

GREECE!

And I haven't even played the game yet

Honour_Shogun · November 12, 2001, 19:05

I agree, French rule. Sure, their civ specific unit ain't the best, but having a city that loses a little less to corruption(the commercial aspect), gets more commerce from squares(commerce also), gets that added shield bonus (industrious) and can mine, irrigate and railroad every tile from here to Istanbul is not bad, IMHO.

Course, I also like the Persians. Building cheap libraries, universities, etc is very nice. Especially if you are going for a technollogically advanced civ.

mharmless · November 12, 2001, 19:14

Bah, industrious is over rated. You get what?
+1 extra production in a city of size 7-12
+2 in a city of 13+
x2 worker rate

So with a 20 city empire, and pretending that you won't lose most of those extra sheilds to corruption anyway, you get the equivilent of one extra city.

A millitant civ on the other hand doesn't need workers who are twice as fast, because his empire is full of the displaced souls from empires long dead. Slavery is alive and well in Rome my friends, even launching occasional raids on overseas empires just to burn their citys down and bring home some more slave labor.

Further, thanks to the 4-5 great leaders acheived in each game I am getting 3-4 wonders of the world built instantly and in any city I desire. The sheilds saved on wonders is stagering, and in my opinion easily blows away the largely wasted extra production from industrious.

General Ludd · November 12, 2001, 19:31

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Originally posted by mharmless
Bah, industrious is over rated. You get what?
+1 extra production in a city of size 7-12
+2 in a city of 13+
x2 worker rate

The worker rate is what makes industrious so awesome.

cassembler · November 12, 2001, 19:37

Greeks...

1/3 hoplite, available turn 1, no iron required, easy to fend off the "other, less significant" civilizations, great for choke points and for claiming resources until you can build cities there. They won't trigger a golden age until another civ attacks you, so the timing can be fantastic...

Commercial (lower corruption, marketplaces, bank costs)
Scientific (up to 4 free techs, lower library, university, etc. costs)

I would bet that the Greeks, if set up properly, can hold their own against ANY empire at ANY level through the rest of the game...

The only problem is that they tend to have a slow early offensive...

mharmless · November 12, 2001, 19:55

Romans

Start adjecent to the greeks, a civ begging to be steamrollered.

3/3/1 legions, available less than 64 turns into the game. Same defensive ability of the so-called great hoplites, and three times the offensive ability.

Cheap barracks and walls, even conqured cities can be spitting out veteran units in no time at all.

So greeks get cheap libraries and universities do they? Good luck staying alive long enough to get universities while you have a competent roman player actively trying to crush you.

-MHarmless, impatiently awaiting CIV3MGE

Bereta_Eder · November 12, 2001, 20:02

BAH!