Patch Update 12/7/01

Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS · December 7, 2001, 19:53

Well, there is a big compatability issue with the new version and Win2k/XP machines. If you have these OS, don't apply the patch. We're working on a solution, but if it is a significant change, it will need to be resubmitted to testing.

Thanks for your patience.

Jeff

BeBro · December 7, 2001, 20:06

I wonder what exactly the problem is - it runs (currently) fine

on my machine under win2k (hope this doesn´t change)....

Zealot · December 7, 2001, 20:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS
Well, there is a big compatability issue with the new version and Win2k/XP machines. If you have these OS, don't apply the patch. We're working on a solution, but if it is a significant change, it will need to be resubmitted to testing.

Thanks for your patience.

Jeff

Now he tells me!

And for those who already patched the game on win 2k, what should they do? Reinstall or wait?

BeBro · December 7, 2001, 20:12

Initially they should stop whining...

Bambusk · December 7, 2001, 20:12

I've been playing for 3 hours on my win2k machine and it works just fine (version 1.16f). I'm problaly just a lucky one

Everything seems to work. The speed of the game is now superb - fast scrolling and the new pef are great.

Thanx for working on this GREAT game.

Ups - just one thing has dissapeared:
The rifle sound is missing when the Calvary attacks

Jaybe · December 7, 2001, 20:21

Oops -- too late! Already continuing a saved game with 1.16f.

HP pavilion 7935, 384MB, Windows XP as pre-installed (plus the bleepin security updates that 'automatically' are done).

I had made a couple of adjustments in the editor (Barbarian combat advantage) and then went on with the game. The game quit* on me before I had completed a turn, but I started up again and everything has been hunky dorey so far.

*re 'quit': Sorry, Macintosh parlance. Don't know yet how it's termed in Windozian language.

JB

LordGreyhawk · December 7, 2001, 20:22

I *did* patch on Win2k Pro
this afternoon.

I noticed it started not seeing
the civ II cdrom in the DVD-ROM
drive , so I moved it to the CDRW drive. This sounds like an OS issue.

The BUG which I want to ask about:

I loaded my old game and I started diplomacy.

I put up Invention to the Annoyed Zulus
and asked what they would give:

Incense
World Map
13 Gold per Turn
20 Gold

My advisor said they would never go
for the deal - which the Zulus proposed!

I offered this trade and they did
refuse it.

Is this a Win2k bug ? It looks much more like a universal bug that the
patch (1.16f) introduced.

I submitted this to the Firaxis email tech support web page already.....

I could send someone my game file
to verify.....

High Points : The new Nvidia drivers
this week helped a little but this
patch made the map scrolling *instantanous*. Good Job!

7EA · December 7, 2001, 20:33

Quote:

Originally posted by LordGreyhawk
I put up Invention to the Annoyed Zulus
and asked what they would give:

Incense
World Map
13 Gold per Turn
20 Gold

My advisor said they would never go
for the deal - which the Zulus proposed!

I offered this trade and they did
refuse it.

Something like that happened to me too, but in my case they accepted

Smash · December 7, 2001, 20:37

how could the f key crash have gotten by testers?

The sys req on the box say>95/98/Me/2000/XP.Are the testers all using the same machine?...I really think you need to look at these testers.

sophist · December 7, 2001, 20:43

[duplicate]

sophist · December 7, 2001, 20:44

Do you need information on where the bug is occurring? I am experiencing it (assuming it's the one where it cannot find the CD). My information:

MSI K7T Pro Turbo motherboard (Via KT133)
Athlon 900 (Thunderbird, 100 MHz DDR FSB)
512 MB PC133 SDRAM
Plextor 12/10/32A cd-rw
some generic cd-rom drive
Creative's GeForce2 GTS
Windows 2000 SP2 with all updates installed
DirectX 8.1a (what came with the civ3 CD)
Soundblaster Live! Value

Auto-run is enabled

Windows/Apps drive: C:
Data Drive 1: E:
Data Drive 2: G: (hey, I have a lot of.... "data." Thank you Audiogalaxy)
CD-ROM: H:
CD-RW: I:

Need anything else? Assuming you needed this in the first place.

Oh, wait... setting my CD-ROM drive to be D: (the first gap) makes it work.

For anyone who has win2k (dunno about XP home), you can easily change the drive letter. Right-Click on "My Computer" and select "Manage." Choose "Disk Management" from the tree on the left. On the right side, right-click your CD-ROM drive and select "change drive letter and path." Then click the Edit button on the dialog that appears. In the next dialog change your drive to be the first available one. It might have to be the first available one AFTER your windows drive; I'm just guessing. You might also be able to ADD a new drive name so that your CD-ROM drive is associated with two different drive names at the same time, but I haven't tried that (in case you don't want to screw things up that depend on the CD-ROM drive being where it is now).

I am trying to attach screenshots.

sophist · December 7, 2001, 20:46

Screenshots of relevant win2k screens in the attached zip; too big to attach inline

LordGreyhawk · December 7, 2001, 20:47

I reloaded again, and following
bug fixing advice seen elsewhere
in the patch discussions, I waited
until the next turn to try the
diplomacy - and it worked this time.

So what you need is a FAQ entry
for the patch :

If you load a saved game, go the
next turn ASAP to avoid initial bugs.

Of course your CD drive issue still
exists...

Dravin · December 7, 2001, 20:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Jaybe
*re 'quit': Sorry, Macintosh parlance. Don't know yet how it's termed in Windozian language.
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JB

The term you are looking for my friend is crash. The game crashed on you.

Bill3000 · December 7, 2001, 20:56

For some reason the patch web page won't open.

Jer8m8 · December 7, 2001, 21:19

Quote:

Originally posted by LordGreyhawk
II put up Invention to the Annoyed Zulus
and asked what they would give:

Incense
World Map
13 Gold per Turn
20 Gold

My advisor said they would never go
for the deal - which the Zulus proposed!

I offered this trade and they did
refuse it.

I had a similar problem. Just re ask for that deal, and DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING. Even if you change it back, it won't work

Davebo · December 7, 2001, 21:23

If I have this right - anyone familiar with editing the registry should be able to work around this.

Run regedit32 - browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Infogrames Interactive

In there, there's a new entry as shown below...

The entry for "Civilization III v1.16f" seems to be missing all the info that's contained in the "Civilization III" key, as shown below...

Simply create those entries in the "Civilization III v1.16f" key - worked for me.

Maybe I'm wrong on this, and Jeffrey (FIRAXIS) is talking about a different glitch, but this fixed the NO CD problem for me.

Hope this helps someone!

Falconius · December 7, 2001, 21:23

Using Win98, got this problem:

Got to 2950 BC and my warrior takes a barbarian village. Barbarians spring up. My warrior still waits for orders.

But guess what? It won't move! Game keeps telling me it has already moved. Tried to activate other units and get the same "already moved" message. Yet the unit still waits for orders. I can't advance to the next turn! Hit Enter, Spacebar, and all sorts of other keyboard combinations.

Lefty Scaevola · December 7, 2001, 21:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Falconius
Got to 2950 BC and my warrior takes a barbarian village. Barbarians spring up. My warrior still waits for orders.
Yet the unit still waits for orders. I can't advance to the next turn! Hit Enter, Spacebar, and all sorts of other keyboard combinations.

ctrl+n was the key combo in civ2 for end turn, try it.

sophist · December 7, 2001, 21:35

Good call on that, davebo. Can you post that here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=37291

Davebo · December 7, 2001, 21:59

It's crashing for me as well using the function keys, in WinXP Pro...

AppName: civilization3.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: opengl32.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.0 Offset: 0002ebfc

Oh well - bummer...

Abit BE6-2
P3 1GHz
512Mb PC166
GeForce GTS using 23.11's
SB-Live
Promise Ultra100
IBM 40GB ATA100
WD 18GB ATA66
Pioneer 16x DVD
Panasonic 8x burner

Rhuarc · December 7, 2001, 22:10

I don't know what the problem seems to be. I am using WinXP Pro, and I applied the patch, and mine is running just fine. It found the cd perfectly and everything. I don't know, but maybe there is something different on the home version of XP or in Win2K? Anybody haveany ideas?

Drefsab · December 7, 2001, 22:13

This is a real shame. Especially since I just installed Win XP Pro last night.

Damn you Firaxis

Alex 14 · December 7, 2001, 22:13

I'm downloading the patch now, luckly I have a duel setup so I don't have to rund WinXP.

Thanks Mark, for seting up the mirrored version on Apolyton, Firaxis server is just so slow, even on cable.

Doti · December 7, 2001, 22:20

I have windows 2000, sp2 and it does not run with the new patch. I run as a power user and NOT as administrator. Under administrator I get the no cd message. Under the power user I get a "please run as administrator" message. I hope the fix to the patch will allow me to run as any user level. And I gotta ask, who tested the patch?

(and actually, I had to upgrade my default account to power user, because I ran it under normal user priveleges, and they did not have access to write in the program file directory). Save games and high scores files and all that should be stored in the users profile directory, not under program files).

Swissy · December 7, 2001, 22:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS We're working on a solution, but if it is a significant change, it will need to be resubmitted to testing.

Hopefully you will not use the same testing facility that did not catch the compatibility problem the first time.

TechWins · December 7, 2001, 22:21

Davebo, this is pertaining to the NoCD problem. I can't seem to find the file name for 'Unistall_Path' nor 'Install_Path'. Could you provide the directories for those two files for me, please?

cityhelper · December 7, 2001, 22:26

Some bugs with patch:
1) When I go over a goody hut the guy automatically moves his second move (I can't control it).
2) When you get both the Lighthouse and Magellan's Expedition and the lighthouse expires, Magellan's movement bonus doesn't work anymore (I got Magellan's BEFORE the lighthouse expired).
3) The war and peace lines under the diplomatic screen don't appear all the time.

I have XP with AMD 1.4 Gig proc. and 512 MB ram.

Thanks,

cityhelper

Venger · December 7, 2001, 22:29

Bug city - it is fairly reproducable.

Windows 2000
P3-850 (2 CPUs)

Playing a saved game (from original version).

It seems if I click in the bottom right window (where the unit info and stuff is) I get a Civ3 error and dump. Happens every time.

I've never had a lockup in Civ3 prior.

Venger

Alex 14 · December 7, 2001, 22:33

The patch no longer shows the AI moves, or you worker moves, this is a bit uninformative but certainly cuts the time you have to wait for your next turn. Usually in the modern era it's about 15-20 seconds now. The new features in the editor are nice, but there isn't any majore changes, the patch looks alright so far.