I didnt try Civ3 because I got burnt out with playing civ2/CTP2/AC
I just couldnt see how Civ3 could be different enough to further interest me.
EU2 will hold me because it makes EU1 look like a demo!
EU3 will have to be different though - something like the Roman Empire or the Crusades.
By the time you get it in Oz it will be a lot more playable than the "too early release" version in NA.
Patch No2 to the NA version should arrive back from Strategy First next week. It makes a very big difference.............