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View Poll Results: Do you think that it's ethical, overall, to conduct human cloning research?
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December 10, 2001, 15:21
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Opinions on the Ethics of Human Cloning
I'm doing this school project on the ethics of human cloning, and i'm looking for ideas.
please vote in the polls and post whatever you feel about the ethics of cloning. Thanks!
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December 10, 2001, 15:46
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Of course it is ethical - it will help a lot of people get cured from truly terrible diseases.
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December 10, 2001, 15:50
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Why not? As of now, however, it is wrong to actually clone a human embryo and bring it to maturity, because current methods will cause the resulting human being to have numerous medical problems. It's like asking if radiation-induced illness research is okay; it's fine as long as you do it responsibly and don't cause damage to human beings.
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December 10, 2001, 16:33
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Of course it is.
Obviously, there is still some research to be done before we actually try primates to full term.
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December 10, 2001, 18:12
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Ethics aside, I don't think we should be doing it. I don't think it's right, that's all.
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December 10, 2001, 18:30
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Huh? You don't think it's right, but not because of ethics? Should cloning research be stopped because it's against your personal taste? 
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December 10, 2001, 19:00
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Originally posted by Dr.Oogkloot
Huh? You don't think it's right, but not because of ethics? Should cloning research be stopped because it's against your personal taste?
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 I do believe this poll is asking for peoples opinion, and that is exactly what he gave. No reason to jump up his butt about it.
But, I do agree with orange, There are just so many ways these technologies can go wrong / be abused. Though it's partly for ethics, aswell.
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December 10, 2001, 19:09
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Personally, I'm all for anything with science.
Anyways, no matter what you are going to say, it will happen anyways.
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December 10, 2001, 19:36
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Pro. I see great potential from the medical spin-offs from the application of this technique, some beyond the scope of the layman in this field of research.
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December 10, 2001, 19:39
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With cloning, we can finally eliminate the need for oh-so-sinful sex. 
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December 10, 2001, 19:44
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Originally posted by technophile
With cloning, we can finally eliminate the need for oh-so-sinful sex.
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December 10, 2001, 21:45
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Nazi's practiced horrible experiments in the name of science.
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December 10, 2001, 22:07
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But November- they gave the world much good through some of their research!
I fully support cloning for body parts of people- this way we may be able to extend human life about to 120 years!
Extremely useful!
Good work, fully ethical- and what ARE ethics?
Who really cares about them- if it is for the good of all then let them do it.
People who are going to abort their babies should be forced to gift them to science! Get rid of an evil with a good!
They would die anyway!
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December 10, 2001, 22:10
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Against. This is human life we are dealing with here. Current cloning techniques have not been sufficently perfected to make the procedure safe.
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December 10, 2001, 22:13
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Originally posted by Osweld
I do believe this poll is asking for peoples opinion, and that is exactly what he gave. No reason to jump up his butt about it.
But, I do agree with orange, There are just so many ways these technologies can go wrong / be abused. Though it's partly for ethics, aswell.
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Yes. I'm not religious so it isn't about God or anything. To me, it's about people not understanding that they are supposed to die. People want to find the cure to every disease to improve the length of their lives. It's like we're trying to reach for eternity. I just don't like it...people are meant to live and die, and if you die from cancer or AIDS, that's just how it is. I've had relatives die from Cancer, quite a few...so please don't think I'm being heartless. I don't think I am. I'd rather celebrate death than grieve over it. It's a loss, but it's part of what being mortal is all about. You live, you die.
Also, I find it sickening the kinds of ways this technology could be abused. Organ farms and such, on an ethical note yes I do have a problem with that.
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December 10, 2001, 22:16
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Originally posted by technophile
With cloning, we can finally eliminate the need for oh-so-sinful sex.
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You're a complete moron... 
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December 10, 2001, 22:20
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Originally posted by DarkCloud
But November- they gave the world much good through some of their research!
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I hope you are being sarcastic.
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December 10, 2001, 22:23
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Strong Pro. All who are against are luddites.
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December 10, 2001, 22:30
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Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
You're a complete moron...
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Oh, so I suppose you can disprove my belief that sex is sinful?  
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December 10, 2001, 22:30
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November - DarkCloud believes that everyone must be respected. Even the Nazis.
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December 10, 2001, 22:38
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Originally posted by technophile
Oh, so I suppose you can disprove my belief that sex is sinful?
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Sex is a gift from Athena you fool!
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December 10, 2001, 22:41
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Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
Sex is a gift from Athena you fool!
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Ha! Try telling that to Aphrodite, with her lustful ways!
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December 10, 2001, 22:42
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We must clone humans so that we can put to rest the notion that there is a god.
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December 10, 2001, 22:45
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Originally posted by technophile
Ha! Try telling that to Aphrodite, with her lustful ways!
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December 10, 2001, 22:46
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Originally posted by Scipio Centaurus
We must clone humans so that we can put to rest the notion that there is a god.
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And exactly how does that prove that there is no God?
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December 10, 2001, 22:57
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Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
And exactly how does that prove that there is no God?
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> Humans clone humans.
> God claims to have created humans.
> Ergo humans are now equivalent to god.
> But god will accept no other god before him.
> There are now many qualifying to be god.
> Ergo none qualify.
> Therefore there is no god.
QED
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December 10, 2001, 23:09
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Originally posted by Scipio Centaurus
> Humans clone humans.
> God claims to have created humans.
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Could we clone humans without dirt? Nope. We wouldn't be here without dirt.
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> Ergo humans are now equivalent to god.
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How's that? We've been making humans for years...it's called sex.
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> But god will accept no other god before him.
> There are now many qualifying to be god.
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There have always been other gods.
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> Ergo none qualify.
> Therefore there is no god.
QED
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Welp, you sure proved it. You proved nothing.
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December 10, 2001, 23:12
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Ahhh ye of little faith...
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December 11, 2001, 18:28
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December 11, 2001, 18:34
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Ethics aside, I don't think we should be doing it. I don't think it's right, that's all.
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That sounds like it belongs in Stefu's Sporting Wisdom thread...
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