Damn you Moraelin !!!

Venger · December 20, 2001, 11:03

You made me spend more money!

Sure enough you start yacking up how good Colonization is, comparing it to Civ3 gameplay wise and so forth, and what do I just HAPPEN to see at Fry's as I'm walking through? Just guess...

Yep. Colonization. For under $5. I couldn't beleive it. I looked at it, and started to remember those strangely addicting music tunes, and I just HAD to buy it. I remember playing the Amiga version (or was it the DOS version) and wanted to relive a few moments of such a novel game...

Oh, and it works great on Windows 2000...

Thanks Moraelin, you big jerk! Please don't mention any other games, I'm going broke here...

Venger

Steve Clark · December 20, 2001, 11:17

I know some folks here have been bringing this game up but to this day, I still don't understand. IMHO, Colonization was a crappy, micromanagement-heavy game. A little later, Conquest of the New World came out and it was a far superior game than Colonization. (CNW is in my top 5 favorite strategy games of all time...best combat model ever for a TBS game.) Most of the reviewers gave CNW higher scores (CGW gave it 5 stars) but because Colonization had Sid's name on it, I guess folks think it must be a better game.

Since we got to say something about Civ3 to make it relevant in this forum, I'll just say that I look forward to playing a 'colonizing the New World' scenario using Civ3. But I'll wait patiently for however long that might take.

Zealot · December 20, 2001, 11:54

But Venger, Colonization is a great game! I even played it this year! What's wrong with it? I still find it very addicting and challenging!

Venger · December 20, 2001, 12:18

Steve - sounds like a good game - who published it? I thought Colonization had a perfect blend of ease, fun, and novelty. And great music.

Zealot - you misunderstand, I was being facetious - I really loved Colonization, I was being tongue in cheek...I'm glad he brought it up...

Venger

Zealot · December 20, 2001, 12:56

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Originally posted by Venger
Steve - sounds like a good game - who published it? I thought Colonization had a perfect blend of ease, fun, and novelty. And great music.

QuickSilver. The company which is developing MoO 3.

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Originally posted by Venger
Zealot - you misunderstand, I was being facetious - I really loved Colonization, I was being tongue in cheek...I'm glad he brought it up...

You just saved yourself from going down on my consideration...

Steve Clark · December 20, 2001, 13:01

Let's see if I can sneek this in under the radar....

http://www.interplay.com/conquest/frame.html

CNW Deluxe version is 4-5 years old but to this day, there has not been a better game focusing on the balance between exploration, managing colony buildings/resources and combat/conquest. As mentioned, with the exception of 1 or 2 games I can't think of, there had not been a better combat model for TBS games than what was designed CNW.

Deornwulf · December 20, 2001, 14:41

There was supposed to be a Conquest of the New World II. It has been kicked around on the future release lists of various companies for years. Would Quicksilver respond to a grass roots outcry to make the project a reality? I would also love to see a CNW Forum.

The combat model was simple but cool. Almost like playing chess. The AI seems to be more aggressive on faster machines than slower ones

. Anyhoo, the deluxe version of the game is definately worth a look. TheUnderdogs.org has information on where to get the game.

Moraelin · December 20, 2001, 14:50

Oh... Got worried for a moment there when I read the thread title

As for Steve Clark, guilty as charged. That game had tons of micro-management. Well, not THAT much, actually. I mean, it wasn't really any worse than assigning people to map squares in Civ 3. You only had 8 squares around the city, plus the buildings in it. If you think of those buildings as "squares", you really didn't have more of them than in Civ 3.

Dunno, I think I liked it for what it was, not for Sid's name on the box.

No arguments about CNW, though. That was a very good game, too. And the graphics definitely looked better than Colonization. (Well, not that graphics are that important, but it's a nice bonus.) And the combat engine definitely was better than the one in Colonization. Kind of missed the more detailed options from Colonization, though. But I guess that if you dislike micro-management, that probably counted as an improvement.

Think of it this way, though. Noone said it has to be an exclusive choice. I can like both Colonization AND CNW.

Xentropy · December 20, 2001, 17:24

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Originally posted by Steve Clark
I know some folks here have been bringing this game up but to this day, I still don't understand. IMHO, Colonization was a crappy, micromanagement-heavy game. A little later, Conquest of the New World came out and it was a far superior game than Colonization. (CNW is in my top 5 favorite strategy games of all time...best combat model ever for a TBS game.) Most of the reviewers gave CNW higher scores (CGW gave it 5 stars) but because Colonization had Sid's name on it, I guess folks think it must be a better game.

A gamer after my own heart. There's another thread out there I mentioned I found Colonization a micromanagy, dull, horrible game. I didn't even think to mention CNW since the topic was Sid/Brian games, but yes, CNW did the Colonization/Conquest of the New World topic RIGHT. Awesome game, thanks for reminding me :>

Chronus · December 20, 2001, 22:55

Venger - whatever happened to your CTP2 adventures? You seemed positive about it at first but I haven't seen anything from you about it since.

I wanted to purchase the game myself and almost did but the CTP2 forum board was so full of complaints that I was scared off.

Venger · December 24, 2001, 16:29

I've been extremely busy - I haven't been able to play CTP2, SMAC, or Col since buying them...should have some free time coming up though!

Venger