Second Reich PBEM? - Page 3

Scott F · February 7, 2002, 03:26

Three days. You act as if it was an eternity.

Soundwave · February 7, 2002, 04:59

El Awrence your turn!!

Hey Austrian Dog! Grrrr!

Dr. Nick · February 7, 2002, 17:27

Russian Black Sea Fleet Decimated!

Varna.- The Bulgarian fleet was cheered into port in Varna last week as it returned from battling the Russian Black Sea Fleet just off the coast of Romania.

Reports say that the Russian cruisers and two destroyers were sunk and a Russian battleship that remained badly damaged was torpedoed by a Bulgarian submarine as it attempted to withdraw from battle.

This blow to the Russian navy, dealt by the Bulgaria, is a blow to their pride that they may hardly recover from in the near future.

The ANZAC · February 7, 2002, 20:56

Yeah, I think we should email him. Also maybe, we should email people when it is their turn?

Soundwave · February 7, 2002, 21:35

You already asked this and i think Yes!!!

Soundwave · February 7, 2002, 21:47

The Italian Embassy recieving Hundreds of reports of Austrian Troop movements on the Border, Italian Favour Shifts in the Entente favour as Austrian Relentless threats...

Itlalian Troops move to French boreder ready to go to the Western Front.

MagyarCrusader · February 7, 2002, 22:13

hey! Back off, Poland's my *****!

The ANZAC · February 8, 2002, 22:37

All Quiet on the Western Front...

Grothgar · February 9, 2002, 12:27

Um i was just playing this because this PBEM has me intrested in it again. However after noticing the German Divison Units carving through the machine gun posts i did a bit of checking and the German Division unit is in the Partistan unit slot, and seeing as machine guns just happen to have an attack of 0 they get massacered, Im just pointing it out but hey you might want to change it. If not then i advise germany attack now, before they get too many actual units in the trenches because youll be able to carve through the machine guns, in fact which i did, paris fell in 3 turns.

Just thought i should point it out

MagyarCrusader · February 9, 2002, 15:20

I never noticed that... I guess the easiest fix would be to give machine guns attack 1.

Grothgar · February 9, 2002, 15:42

Well yeah but i thought i had to point it out

Anyway i did a map of this conflict. Obviously from me not playing in this game i cant be 100% sure about anything so ill post it as a JPEG form, and then a bmp, which someone can download and then update and hopefully post it as a gif file, which im unable to do,

Paul Hanson · February 9, 2002, 15:56

You and your maps, Gary.

I gave this scenario another go the other day, as the Allies. When is it actually possible to advance against Germany? I checked the events files, and in 1915 Germany was getting about 5 machine guns a turn, plus when their divisions were killed the were getting 65mm guns, which then became machine guns after the guns were killed, or something similar.

Also, I found that the best way of holding the German trenches is to knock all the units out of a particular stretch, and then pile a load of units into it, followed by a recon plane. Since the computer has no fighter units, they can't attack your troops! Doing this, I was able to hold all the German trenches from Antwerp to just south of Lille.

MagyarCrusader · February 10, 2002, 00:00

Nice map, but it's is wrong. Borders were a lot different back then compared to today. Poland should be split between Germany, Austria, and Russia (biggest chunk going to Germany). You have Voivodina, Transylvania and Ruthenia under Russian yoke, should be Austro-Hungarian. East Prussia should be German, not Russian. At least that's how it all is according to the start of the war. As far as I know, only 2 cities have switched hands. Lodz and Lemberg.

Grothgar · February 10, 2002, 10:39

hey lol, dont dis the map lol, i only posted it as a rough estimate, didnt you read the bit which said take it and redo it as the game requires lol

Paul Hanson · February 10, 2002, 14:16

Think you could fit any more "lol"s into that sentence, Gary?

Soundwave · February 10, 2002, 15:05

Whos go is it and when can it be mine?

The ANZAC · February 10, 2002, 16:03

I've gone, so now it's back to Scott

Scott F · February 11, 2002, 05:38

Sorry for the delay. Went home for the weekend and had no net access.

Dr. Nick · February 12, 2002, 00:31

All quiet on the Eastern Front...

Soundwave · February 12, 2002, 19:54

Italians call for War

Italians support Allied claims of Germany starting the war!

But the Italians shall stay Neutral for this War

MagyarCrusader · February 12, 2002, 20:48

Stop picking on me just because I'm a ruskie!

The ANZAC · February 12, 2002, 21:47

One U-Boat was destroyed...

OOC: I switched the events for the next year. I think it worked, tell me if I'm wrong.

Scott F · February 13, 2002, 00:09

France Collapses! Paris Falls!

German troops, exploiting a breakthrough in the French lines north of Amiens and covered by air superiority, have at last broken the deadlock on the western front. After achieving the breakthrough in the front lines, German troops advanced rapidly. Amiens fell first. With the fall of Amiens, German forces had open access to French railway lines. Boarding trains and moving swiftly across the French interior, the German Army fought what the Supreme Command has called "the railway war." Within a matter of days, German troops, carried by railway cars, moved across the whole of France, completely unopposed due to the shock and chaos created by their initial attacks. Paris, the sole point of resistance in all of France, fell after a pitched battle of only a few hours. The French government is believed to have fled south to Marseilles, one of the few enclaves not now in German hands. It is estimated that over forty allied divisions have deserted alone due to the fall of their homelands.

The Kaiser, after visiting Paris and touring the sights, returned to Germany to adulation in Berlin. Not even the great victories of Wilhelm the Great, the elder Field Marshal Moltke, and the Iron Chancellor in 1870 and 1871 can compare to the great achievement of German troops. With Christmas at hand, the war is now effectively over. France has been pillaged and looted of all valuables to further the German war effort in the east.

In the east, German triumphs are also impressive, with both Warsaw and Vilnius having fallen to brave German forces. These victories, orchestrated by the towering trio of Field Marshal Paul von Hindenburg, General Erich Ludendorff, and Colonel Max Hoffmann, were sadly overshadowed by the victories in the western campaign. With Warsaw having fallen, Poland is expected to collapse in the coming months. Resupply and reinforcement is unlikely due to the fall of the strategic transportation center of Vilnius.

Dr. Nick · February 13, 2002, 00:27

The collapse of France to the hands of Germany has been the wild talk in the coffee houses across the Empire, with many praising the German leadership for this lightning attack never before witnessed by any army and the most brilliant military action for many centuries to come.

The rapid collapse of France, an industrial and potent nation, has boosted morale across the Austro-Hungarian Empire who's main enemy is Russia and it is expected that the backwards feudal nation should fall in no time to the joint effort of Austrians and Hungarians, each fighting to counter the oppression of the Russian tsar.

Germanism shall triumph as it is destined and written!

On December 24th a toast was celebrated in the Royal Palace in Vienna in honour of Kaiser Wilhelm I for the upholding of his promise for indeed, this war mostly over by Christmas and only the battered remnants of Russia remain to sue for peace.

Dr. Nick · February 13, 2002, 00:29

And, in his orgasmic happiness, the Kaiser forgot to attach the save.

Soundwave · February 13, 2002, 00:50

LOL!!!

Nice going Kraiser!

MagyarCrusader · February 13, 2002, 02:55

Holy crap! Congratulations to your victories, the way history should have been. Damn Scott you're killer! Did you build a railroad across the trench under the cover of a recon plane?

If not, please tell me how you did it!

On a minor side note, the Russian revolution hits 3 years earlier than expected. The Russian armies abandon Poland and a good chunk of the Ukraine to Germany and unrest forces the Czar to abdicate. Lenin returns and a civil war breaks out. The Bolshevicks get horribly slaughtered.

The ANZAC · February 13, 2002, 18:44

Hmm. Well, somehow you found out my defenses were weak just north Amiens and you exloited it. Don't expect your luck to last long. I still have an ace up my sleeve.

MagyarCrusader · February 14, 2002, 02:24

Are we contuing? If so, lets go!

Scott F · February 14, 2002, 08:30

No, I didn't use recon planes to cover building a railway. I attacked a weak point in the line and used a recon plane to get past the zone of control restrictions. I then attacked Amiens, capturing it (that was the original goal of the operation). Then I realized that The ANZAC didn't have any infantry at all in nearly all of France's cities. I sent a cavalry unit out, took all of the cities with a single unit, sold improvements for plunder, and attacked and took Paris. Along the way I stumbled upon the allied engineer/settler units and killed two of them.

Now, I don't know how you define victory in this scenario. If the fall of Paris is meant to end the war, then the Allies have lost and the war is effectively over. If the fall of Paris and most of France isn't meant to end the war, then we can go on. It's up to the rest of you. I'm certain that The Anzac can make a go of it, but he's lost a huge number of units in a single turn, along with most of France's productive capacity. That leaves Russia to bear the brunt of the Austro-German forces for quite some time. And in Russia's current position...

It also means, if we want to be picky, that the Italians would never realistically enter the war on the side of the smashed Allies (so we may want to rewrite that part of the events file so that they either opportunistically join the Germans or stay out for at least another year).