Newbie help :)

Lewk · January 13, 2002, 08:26

right, i used to play civ 2 a lot. but i only ever played it on chieftain, because i never had the guts to go up a level. so now i have civ 3, and have played it in chieftain a few times,i was thinking of going to regent. does this make the game a lot harder?

Also, is REX a good tactic? and i have this thing where i fear using any military power whatsoever. should i fear war? I just have this fear i am going to get whupped.

Anyway, thanks a lot.

Willem · January 13, 2002, 12:26

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Originally posted by Lewk
right, i used to play civ 2 a lot. but i only ever played it on chieftain, because i never had the guts to go up a level. so now i have civ 3, and have played it in chieftain a few times,i was thinking of going to regent. does this make the game a lot harder?

Also, is REX a good tactic? and i have this thing where i fear using any military power whatsoever. should i fear war? I just have this fear i am going to get whupped.

Anyway, thanks a lot.

In Civ I & II, I've always played at the Regent equivalent, and for the most part I've always been assured of coming out on top in the end, and getting most of the Wonders. But with this version, it's a whole new ball game. I actually have to work hard to stay on top, if I can even get there. I always seem to be outnumbered/outsized, and usually end up taking a sound beating in any war. So yes, it is harder. But it's also the level where there's no bonuses/restrictions for either the player or the AI.

As for REX, it's about the only tactic to use really. The AI tries to expand so rapidly, you have to hussle in order to keep up. It helps a lot if you can expand right in front of him/her and cut off the opportunity for further expansion. But forget about building units in them, just cultural improvements and courthouses. Reinforce from your main empire.

Lewk · January 13, 2002, 15:00

Ah thanks. im rubbish at these games though, i always come out at the end as "the pathetic"

Taarkin · January 13, 2002, 15:24

Does difficulty have anything to do with your ranking at the end? I conquered the world on chieftan and I was ranked 3rd fro mthe bottom.

Lewk · January 13, 2002, 17:47

I think it must do.

notyoueither · January 13, 2002, 18:33

Lewk.

Why not just start a war, just for the hell of it? Do something, judge results, do something a bit different, etc. In the end you may loose your first war (and second, maybe). So what? Regard those games as trainers or simulations. ie your training yourself. In a trainer, reloading autosaves is no big deal. It is for training right?

They did do a good job for the AI at war, but any committed player should be able to figure out how to best it. After all, it will not change, but you will as you learn. That is your advantage. That is what Soren cannot overcome (yet).

This reminds me of that scene in a Conan movie. What gives the most pleasure? To crush the enemy, drive them before you and to hear the lamentations of their women. Think happy thoughts.

Salve

Ironikinit · January 13, 2002, 21:49

They ripped that line off from Ghengis Khan.

Lewk · January 14, 2002, 11:03

I started a war against the romans, and wiped them out. but then, i was on chieftain. i was playing as the aztecs.

i learned this.

Impi warriors are rubbish offensive, but good defence
Archers are good offence but rubbish defence
Swordsmen are average offence and defence

they are the only 3 units i used. am i correct? have i learned?

Aeson · January 14, 2002, 12:07

Try using veteran Horsemen exclusively next time. Make sure to build up a sizeable force before attacking (and don't attack the Zulu's). In any non-Zulu war, horsemen are by far the most effective units in my experience. Later on in the game, upgrade them to Knights, and then Calvary.

Willem · January 14, 2002, 13:07

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Originally posted by Lewk
I started a war against the romans, and wiped them out. but then, i was on chieftain. i was playing as the aztecs.

i learned this.

Impi warriors are rubbish offensive, but good defence
Archers are good offence but rubbish defence
Swordsmen are average offence and defence

they are the only 3 units i used. am i correct? have i learned?

Archers aren't bad if you stick them up in a mountain, especially against Barbarians. I generally use them just for lookouts.

Lewk · January 14, 2002, 14:20

hah i said i as playing as z\tecs, im actually playing zulu, hehe.
woops

Aeson · January 14, 2002, 15:11

Ah, the Zulu's are the perfect Civ to use for a Horseman rush, as Impies make for great support units. Wasn't sure if you meant Zulu's instead of Aztecs, or Jag Warriors instead of Impies, so included the warning against attacking the Zulu's.

Lewk · January 14, 2002, 17:38

Aha, thanks to all your help i just successfully trok out the babylonians. I'm now on one continent with the persians the only ones left, howeveer theres another 5 civs somewhere, that i cant discover yet due to lack of proper boats. dammit i hate galleys.