Democratic Game... Well what do you think about that!

James Adams · January 15, 2002, 06:03

Well at CivFanatics forum they have a democratic game on classic civ2 where the president does the gamming but has to do as the member want he can tell what they want by polls!

Well what do you think about this idea to set up one here!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumd...php?forumid=58

You can but you have to be a member to reply to the polls and threads but you can see it!

"well, adamsj, i hate creating empty forums , especially if you require posting abilities on specific people(a process that takes time), so why dont you start a presentation/sign-up thread in the civ2-general forum, and if we get a decent amount of interested people, we'll do the forum"

Well I have at http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=40079

DanQ · January 16, 2002, 00:02

AdamsSJ:

Can you provide a direct link to the thread in question at CivFanatics so myself, the rest of the Apolyton staff and the public at large here can look at it for further information so as to ascertain its potential for a similar test here?

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Dan; Apolyton CS

Chris 62 · January 16, 2002, 00:36

I'm afraid that's not possible Dan, we restrict access to the game forum to the actual players (For those who don't know, I am Alcibiates of Athenae, Moderator and current president of the game), which is currently 50+ players.

I can tell you about the concept, which is:

Playing a game of civ-2, where the posters vote for a cabinet, and then the cabinet post polls on game actions (such as what to build, what to research, ect).

The game is halted every five turns or so, for new polls.

The president posts screen shots of the game map, and the posters act as citizens, deciding the fate of their nation.

This type of game requires considerable effort from the Moderators (Cornmaster and Myself) to keep the game moving and the forum free of clutter, so the game can be played and enjoyed.

Some posters act as historians, recording the game, others form political action groups, and elections are held at intervals to allow others to play more leading rolls (for example, I am the second president, I served as Military advisor before).

The game is involved and very interactive, and our fictinal nation (united Fanatica) even has it's own flag, submitted as a contest, and voted on by the posters!

Lefty Scaevola · January 16, 2002, 00:36

They have a forum for it.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumd...?s=&forumid=58

The rules are in one of the sticky threads.

I have not participated, but as I understand it they elect a cabinet montly with position for president. VP and each one of the adisors. Each advisor post poll threads for matters to be decidened in his department, like the science guy would post a poll for which tech to research.

Lefty Scaevola · January 16, 2002, 00:40

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Originally posted by Chris 62
I'm afraid that's not possible Dan, we restrict access to the game forum to the actual players (For those who don't know, I am Alcibiates of Athenae, Moderator and current president of the game), which is currently 50+ players.

I just got in to look at the threads, and I am not registered player.

Perhaps only posting is barred, not looking.

Chris 62 · January 16, 2002, 00:44

I just reviewed my notes, you can look at it, but not POST in it.

My mistake.

Lefty Scaevola · January 16, 2002, 00:45

Ok I checked it. You can veiw but not post.

Edit: Is there a smurfing echo in here or what!?!

MarkG · January 16, 2002, 04:25

well, adamsj, i hate creating empty forums

, especially if you require posting abilities on specific people(a process that takes time), so why dont you start a presentation/sign-up thread in the civ2-general forum, and if we get a decent amount of interested people, we'll do the forum

Lefty Scaevola · January 16, 2002, 10:17

In 40 days with under 60 posters enabled, it has generated over 1800 posts. It appears to be a rather busy process to play the game.

MarkG · January 16, 2002, 10:30

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Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
In 40 days with under 60 posters enabled, it has generated over 1800 posts. It appears to be a rather busy process to play the game.

that's very good to hear. as i said, someone sould start the sign-up process in the civ2-general forum, and we'll go from there.....

chequita guevara · January 21, 2002, 18:44

That could make revolutions rather interesting. Overthrow those leading the game and take command for yourself.

H Tower · January 22, 2002, 01:51

it works pretty well.

however: chris, i'm going to have to tell you that i'll probably never be there again. for some reason i'm not able to log in anymore, some problem with the university's firewall. although i'm able to log in here wich makes no sense

The Mad Monk · January 22, 2002, 06:46

Do you have a spymaster, and does he have to post polls on what to do?

Chris 62 · January 22, 2002, 12:40

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Originally posted by H Tower
it works pretty well.

however: chris, i'm going to have to tell you that i'll probably never be there again. for some reason i'm not able to log in anymore, some problem with the university's firewall. although i'm able to log in here wich makes no sense

Contact Thunderfall at thunderfall@civfanatics.net, he may be able to help with this problem.

Kassiopeia · January 22, 2002, 12:58

*starts recruiting other Finns to the Democratic game like there was no tomorrow*

Maybe you need to advertise it on Off-Topic?

gopher · January 22, 2002, 17:15

This sounds like a great idea!
That is, until the Euros, with their parlimentary system expertise, make a majority in the cabinet.
UNACCEPTABLE

EDIT:
I laugh about thinking of a Direct Democracy with figureheads on Apolyton. I predict 500+ turns of Anarchy.

H Tower · January 22, 2002, 17:52

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Originally posted by Chris 62
Contact Thunderfall at thunderfall@civfanatics.net, he may be able to help with this problem.

i did that, he said upgrade to ie6.0 and make sure cookies are allowed. i did all that stuff and it still doesn't work. i tried it on the pcs in the computer lab and it didn't work. i tried it on the imac in the computer lab and it did work. but i'm not going to use an imac in some dingy computer lab just to post on CFC. so i'm stuck

Chris 62 · January 22, 2002, 23:36

We are upgrading the software again right now, maybe that will solve your problem.

H Tower · January 23, 2002, 01:31

don't be suprised if i never show again

James Adams · January 23, 2002, 05:56

We have 12 members so far ...

Think at civfanactic version they have a limited I think at moment at 50 members, and to start at 35 members.

I think that here we should have no limited at the moment at the number of members.

And i think will should start when we have an elected President and elected leaders of the department in government!

shade · January 23, 2002, 11:01

maybe all info should be placed on the civ2-general thread from now on,so it's easier to find everything we need to know and we can stay updated easily.

Shade

James Adams · January 24, 2002, 06:23

Quote:

Originally posted by shade
maybe all info should be placed on the civ2-general thread from now on,so it's easier to find everything we need to know and we can stay updated easily.

Shade

There will a forum for this game in few days, I ask Mark G by PM.

shade · January 24, 2002, 11:00

ok

Shade

DarkCloud · January 24, 2002, 21:44

Will the forum count post count ?

If so- I may be interested in joiniong!

shade · January 25, 2002, 15:26

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Originally posted by DarkCloud
Will the forum count post count ?

If so- I may be interested in joiniong!

Shame on you

Shade

DarkCloud · January 28, 2002, 23:45

Quote:

Originally posted by shade

Shame on you

Shade

Why- post count is important- it's the only thing keeping me here other than the story thread in AC-Fiction???

As for the game- I started a few polls- and I feel that it hopefully will do good, provided that Apolyton doesn't crash again

Kassiopeia · January 29, 2002, 03:33

By the way, as a political promise, I declare that all polls posted by me as Minister of City Planning will have a deadline of at least 24 hours 1,5 minutes.

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkCloud
Why- post count is important- it's the only thing keeping me here other than the story thread in AC-Fiction???

But it isn't any use to you. You need about 5000 posts to get to the second level.
I, however, am only 148 away from King.

James Adams · January 29, 2002, 09:01

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Originally posted by kassiopeia
By the way, as a political promise, I declare that all polls posted by me as Minister of City Planning will have a deadline of at least 24 hours 1,5 minutes.

But it isn't any use to you. You need about 5000 posts to get to the second level.
I, however, am only 148 away from King.

Kassiopeia you are not the Minister of City Planning, as they are elections for all cabinet posts. If they are no other nominances for Minister of City Planning, by the time the game start you will be Minister of City Planning. But as of late you are not Minister of City Planning until an election and you have won that election.

shade · January 29, 2002, 11:30

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Originally posted by adamsj

Kassiopeia you are not the Minister of City Planning, as they are elections for all cabinet posts. If they are no other nominances for Minister of City Planning, by the time the game start you will be Minister of City Planning. But as of late you are not Minister of City Planning until an election and you have won that election.

Are you sure you don't want to run for president?

Shade

James Adams · January 31, 2002, 10:01

As my Civ2 is on a computer than now and forever with be unconnected to the internet!

So I cannot run for President!