SUccession Game - Page 15

Sovy Kurosei · March 25, 2002, 12:03

Here is a Mod I am working on. This is the list of changes I made so far.

It is on an earth map, similer to the one we are playing.

CHANGES:

- Wealth is changed from 1-8 shields per gold coin, to 1-4 shields per gold coin.

- Basic Barbarian is now an Archer

- Advanced Barbarian is now a Swordsmen

- Communism has been weakened down to having unit support changed to 1 per town, 2 per city, and 4 per metropolis. Worker rate increased to 3.

- Democracy has been renamed to Capitalism ( NOTE: Democracy is the political side of a government, and Capitalism is an Economic side of a government. I was pretty annoyed when Firaxis pants this up since it is quite possible to have a democratic communist government )

Capitalism has a unit support of 1 per city, and 2 per metropolis, Military Police has been added up to 1, and assimilation chance has been increased to 6%. Capitalism has also lost its 'Propaganda' Immunity, and has recieved a negative propaganda modifier for almost every other government. Cannot Hurry Production. Cost upkeep per unit is now 2 gold peices a turn.

- Republic has a unit support of 1 per city, 1 per metropolis. Military Police has been raised to 1. Assimilation chance has been increased to 4%

- Monarchy has a worker rate of 3 now. As well as using forced labor to get the job done. Unit support has been changed to 2 per town, 3 per city, and 4 per metropolis.

- Marketplace now has a culture value of 1.

- Temple requires 0 upkeep.

- The Hanging Gardens takes longer to make obsolete ( Motorized Transportation replaces Steam Power )

- The Great Library lets you gain any advances from two civs, as well as gaining 2 advances for yourself.

- The Great Wall places a wall in every city on the continent.

- Magellan's Voyage is a stupid wonder... Added the bonus of having a 8 point culture, plus having the ability to gain any advances from two known Civs.

- Shakespeare's Theatre now has been changed to put 4 happy faces in one city, and 1 happy face in every other city.

- Combat Experience levels are now changed. It is normal like before, but all experience levels recieve a +1 HP point.

- Scientist, Tax Collector and Entertainer are twice as powerful. ( IE, Scientists finds 2 points of science every turn, instead of 1. Entertainer entertains 2 people, instead of 1 ).

- Doubled Optimal amount of cities per map ( Except for Standard, which is doubled + 4 )

***CURRENTLY CONSIDERING***

Changing names and colours and Unique Units for Civs.

Giving Civs 1 additional starting tech.

Adding the governments of Fascism, Theology and Socialism.

Changing some more buildings and wonders around.

civman2000 · March 25, 2002, 13:42

sounds great!

ps: just finished the 10 turns! WAR IS NOT NECESSARY TO KEEP UP W/IROQUOIS AND GERMANY!!!!!!!!

YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

civman2000 · March 25, 2002, 13:58

1772 AD: THe leader of ORPCP (Organization for Roman Peace and Civland Prosperity), named civman in honor of civman V, is elected Head Civver civman VIII. His campaign was centered around the "3 p's": peace, prosperity, and progress. TO insure the safety of the Civvers, manyh cities begin training militias armed with rifles. Science gains a large part of the federal budget; luxuries are turned down.

1774 AD: The new Head Civver is widely criticized for the luxury decrease. Cities throughout Civland riot. Meanwhile, Civ forces find Virconium in South AMerica undefended and destroy it.

1776 AD: Due to the recent loss of Virconium, Roman leader Julius Caeser agrees to negotiate peace in Szlith. The humiliating Treaty of Szlith made Rome give up the following things:
1. Its entire treasury
2. Every city and all territory controlled with the lone exception of Aurelinorum (sp?) and its surroundings.
3. The science of medicine and their system of industrialization.
In other news:
Nagasaki is captured.
An embassy is built in Russia.
A cavalry division is badly damaged by native Uruguayan warriors!
civman VIII is reelcted to his second term as Head Civver.

1778 AD: As a result of the Treaty of Szlith, civman's popularity skyrockets. Many cities hold celebrations in the streets of their boys coming home! A women's suffrage organization called the Civland Association of Suffragists is founded in Civburg. Tokuwaga, the dishonorable Japanese leader, is captured in Shimonoseki and Japan is proclaimed vanquished! For the first time in centuries, Civland will (hopefully) have a lasting peace! Free Artistry is bought from the Greeks, and a great theater is begun in Civville. An embassy is built in Salamanca, and it is discovered that Germany and Iroquois are 3 techs ahead, but no one else is ahead of the Civvers! THe Head Civver announces the beginning of the construction of "Fort civman" outside of CIvburg to hold Civland's estimated 850,000 cavalrymen and cannoners during times of peace.

1780 AD: A deal is made with the Iroquois:
Civland gives a supply of spices for:
1. THe map of the Iroquois territory
2. 24 golden international coins
3. One gold coin every 2 years
4. The science of using replaceable parts
When taught the science of replaceable parts, the scientists of Civland realize a substance called "rubber" is needed. A quick survey of the nation reveals 9 sources already being tapped for minor uses! ALso, civman VIII is elected to a third term of office.

1782 AD: The 3 p's continue.

1784 AD: Luxury portion of budget decreased. Fort civman is completed, and it already holds 13 cavalry divisiona and 4 cannon divisions! The Head Civver's popularity continues to soar (87% approval rating!) as he is elected to a fourth term.

1786 AD: Neapolitans riot! 430 gold coins and the CIvvers' map is used to buy the knowledge of the scientific method from the Iroquois! A scientist named Darwin is hired to work at the University of Civmanton!

1788 AD: civman's first action after being elected to a fifth term is to land an exploratory force of 2 cavalry divisions in Greenland.

1790 AD: A city-building corps sets sail from Ulundi on its way to South America!

1792 AD: The cavalry divisions in Greenland are badly damaged by native warriors! Head Civver civman VIII's last major action is buying an economic strategy known as a corporation from the Iroquois for the Civland map and 430 gold. On March 25, 1792, he dies of skin cancer, 3 days before the election. His last words: "Journier [his running mate], take over the campaign and please win! Continue buying technology. Continue peace. Continue prosperity. Continue progress. Continue bringing cavalry divisions to Fort civman. Continue my legacy!"

civman2000 · March 25, 2002, 14:02

A few lil notes:
WE are now 1 tech (sanitation) behind germany and iroquois, but dont bother getting it (refining is more important). Note that Iroquois will ONLY sell if we're researching the desired tech and only have 3 turns or so left, OR we have tons and tons of money (we dont

).
Also, if you cant find Fort civman for some strange reason, it is a huge stack of cavalry and cannons north of Civburg.
One last thing: there are 2 cavalry units heading south in South america. Have them continue in that direction; there are a couple huts and a few barbarians.

civman2000 · March 25, 2002, 14:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Sovy Kurosei
- Basic Barbarian is now an Archer

- Advanced Barbarian is now a Swordsmen

That would be very interesting...

Sovy Kurosei · March 25, 2002, 14:27

Well, look at what the Vikings did...

BTW, guys, we gotta take out Germany and Iroquis soon if we want to make sure our technological lead is secured.

I have another strategy. One of the French towns is a Panema canal, located south of the Real Life Mexico area. If we take that Panema Canal city, we can launch a better offensive against the West Coast of the Iroquis.

The Iroquis are our main threat now... So many cities...

Time to mass produce Galleons, Cavalry and if we get the techs, tanks

Sovy Kurosei · March 25, 2002, 14:31

Oh, by the way Rotten, good job with dealing with the Zulu's, Romans and Japs

You definately deserved the Empire Destroyer Title that time

Sovy Kurosei · March 25, 2002, 14:33

Oh, yeah, if you can, maybe we should stake out the Rights of Passage with the Iroquis. I know this will screw us over badly, ( Not like we are already screwed over as it is ) relation wise that is, but Iroquis are too dang big and are building those railroads too quickly for us to take them on.

BTW, we GOTTA make our stand soon. Democracy or Communism. We can't stick with the Republic forever on end, you know...

civman2000 · March 25, 2002, 16:45

hmmm...i think in many ways monarchy is better than communism, although on this map communism is probably better...If our next war will be with iroquois, definitely yes...if germany...maybe monarchy might be better

ps: we still arent close to being able to match germany or iroquois...their science is coming pretty quick (double speed because they work together!) and we need to upgrade/build/draft infantry for every city...reason we should go for refining is to see oil locations ASAP...Also, maybe we might consider a few turns of peace and democracy?

Sovy Kurosei · March 25, 2002, 18:20

Only if we had a religious civ...

*Sighs*

Sorry, I doubt we can really make leaps and bounds between governments. Heck, even 1 might put us back badly. And the only successful way to catch up is to use the 3rd degree of our military on everybody...

steelehc · March 25, 2002, 19:58

Guess who's back from Alaska? Me, obviously.

I can jump back in the rotation anytime, lemme know when you want me to play again.

Steele

Journier · March 25, 2002, 20:10

LOLOL g/j civman

reason im laughing?
NO chance in hell anyone will sign a right of passage agreement with us. U guys attacked (egypt?) while having one with them and noone will sign with us they bring up the same excuse ( we wont fall for what u did to egypt also)

heh

u guys got plenty of oil in IRAQ and i believe asia.

Ill play turns right now

Journier · March 25, 2002, 22:21

heres the story very boring turns

1794---Journier the great after being elected begins his reign of control and increasing of civlands power beyond even what civman wanted. Exploraton cav. in south america put on duty to find ancient ruins and see what they can find...

1796--- people sat back and did jack, 3 barbarians lumbered towards one of the crowns finest cavalry units in greenland and were cut down before they could mumble ouch.
Renamed Rhodes to Forbidden Palace so its easier to tell where the new "producing cities" are. Put economy to more prosperity for future generations around Forbidden palace like 5 cities i changed production to market place and banks... Should bring in anothe 20 gold a turn when done in like 15 turns...

1798--- Commander JOOJOO BEANS looked out over the mountains from his cavalry battalion.
JOOJOO- Whats that little man with an axe doing over there and why the hell is he so hairy....

BOOBOO- Hell if i know sir... should we shoot him i think hes trying to move toward us....

JOOJOO- yea go for it im going to go take a crap in that cave over there.

BOOBOO- Ummm sir... another 15 of those hairy guys just came over the ridge... 30.. 300... omg... sir..

JOOJOO- OMG YES YES YESSSSSSS AHHHHHHhhhh there we go.. What is it boy?

BOOBOO- LOoks away from JOOJOO and points to hill's where 3000 or more barbarians face the 200 cavalry..

JOOJOO- OMG men defensive formations BOOBOO u stay here and keep ur horse ready in case we lose the battle ill be running my @ss back to u to take ur own... u would hold them off for ur commander riighhtt????

BOOBOO-ummm ok...

JOOJOO later on in day won battle with 0 losses one of the greatest victories to occur on greenland.. BooBoo 10 minutes after the JOOJOO left passed out from stench of JooJoo's crap.

1800--- The people celebrated new century. yay...
I changed production in far far away cities on our borders from things that would complete in 80 turns to wealth... If someone doesnt agree with it go ahead and change it.. i just dont see how its very worthwhile for them to build something in 80 turns...

1802--- Used new treasury fund of 400 gold to upgrade pikeman and muskets and muskets to infantry.

1804---used treasury again to upgrade a few more riflemen to infantry.

1806-boredom... bigtime... Journier the Great began drinking heavily.

1808--- Journier the Great goes down in record books for drinking the most russian vodka on earth in 1 day. The man begins Pissin Beer high quality that gets sold in his own stores.

1810-1812- discovered refining began researching steel.
Iroquis grabbed 2 wonders 1's in salamanca. other i forgot...
1 other wonder is in ****hai the sufferage one.. i was sorta pissed they got that one.
Cough war with the chinese???

I built mines and rail roads all over by Forbidden palace and like 2 of its surrounding cities...

GL

Sovy Kurosei · March 25, 2002, 22:46

AGH! We must take those wonders back soon!

Quickly! Build Cavalry! The Iroquis are getting too powerful!

*Runs around in circles*

Journier · March 25, 2002, 22:56

lol i think we should take out china and when we get universal sufferage wait 10 or more turns to rebuild an even larger army and an invasion fleet... and land on north america...

civman2000 · March 26, 2002, 00:17

Welcome back steele! If you go to page 41 or 42 or somewhere around there, there's an order...Journier, dunk999, and Rotten999 have joined, Coinich left (were you there for that?)...In all, tons of stuff happened while you were gone...

PS: Journier, how's the tech race going? did the iroquois and germany make any new discoveries?

civman2000 · March 26, 2002, 00:30

Universal Suffrage +Republic =happy wars!!!

Plan(?): 1. Take out China.
2. (???big maybe???) Switch to communism.
3. Attack India (Eliminate the civs that are still "powers" but not "superpowers" first).
4. FIgure out what to do once we've gotten to this point.

And, according to the order, godinex should be up next...looks like 10 more turns of peace before phase 1 goes into action!

civman2000 · March 26, 2002, 00:36

I've been thinking, and I think controlling Europe, Asia, and Africa (essentially wiping out/shrinking everyone but iroquois) might be a domination victory, if we control Brazil too. Overall though, to get domination ASAP, we need to step up colonization efforts and maybe begin building up in australia (possibly large enough to make us need a big iroquois war to win...)

Sovy Kurosei · March 26, 2002, 01:35

So, the Germans are the first to die?

Journier · March 26, 2002, 02:02

yea the germans and iroqui's discovered 1 new tech... forgot which one though... :/

domination victory = 66% of land right?

that should be all of asia and africa no doubt... its 66% of land compared to rest of land controlled my other opponents.. not total land on map... it can also be like culture or something 66% more culture

pfft good luck on that lol

Journier · March 26, 2002, 02:07

heh yea... i just thought about that... we could build like 25 settlers and just colinize the rest of south america and green land and australia and any other rock we can find.. lol should be a domination win right there

civman2000 · March 26, 2002, 10:19

I'm almost certain it has nothing to do with you compared to others. you must have 66% of the land squares on the map within your borders, that the only way to win a domination victory.

PS: a cultural victory is out, because although we might get 20,000 in Civville or 100,000 overall, we have to have at least double everyone else too!!

Journier · March 26, 2002, 11:20

ok... lets take out china then india
after them lets sit for another 10-20 turns to rebuild our army to take out germany... should be simple.

and guys best way to take out a computer opponent with railroads is land on a mountain with defensive units... and i mean like 20 or more of them... they computer sends any unit it has free to attack ur landers. after u hold the comp off u can then send in offensive units and just bam bam.... knock his cities out 1 by 1.. although i guarentee we will need like extra tranny's waiting at home for new troops to be sent over cuz i know hes going to be ripping us a new one with his defensive units...

and seeing how INFANTRY can kill any offensive unit we have right now... id say lets build up artillery... definate... we can probably weaken his cities and troops in the city a few hitpoints before we attack... probably make success a little better...

i say 15 artillery pieces

and they move around easy anyways

dunk · March 26, 2002, 12:05

How far away are tanks? If it's not that long, wait. Then we can run over the Germans saying "Tankie, tankie".

Sovy Kurosei · March 26, 2002, 14:26

When my turn comes around, I'll see about prepping up the invasion force for Germany.

If we take some of the Germans key resources quickly, they won't have any to build up something to counter us.

India and China will be easy targets...

steelehc · March 26, 2002, 18:19

Page 41? I only see 16 pages. Oh well. Someone just tell me when you want me to play. Didn't know about Coinich leaving, must have missed that. Hello Journier, and Dunk999. Rotten999 was here when I left.

Steele

civman2000 · March 26, 2002, 21:22

tanks? germany'll probab;y have them before us...so far they dont have a source of oil (!!!) but they have one in thier territory they just don't have a road to it yet

..note that no one has any good offensive units. That's why WWI took so long, everyone was just using artillery to both attack and defend, occasionally making a suicide infantry attack! Maybe masses of infantry (easy to make, can beat a counterattack, and, most importantly, can be drafted) with a few artillery might work...

civman2000 · March 26, 2002, 21:24

Quote:

Originally posted by civman2000
How it is now:
1. civman2000
2. Journier
3. godinex
4. Sovy Kurosei
5. dunk999
6. steelehc
7. Rotten999

Click on the links to hop from page to page, but the numbers of only 8 pages or something like that are shown at a time...you can go into the url and just change the parameter "pagenumber" (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41899&perpage=10&pagenumber=44, for example)

steelehc · March 26, 2002, 22:21

Thanks for the order. I know what you mean, about the pages, but it only goes up to 15. 15 is the last page of the thread.

Steele

civman2000 · March 26, 2002, 22:31

huh??? do you have your settings to 30 posts per page or something, that would explain it, because i have 10 per page...