Victory Condition: Unity

Christantine The Great · December 2, 2000, 19:44

In Civ II, to win by an Alpha Centauri victory you had to build the ship yourself, part by part. In SMAC the backstory is based on the U.N. nations building a single ship. Now Civ III's endgame story must be like the preface of the Alpha Centauri backstory. This leaves a gap bacause how does one nation "win" by helping to build the Unity? And after the Unity leaves does the world suddenly get very bad and everyone hates everyone and the war that ended all human life starts? Afterall we have to empty this rock for the end of SMAC.

Zer0_T0lerance · December 2, 2000, 20:01

I would have to suggest the complete opposite of that. You'll see what I mean when the next column comes out, I think.

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Zer0_T0lerance · December 3, 2000, 10:57

Well, next week's column, that is.

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Zero (formerly jrhughes98)

Tical_2000 · December 3, 2000, 17:02

quote:

Originally posted by Christantine The Great on 12-02-2000 06:44 PM
Now Civ III's endgame story must be like the preface of the Alpha Centauri backstory.

How do you figure? I don't remember anyone from Firaxis saying that this would be the case.

DarkCloud · December 3, 2000, 17:59

Civ III Victory Conditions-

Standard
-World Conquest
-Travel to Alpha Centauri (alone)
-Diplomatically Unite World (Then send to Alpha C)
-Market Cornering
-Get elected world leader for 500 years

More Radical
-Build the Mind Control Unit
-Have a happiness ratio of 5-1 on every civ (world revolt to join you)

JamesJKirk · December 3, 2000, 18:56

Yes, there should definitely be "happy" victory endings and "less happy" ones, ex. all the science and diplomatic victory endings would lead to a utopian earth, but the conquest one should seem much more dark. Even a market cornering ending would have a neocolonialism feel, forcing everyone to buy from you
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Christantine The Great · December 3, 2000, 22:01

quote:

Originally posted by Tical_2000 on 12-03-2000 04:02 PM
How do you figure? I don't remember anyone from Firaxis saying that this would be the case.

Well since they are aiming at a "Sweep of Time" wouldn't you think that Firaxis would like to link the games somehow?

Tical_2000 · December 3, 2000, 22:09

quote:

Originally posted by Christantine The Great on 12-03-2000 09:01 PM

Well since they are aiming at a "Sweep of Time" wouldn't you think that Firaxis would like to link the games somehow?

Actually, I doubt that SMAC will have anything to do with Civ3 or its endgame. If it does, then I owe you a drink.

Zer0_T0lerance · December 4, 2000, 01:23

quote:

Originally posted by Christantine The Great on 12-03-2000 09:01 PM
Well since they are aiming at a "Sweep of Time" wouldn't you think that Firaxis would like to link the games somehow?

HA! HA! HA! Just you wait 'till this weekend!

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Zero (formerly jrhughes98)

Christantine The Great · December 4, 2000, 17:41

What do you mean? Should I be checking www.firaxis.com/civ3 soon?

Adm.Naismith · December 4, 2000, 17:45

Tical 2000,

quote:

Well since they are aiming at a "Sweep of Time" wouldn't you think that Firaxis would like to link the games somehow?

I have the same opinion, because Firaxis needs to add some "meat" to that "bone" they launched at us with that "Sweep of time" announce months ago!

better you prepare your money for give that drink to Christantine

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Admiral Naismith AKA mcostant

Zer0_T0lerance · December 4, 2000, 19:23

quote:

Originally posted by Christantine The Great on 12-04-2000 04:41 PM
What do you mean? Should I be checking www.firaxis.com/civ3 soon?

Nay. Just be sure and read next week's column. You won't regret it!

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Zero (formerly jrhughes98)

Christantine The Great · December 4, 2000, 21:53

quote:

Originally posted by Zero_Tolerance on 12-04-2000 06:23 PM
Nay. Just be sure and read next week's column. You won't regret it!

And if I do regret it I will have a cherry soda with a little umbrella.

DarkCloud · December 4, 2000, 23:20

SMAC IS based on Civ's endgame; in Civ II you build a spaceship to go to Alpha Centauri!

Deathwalker · December 5, 2000, 06:34

Persoannly I like the idea of bringing world unity, like they are trying to do to Europe at the moment, this could make an interesting victory.

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OreoFuchi · December 5, 2000, 14:32

quote:

Originally posted by Deathwalker on 12-05-2000 05:34 AM
Persoannly I like the idea of bringing world unity, like they are trying to do to Europe at the moment, this could make an interesting victory.

More than bringing it -- maintaining world unity should be possible end scenario.

Christantine The Great · December 5, 2000, 16:22

quote:

Originally posted by DarkCloud on 12-04-2000 10:20 PM
SMAC IS based on Civ's endgame; in Civ II you build a spaceship to go to Alpha Centauri!

"You" is the key word there. In SMAC the U.N. built it and I am addressing how that will fit in in Civ II.

Biddles · December 6, 2000, 22:37

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More than bringing it -- maintaining world unity should be possible end scenario.

Hell, that's a game all in itself

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Maybe you should have to build the most of the unity. All nations can build components of the unity (i.e. the one ship) and whichever civ has the greatest percentage of components, wins.

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