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February 18, 2002, 14:12
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Oh, come on. We can't tell the differance any more than they could for someone who is American, someone who is Canadian, someone who is Australian, and someone who is British.
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Canadians only wear flannel and say "eh" and "aboot".
Americans will always say "y'all".
Australians say "mate", "barbie", and "g'day".
Brits are the leftovers.
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February 18, 2002, 14:18
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Originally posted by MikeH
To answer the initial question, it'd have to be a very large lightbulb for anyone to be able to screw in it.
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Heh, I still can't help thinking about to screw in a lightbulb that way everytime I see the phrase...
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February 18, 2002, 14:38
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Originally posted by Asher
Americans will always say "y'all".
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Only the southerners.
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February 18, 2002, 14:39
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And not all Canadians say "aboot" an "eh" and dress in flannel.
Those stereotypes were intentional.
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February 18, 2002, 14:49
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I believe that world peace and the end of racism can be achieved when the last american wasp is struggled with the guts of the last english.
if this makes me a racist, I don't know *shrug* I don't think so tho.
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February 18, 2002, 14:51
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February 18, 2002, 14:54
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I´m no racist despite what ppl say
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February 18, 2002, 15:11
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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Oh, come on. We can't tell the differance any more than they could for someone who is American, someone who is Canadian, someone who is Australian, and someone who is British.
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Actually, regarding East Asians, there are differences if you are observant enough. They are subtle differences, and exist over a spectrum, but someone familiar with them can usually tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese, and Laotian (for example). And, of course, they could tell the difference amongst themselves much easier than an American could.
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February 18, 2002, 17:04
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But my high school is about 1/2 asian of different varieties, 1/4 white, and the last quarter indian...
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I think he's referring to Amerindians. There aren't too many schools in North America where a quarter of the population is South Asian...
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February 18, 2002, 17:06
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How Many Racists Does It Take to Screw in a Lightbulb?
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None, they get their slave to do it.
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February 18, 2002, 17:24
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Prince
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I took the racism selector at selectsmart.com and ended up an "racial bigot", whatever the hell they mean with that.  Just because I oppose AA...
I know my real preference is colorblind when it comes to Politics.
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February 18, 2002, 17:29
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Originally posted by Juggernaut
I took the racism selector at selectsmart.com and ended up an "racial bigot", whatever the hell they mean with that. Just because I oppose AA... 
I know my real preference is colorblind when it comes to Politics.
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Liberals dont want to have a concrete definition of racism, that way they can use it to tar and feather more people.
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February 18, 2002, 17:31
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Originally posted by Juggernaut
I took the racism selector at selectsmart.com and ended up an "racial bigot", whatever the hell they mean with that. Just because I oppose AA... 
I know my real preference is colorblind when it comes to Politics.
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I took that test and got:
# 1 Anti-Racist
# 2 Colorblind
# 3 Racial 'Realist'
# 4 Racist
# 5 Racial Bigot
# 6 Racialist
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February 18, 2002, 18:28
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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Oh, come on. We can't tell the differance any more than they could for someone who is American, someone who is Canadian, someone who is Australian, and someone who is British.
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I hope you recognise that the "Old World" countries have populations which are a hell of a lot more ethnically distinct than those of the New World. There's no real genetic difference between a white guy in Australia and a white guy in Canada. There is a difference between ethnic Chinese/ethnic Laotian.
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February 18, 2002, 18:32
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Re: Spink
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Originally posted by Ramo
I think he's referring to Amerindians. There aren't too many schools in North America where a quarter of the population is South Asian...
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Given that he lives in Toronto I doubt he's going to school with too many Amerindians. In many neighbourhoods there or in Montreal you could find schools where 1/2 or 3/4 of the students are south Asian, while the only places you'd find that many Amerindians is on a reservation or out in the middle of the prairies or the great North.
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February 18, 2002, 18:37
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Took the test
# 1 Anti-Racist
# 2 Racial 'Realist'
# 3 Racist
# 4 Colorblind
# 5 Racial Bigot
# 6 Racialist
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February 18, 2002, 19:03
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You're probably right, KH. Never been to Canada before, so I have little idea what the ethnic composition actually is.
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We can't tell the differance any more than they could for someone who is American, someone who is Canadian, someone who is Australian, and someone who is British.
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Linguistically (therefore, genetically), the difference between the Chinese and Laotian people is about as great as the difference between the English and Iranian people. In other words, the difference is certainly not trivial.
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Last edited by Ramo; February 18, 2002 at 19:09.
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February 18, 2002, 21:47
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Re: Re: Spink
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Given that he lives in Toronto I doubt he's going to school with too many Amerindians. In many neighbourhoods there or in Montreal you could find schools where 1/2 or 3/4 of the students are south Asian, while the only places you'd find that many Amerindians is on a reservation or out in the middle of the prairies or the great North.
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I was in the distinct minority in my high school, here in Calgary.
Literally about 3/5 of my school was Asian (as in, the continent).
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February 18, 2002, 21:50
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Settler
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asher is it too much to ask you to consider changing your avatar?
it freaks me out, like a demented serial killer or something.
thanks just think about it, is it pleasant to you?
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February 18, 2002, 22:54
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Re: Re: Spink
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Given that he lives in Toronto I doubt he's going to school with too many Amerindians. In many neighbourhoods there or in Montreal you could find schools where 1/2 or 3/4 of the students are south Asian, while the only places you'd find that many Amerindians is on a reservation or out in the middle of the prairies or the great North.
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To clear this up: I was actually talking about the Indians that come from the large country to the east of Pakistan.
The only Amerindian I ever met in my school was a drunk homeless guy who wandered in. No offense meant, but it's actually true.
I got racist bigot on the test. I assume the reasons to be:
-I am against affirmative action
-I believe one should be proud of one's race and identify with one's culture to some extent. Diversity makes our society great!
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February 18, 2002, 23:22
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I vote we all go find Columbus' grave and spit in it for creating centuries of confusion.
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February 18, 2002, 23:43
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Oxford defines racism as: 1 (prejudice based on belief in superiority of particular race. 2 Antagonism towards other races.
The Encarta dictionary lists similar definitions, but for the second it states: The belief that people of different races have different qualities and abilities and that some races are inherently superior or inferior.
Using the Encarta definition, Caligastia is a racist.
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February 18, 2002, 23:52
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I took the test and got:
# 1 Anti-Racist
# 2 Colorblind
# 3 Racist
# 4 Racial 'Realist'
# 5 Racial Bigot
# 6 Racialist
Which question dealt with affirmative action?
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February 19, 2002, 00:07
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Tingkai:
5. Your race should not be considered at any time.
8. It is wrong to recognize or identify someone's 'race'.
9. It is not my responsibility to concern myself with the problems of other races.
12. Institutional racism and individual prejudice are morally equivalent.
13. It is a citizens duty to fight racism at all levels of society.
14. Mentioning race just reinforces racism.
Those all do, to some extent.
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February 19, 2002, 00:54
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Why shouldn't your race be considered at any time? Ignoring someone's race is pretty bad, also. You're saying to someone that part of who they are isn't worth recognition. Ignoring our differences is not superior to recognizing and clebrating our differences.
Vive la difference. We would be f*cking boring if we all looked like one particular group of people.
Growing up in a racist society, you are taught, over and over, certain assumptions about other groups. These become part of your core belief system, some of which may be so deeply ingrained that you don't even realize that you have them. The assumptions you make just seem natural.
I believe it is impossible for anyone to grow up in a racist society without being deformed by that sick system. By default, we are racists. We can educate ourselves and try and overcome these inherent asumptions. Even knowing, however, that you have racist attitudes is not necessarily enough. It may be that mere knowledge is enough to motivate a person to overcome those beliefs, but often it seems, it takes interaction to really break down those attitudes.
BTW, again, complex social issues can only be defined using a dictionary if you are a complete fool.
Yes, race is an arbitrary social distinction between humans. So is American and British and what we think the roles of men and women are. Their arbitrariness does not make these distcintions less real. Money is only an agreement among people, yet no one argues that it doesn't exist. Race exists, because we agree that it does, we act like it does, and among people, that's what's important.
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February 19, 2002, 01:28
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Haha, I'm a bigot
#1 Racial Bigot
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#3 Racist
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#6 Colorblind
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February 19, 2002, 01:31
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Why shouldn't your race be considered at any time? Ignoring someone's race is pretty bad, also. You're saying to someone that part of who they are isn't worth recognition.
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I agree. That's just renouncing one's own cultural heritage and to ignore history.
Sure, sometimes the situation can be rather complicated, but ignoring the question doesn't make it go away.
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February 19, 2002, 01:31
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Originally posted by paiktis22
asher is it too much to ask you to consider changing your avatar?
it freaks me out, like a demented serial killer or something.
thanks just think about it, is it pleasant to you?
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Once you admit you want me to change it because you're attracted to him I'll do it.
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February 19, 2002, 01:37
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Originally posted by Guynemer
Actually, regarding East Asians, there are differences if you are observant enough. They are subtle differences, and exist over a spectrum, but someone familiar with them can usually tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese, and Laotian (for example). And, of course, they could tell the difference amongst themselves much easier than an American could.
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That's very true. I can tell the difference between a Chinese, a Korean, and a Japanese readily. For SE Asians that takes some work.
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February 19, 2002, 01:39
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Having lived in New Asia for quite some time now I'm able to tell apart Japanese, Chinese, and Korean people pretty easily.
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