View Poll Results: In Fans are labled "Fanboys", then what should whiners be called?
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Killjoys 1 5.26%
Maladjusted Malcontents 3 15.79%
Discriminating consumers: They are the fertilizer that enriches the soil of Capitalism. 8 42.11%
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Old February 18, 2002, 19:02   #1
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Fans are "Fanboys", but what should whiners be called?
Surely you guys don't mind if I try my hand at being boring and divisive for a change, do you?

One good derogative deserves another. For every pro, there must be a con. For every joy, there must be a sorrow. For every Fanboy, there must be a ________.(Please fill in the blank)

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Old February 18, 2002, 19:20   #4
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Actually, a more precise term than fanboy is sycophant. And thank you, Spec. I am honored if I in any way represent the critics.
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Please don't discriminate against a whole class of folks with this philosophical/political position, just because some cranky poster uses it as a handle!

(Some of my best friends are libertarians ... )

In 20 years of reading Internet newsgroups, mailing lists, bulletin boards, etc., I've learning that there's (at least) one in every crowd. You can't reason with them, change their ways, or convince them of any other point of view. And they get downright viciously personal at times.

Make better use of your time: add to your "Ignore List"

C'mon guys, it's only a game! Let's enjoy it, and each other's company.
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So Lib. If someone likes the game, and says so, they have a character flaw? More precise? Pish.

So what are the critics? Psychopaths? Sociopaths? Sophists?
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Actually, a more precise term than fanboy is sycophant. And thank you, Spec. I am honored if I in any way represent the critics.
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sycophant, a servile self-seeking flatterer, comes from the word for swindler
http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?bo...y&va=sycophant
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sycophant, a servile self-seeking flatterer, comes from the word for swindler
http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?bo...y&va=sycophant

Sounds about right.
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There are indeed no "fanboys". What we have are suckups, apologists, toadies, shills, and, yes, sycophants for Firaxis.

The rest of us are discriminating consumers unwillingly to quietly pay $44.95 to end up as beta playtesters for an unplaytested game.
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Please don't discriminate against a whole class of folks with this philosophical/political position, just because some cranky poster uses it as a handle!

(Some of my best friends are libertarians ... )

In 20 years of reading Internet newsgroups, mailing lists, bulletin boards, etc., I've learning that there's (at least) one in every crowd. You can't reason with them, change their ways, or convince them of any other point of view. And they get downright viciously personal at times.

Make better use of your time: add to your "Ignore List"

C'mon guys, it's only a game! Let's enjoy it, and each other's company.

I dont want to add him to my ignore list! I wont be able to read all his very well thought out replies!
And you are right, we ARE playing a game.

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There are indeed no "fanboys". What we have are suckups, apologists, toadies, shills, and, yes, sycophants for Firaxis.

The rest of us are discriminating consumers unwillingly to quietly pay $44.95 to end up as beta playtesters for an unplaytested game.
Did that feel good... Are you feeling better now?

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There are indeed no "fanboys". What we have are suckups, apologists, toadies, shills, and, yes, sycophants for Firaxis.
Is there the slightest possibility I like the game?
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My goodness! This is a flamefest waiting to erupt.

Whiners whine.

They do not play.

They are useless.

They are sad.
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My goodness! This is a flamefest waiting to erupt.

Whiners whine.

They do not play.

They are useless.

They are sad.
Well, you added a couple of logs there!
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There are indeed no "fanboys". What we have are suckups, apologists, toadies, shills, and, yes, sycophants for Firaxis.

The rest of us are discriminating consumers unwillingly to quietly pay $44.95 to end up as beta playtesters for an unplaytested game.
Well, even though I intended this poll to be humorous, I suspected that it would also attract the more vituperative elements that haunt this forum.

Hey Encomium, since you make it a habit to hurl ad hominem attacks at those who disagree with you, I'm sure you won't mind if someone retorts for a change, do you?

Let me ask you: According to your profile, you were born in 1965? And yet, despite being a 37 year-old, soon to be middle-aged man, you spend your days obsessing over a video game? You average nearly 4 post per day here, and about the same at civfanatics (under the name of Troyens). Isn't that correct?

More disturbingly, however, you spend your days pursuing not something that you derive a great deal of enjoyment from, but rather something that you clearly dislike a great deal. Why would a man of your years do that to himself? It's not healthy.

You know, Emporer Snefix at civfanatics was right, going outside and seeing the sun once in awhile might do you some good.

But then again, I fear that your obsessive hatred of Civ III may be the only thing preventing you from walking into your local McDonald's with a semi-automatic assault rifle and opening up.

Very sad indeed! And if this post gets me banned here, well then that's fine too. Someone had to put this obsessive-compulsive looney in his place.

Have a nice day!
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I've come to the conclusion that the whiners care more about their whines than about the game. I found it offensive that they claimed that the patch was their vindication. Now they complain again.


Sometimes I feel sorry. They must have very pitiful lives.



Whiners go here!
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Let me ask you: According to your profile, you were born in 1965? And yet, despite being a 37 year-old, soon to be middle-aged man, you spend your days obsessing over a video game? You average nearly 4 post per day here, and about the same at civfanatics (under the name of Troyens). Isn't that correct?

More disturbingly, however, you spend your days pursuing not something that you derive a great deal of enjoyment from, but rather something that you clearly dislike a great deal. Why would a man of your years do that to himself? It's not healthy.

You know, Emporer Snefix at civfanatics was right, going outside and seeing the sun once in awhile might do you some good.

But then again, I fear that your obsessive hatred of Civ III may be the only thing preventing you from walking into your local McDonald's with a semi-automatic assault rifle and opening up.

Very sad indeed! And if this post gets me banned here, well then that's fine too. Someone had to put this obsessive-compulsive looney in his place.

Have a nice day!



You are SO right!!! And if you get banned from here for this polite but very well pointed reply then I'll go and march for you man!

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Very sad indeed! And if this post gets me banned here, well then that's fine too. Someone had to put this obsessive-compulsive looney in his place.

Have a nice day!
Believe me, some of us have tried, but he keeps coming back and making an idiot of himself. Thank god for the ignore feature is all I can say.
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Sometimes I feel sorry. They must have very pitiful lives.
So my question is: Who is more pitiful, the Whiners or those who whine about the Whiners?
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Awww, come on, people. This thread started with good, light-hearted intentions. Why change it into another brawl?
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So my question is: Who is more pitiful, the Whiners or those who whine about the Whiners?
He's got a point...
but I choose the whiners of course
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He's got a point...
Fair enough, but what about whiner's who complain about fanboys whining about whiners?....whew! Too many links in that blame chain

In the words of a not so great and felonious American philosopher: Can't we all just get along?
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Ah heck, I'm not a Whiner. In fact, I liken myself to Yin in a way. Well, mabye without as many posts.....or repetition of the same arguments.....Ok, nevermind about Yin.

Oh well. The sad truth is that you have your Whiners and you have your Fanboys. Then you have the vast majority of folks in the middle that aren't as vocal as the 20 people hurling insults back and forth that have nothing to actually do with the game, nor changing it.

Could we all get along? Sure. But where's the fun in that?
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So my question is: Who is more pitiful, the Whiners or those who whine about the Whiners?
The Whiners(tm) because not only do they have empty lives, they can't read even a whole post.
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You are SO right!!! And if you get banned from here for this polite but very well pointed reply then I'll go and march for you man!

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Damned right! The Man's been stickin' it to us for too long!

We've had civil rights marches, million man marches, and even the march of the wooden soldiers! Why not a million Fanboy march?

Ah, I can just smell all that tear gas now..
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Fair enough, but what about whiner's who complain about fanboys whining about whiners?....whew! Too many links in that blame chain


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In the words of a not so great and felonious American philosopher: Can't we all just get along?
Ok, I say:"WHY NOT!! "



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Damned right! The Man's been stickin' it to us for too long!
Ah, I can just smell all that tear gas now..
YEEHAA!!
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