So are workers broken now or what? What am I doing wrong?

Kilroy_Alpha · February 19, 2002, 20:32

It seems that since the last patch, all the worker shortcuts have been changed, and maybe some of the commands don't work anymore. Maybe a list would be helpful...

I thought shift+a was supposed to automate your workers but forbid them from altering existing improvements. Well I mine a few grasslands, hit shift+a and then my worker immediately proceeds to irrigate said grasslands. WTF???

crtl+shift+I seems to work as intended, but some workers I'd like to have roaming my entire civ...

It's little stuff like this that totally ruins the game for me. If I can't find a way to properly automate my workers, well, that kills the game completely. I hate managing each and every worker.

Dis · February 19, 2002, 21:58

they felt like shortcut keys were giving an advantage to the human player over the AI allowing them to beat the game at a level higher than warlord, therfore they eliminated all shortcut keys

dnassman · February 20, 2002, 01:15

Hope this isn't true. Can anyone else confirm this? I have yet to load the patch.

Todd Hawks · February 20, 2002, 02:09

Of course it is not true.

And shift-A works fine for me.

Kilroy_Alpha · February 20, 2002, 06:45

What was happening was I had a grassland mined right next to one of my cities, and when I shift-A'ed the worker on that tile he immediately started irrigating. What I think may be happening is that workers place a higher priority on irrigating to city than they do on not changing the landscape when you tell them not to (off with their heads). I've started a new game since then (on the same map) and it hasn't been a problem. Weird.

Oh, and Mr "Todd Hawks," I can assure you this did happen. Next time try contributing to the thread in which you post.

Bill9999 · February 20, 2002, 07:29

I will confirm that in my post patch games I have seen workers assigned with the Shift-A shortcut HAVE altered previous improvements. I have been trying to figure out why, and I have not seen any pattern to it, they will not change land around a city who is starving, but randomly it will change the improvement, in my experience, always a mine to irrigation.

I really hadn't seen it enough to upset me, only a couple of times, I have also noticed they seem to set pollution cleanup higher on their priority list

Bill9999

Be Quicker · February 20, 2002, 10:08

Some of my shift-A workers also randomly start altering existing improvements.

But this was already before 1.17f.

Todd Hawks · February 20, 2002, 10:20

First of all: My comment about "not being true" was directed at Dissidents post about all shortcuts having been eliminated by Firaxis.

So I apologise if you felt attacked by this. Maybe I should have made clearer what I meant.

And as I said: Shift-A does seem to work correctly in my games. Although I have to say that I don't check every turn what my workers have done. If it does screw up sometimes then this happens not often enough for me to notice.

Be Quicker · February 20, 2002, 10:21

No worries. Maybe my keyboard is FU.

ACooper · February 20, 2002, 10:34

Shift-A works as it's supposed to for me. I know it don't help, but that's the way it is on my machine.

Zachriel · February 20, 2002, 14:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Todd Hawks
Of course it is not true.

And shift-A works fine for me.

I have hundreds of workers on shift-A. All are working properly. (Occassionally, I have noticed an errant one, but that is probably due to my weak shift-finger.)

Soren Johnson · February 20, 2002, 15:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Kilroy_Alpha
What was happening was I had a grassland mined right next to one of my cities, and when I shift-A'ed the worker on that tile he immediately started irrigating. What I think may be happening is that workers place a higher priority on irrigating to city than they do on not changing the landscape when you tell them not to (off with their heads). I've started a new game since then (on the same map) and it hasn't been a problem. Weird.

Correctly observed. The automate function will try to do an "irrigate to" for the city if the city is not already next to irrigation/river/lake. However, I forgot to turn that off for shift+A. Will be fixed...

Willem · February 20, 2002, 17:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Soren Johnson Firaxis

Correctly observed. The automate function will try to do an "irrigate to" for the city if the city is not already next to irrigation/river/lake. However, I forgot to turn that off for shift+A. Will be fixed...

So Soren, this off topic, but I have a couple of questions regarding the fix about government buildings.

Does this mean that a gov specific building no longer functions when you change to some other form?

If so, does this also include culture?

korn469 · February 20, 2002, 19:20

in the chat soren said the building was completely ignored, so i'm guessing that means culture too

but an answer from soren would be nice

Thrawn05 · February 21, 2002, 10:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Todd Hawks
Of course it is not true.

And shift-A works fine for me.

Shift A works for me. In fact, I think after the patch they work even better! I saw about six workers working on a single tile! This is great.