Max 2 topic-starts per day/person. Vote yes/no

Ralf · December 14, 2000, 17:38

We can post as many topic-responses as we like, but please, cant we, from now on, constrict ourselfes to MAX 1-2 topic-starters per day/person?

Some of us have not english as our native language, which means producing a lengthy post, sometimes takes hours. One half-hour later, 3-4 guys produces 3-4 short topic-starters each, and by that monopolize a large part of the main first page.

Its all about showing a little consideration.

Yog-Sothoth · December 14, 2000, 17:49

I agree, if everyone would think twice before starting a topic, and instead of posting 4-5 short ones they could make one which they put a little more work into, this place would be a lot more enjoyable.

Diablo, Bro. of Mephisto · December 14, 2000, 18:04

I also agree, with me, yes.

Deity Dude · December 14, 2000, 18:09

sounds good to me. besides you catch alot less hell replying than posting.

Grrr · December 14, 2000, 20:19

I agree, but think there should be an overseeer of the posts, who removes ones which have already been discussed. Like mine, (apologies)

DarkCloud · December 14, 2000, 21:28

No, this limits creativity.

S. Kroeze · December 14, 2000, 22:49

quote:

Originally posted by Ralf on 12-14-2000 04:38 PM
We can post as many topic-responses as we like, but please, cant we, from now on, constrict ourselfes to MAX 1-2 topic-starters per day/person?

Some of us have not english as our native language, which means producing a lengthy post, sometimes takes hours. One half-hour later, 3-4 guys produces 3-4 short topic-starters each, and by that monopolize a large part of the main first page.

Its all about showing a little consideration.

Dear Newbies,

Welcome all!

I completely agree with Ralfs' proposal. I do not think that his proposed limit of one (or two) new topic(s) a day is unreasonably restrictive. You may depend on it that almost every topic has been discussed many times before; so some repeating of old topics is inevitable indeed nor is it necessarily a bad thing. Yet it is also quite possible to search for an old thread covering a subject you want to make some comments about. It just takes some searching and reading! And I guarantee there are some forgotten gems among those old threads.

It is still possible to make contributions which by other users are considered valuable. I have hardly ever posted a new topic thread myself: only once in this Forum and one thread in the Off-topic Forum, which was deleted within ten minutes! Fortunately such tyrannical behaviour is rather exceptional on this Forum. Yin26 is truly kind and clement.

So please show some consideration and all will be contented. The CivIII Forums were allways the most interesting of Apolyton. Personally I preferred the List Forum and I still regret its demise. But we have had excellent and truly intelligent discussions here too!

I'll make some links to some of my favourite threads:
SE MODELS v3.0 ; this will allways remain my favourite thread
RADICAL IDEAS(ver2.0)
Civil Wars in CivIII
How to portray the rise and fall of great powers in Civ3
New poll: Number of civs
civ3 to include a full set of nationalities
The ultimate ICS thread: analysis and solutions
***TECH TREE***: "Master List"

Best wishes!

S. Kroeze

P.S.:Perhaps DarkCloud could make links to my favourites in his 'related thread'? Thank you!
[This message has been edited by S. Kroeze (edited December 14, 2000).]

Tiberius · December 15, 2000, 02:01

YES, I agree.

Ferdi · December 15, 2000, 03:22

I totaly agree with you Ralf! I come here every day to see what is new on this forum and I have to say that it is very annoying to be forced to read many flat threads.

We have already covered the entire subject (see the list and forum archives) and it would be very interesting to develop more deeply old or new ideas as you do so well.
I think that Firaxis has already done the groundwork of civ3 so new/old "light ideas" would not bring something very usefull.
Give your favor to quality not quantity!

rremus · December 15, 2000, 03:54

Definetly NO.
Rude posters than start 10 threads with same subject on a day can be reminded that is a question of netiquette. Maybe a reminder on the Post New Topic page?
But why restrict posters than are 'on fire' and actually have 5 different ideas today?
Dear civers, please remeber that, even in civ, the martial law is an option only under non-democratic governments!

BTW, you should consider that this forum is one the largest here, at Apolyton. Maybe it's time to be split in sub-topics.
[This message has been edited by rremus (edited December 15, 2000).]

Grumbold · December 15, 2000, 07:00

I'm all for a 'think before you post' motto but can't see a rigid rule being practical. I'd rather have an admin who was prepared to tidy up null threads.

Ralf · December 15, 2000, 11:15

quote:

Originally posted by rremus on 12-15-2000 02:54 AM
Definetly NO.
Rude posters than start 10 threads with same subject on a day can be reminded that is a question of netiquette.

That isnt MY definitation of "rude posters", rremus. Such behaviour would only be non-logic and absurd. WHY should anyone in their right mind want to start 10 threads on the same subject, on one single day?

quote:

But why restrict posters than are 'on fire' and actually have 5 different ideas today?

Why should posters thats "on fire" feel restricted?

He can post all these 5 short ideas under one or two threads, cant he? My "grief-factor" post, for example, could easily be splitted into 3 topic-starters.
But i choosed instead to post them all under ONE thread instead. Now, if I can do that - why cant you?

Also; he can also choose to spread them out, and instead post some of them, on days then he ISNT "on fire".

Infact, wouldnt that be a far better approach if one really want maximal exposure? If you post 5 different topics on one day - doesnt that means that these 5 topics actually competes with each other in a negative way, over fellow Apolyton-member attention?

quote:

Dear civers, please remeber that, even in civ, the martial law is an option only under non-democratic governments!

Dont you think you overreact a little here

All i want with this topic is to appeal to some basic common sence, here. I DONT want censorship either, rremus. Rest assured.
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Tical_2000 · December 15, 2000, 20:49

I'm gonna have to say NO on this one. This forum is suddenly becoming too anti-newbie. If you don't like looking at new, flat threads all the time, wait a couple of days until a discussion gets going, then go in. I personally enjoy reading everyone's ideas no matter how many times they've been discussed or how stupid they are...cough...real-time civ thread...cough.

-The Ticalian Stallion

DarkCloud · December 15, 2000, 20:54

Yes, this forum is becoming too anti-newbie.
I agree with you Tical- except you should read the RTS post fully, or at least the second page of it to get the idea,

Ralf · December 16, 2000, 01:42

quote:

Originally posted by Tical_2000 on 12-15-2000 07:49 PM
This forum is suddenly becoming too anti-newbie. If you don't like looking at new, flat threads all the time, wait a couple of days until a discussion gets going, then go in.

OK - HURRAY for more new flat threads, then!! And, yes - anyone else who dont like this development it is of course "anti-newbie".

And to hell with below argument:

"Some of us have not english as our native language, which means producing a lengthy post, sometimes takes hours. One half-hour later, 3-4 guys produces 3-4 short topic-starters each, and by that monopolize a large part of the main first page.

Its all about showing a little consideration."

What the heck is "anti-newbie" got to do with it?

Its just common sense: Didnt you two guys read below?

Also; he can also choose to spread them out, and instead post some of them, on days then he ISNT "on fire".

Infact, wouldnt that be a far better approach if one really want maximal exposure? If you post 5 different topics on one day - doesnt that means that these 5 topics actually competes with each other in a negative way, over fellow Apolyton-member attention?

yin26 · December 16, 2000, 02:48

S. Kroeze,

Thankfully I've hardly ever had to close or delete posts!

But, yes, I try as hard as possible to let things here run a natural course. I get no pleasure from showing I can shut things down.

Ralf and All:

As for this post, I'd like to offer this suggestion: If anybody here feels that a certain person is posting too many new threads in such a way that it detracts from the board, please send me an email:

namk26@hotmail.com

Hopefully I will already have seen the problem and mailed the person in question. Otherwise, I will take your complaint into consideration.

Overall, though, I think we should encourage new people to post. This can be taken to an extreme, however, when one person begins to flood the board. So other than that, let's be friendly and helpful as we wait for the greatest TBS game ever made.

Yin

rremus · December 18, 2000, 03:55

quote:

Originally posted by Ralf on 12-15-2000 10:15 AM
My "grief-factor" post, for example, could easily be splitted into 3 topic-starters.
But i choosed instead to post them all under ONE thread instead. Now, if I can do that - why cant you?

If I wouldn't read this post, I wouldn't know that the 'grief factor' thread has other ideas, Ralf. I don't have time to read all the topics so I must browse the titles to see if is any that is promising to become interesting or is a subject I feel important. That's why I support to let the posters start more than 2 topics. Otherwise, one would have to put a title like 'Some ideas I have about civ' or 'Tech Tree, City size, Units mobility, Map shape, Role of commerce in military and Obsolete wonders'.
Do you think that's OK?
Regards,
Remus

raingoon · December 18, 2000, 04:41

I think everything would be find if everyone coming to the forums were greeted with the following reminder:

"Those who do not learn from previous posts are doomed to repeat them."

Jeje2 · December 18, 2000, 08:46

My vote goes to Yin26.

Let's give the newbies a try of inventing something new.
(Oldies: We can give links to related threads then or then again maybe not.)

Ex. I personally was quite pleased with the newest version of Refugees discussion, altough i didn't bring anything completly new to the topic it locked at it from a little different wiev.

orange · December 18, 2000, 17:32

nah, don't make more rules. Just use common sense people, and if a newbie is posting to much, just send them a PM or E-mail about it

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Diablo, Bro. of Mephisto · December 18, 2000, 22:24

What the hell, this thread has turned into a question of if newbys should post or not!!! The mure question was if we should start more then 2 threads a day or not, if you have more then 2 ideas in your head, wait till tomorrow to post them. even though many of you may think contrary

, I do like to hear what newbys have to say, because new ideas pop up every day.

p.s. dont post a thread unless its got some meaning in it. I hate it when this page gets crowded with peoples stupid, skin-deep threads, when my good, discussing threads gets kicked off the page.