My Apologies to all Folks including YIN

Grandpa Troll · December 24, 2000, 00:48

I have apparently been out of line in voicing my "OFF-COLOR" comments concerning certain races and civilizations. I by no means meant this to be so offensive..I apologize and will promise to not be vocal and Off-color in these forums anymore.

I also meant no disrespect, although I did get Ticked off at Yin, but he was doing his job and I wont be voicing my emotions in such a manner again in these forums.

I think Civilizations Series Games RULE. I cut my teeth on Playstation CIV 2. Ever since I have been playing and learning so much.

I am 41 and have seen the error of my ways.

Have a Merry Christmas and ...

YIN...

Keep up the Great Work

Troll......

headed back under my bridge.........

yin26 · December 24, 2000, 03:47

Troll,

Well, I can see that you sound sincere. Just so you know, I have a long history here of doing almost nothing in the way of censoring or closing threads. I try to stay hands-off and only step in on things like curse words (Apolyton policy) and foundless personal attacks (though heated debates on relevant topics are fun).

Finally, since racist remarks have no business here whatsoever, I am glad you won't share such comments with us here anymore. Thanks for your understanding, and now maybe we can focus on a common cause:

CIV 3!!!

Grandpa Troll · December 24, 2000, 21:43

[Extending Hand in friendship]

Commrades...we have a new treaty sworn..and yet have learned a new lesson..

Humbleness

To all a Merry Christmas

Troll

Kumiorava · December 26, 2000, 03:31

*Kumi wipes tears out of eyes*

A beautiful friendship in formation. Touching...

The Joker · December 26, 2000, 09:11

Playstation??!???!

Ban him!!!

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MacUser · December 27, 2000, 11:12

quote:

Originally posted by The Joker on 12-26-2000 08:11 AM
Playstation??!???!

Ban him!!!

Worse yet, force him to wait for the Mac release of Civ3!!

Hmmm....Troll....that wouldn't be a DL , would it?

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Grandpa Troll · December 27, 2000, 11:41

quote:

Originally posted by MacUser on 12-27-2000 10:12 AM
Worse yet, force him to wait for the Mac release of Civ3!!

Hmmm....Troll....that wouldn't be a DL , would it?

I'm not sure what a "DL" is..but ya'll see..I had to crawl..before I could walk..and walk before I could Run..now..Im off running to play more Civ series..awaiting CIV III...and yes..I am a new person..soon..Troll-War-Monga will be a thing of memories past and Peaceable-Troll..will dot the forums with positive non-insulting-Non-Confrontational..but some thought provoking responses/inquiries..just not any insults or slurs..only well intended remarks..with the best intentions of heart!

BTW..I play CTP:2..and played a lot of CTP:1..and I look foreward to CIV III..I love it where the units were automicatally upgraded...

Merry Christmas..soon Happy New Year!

Troll

Kumiorava · December 27, 2000, 16:51

quote:

Originally posted by Troll on 12-27-2000 10:41 AM
BTW..I play CTP:2..and played a lot of CTP:1..

I hope you do this with an actual computer (if you wish to call a Windows box that

) and not some kooky konsole. It's just not natural to do TBS with a Play Station controller!

Steve Clark · December 27, 2000, 17:31

...or to view units on a TV screen with its gaudy colors and ultra-low resolution. Why people play any strategy games on a console is beyond me.

Grandpa Troll · December 28, 2000, 01:00

quote:

Originally posted by Kumiorava on 12-27-2000 03:51 PM
I hope you do this with an actual computer (if you wish to call a Windows box that

) and not some kooky konsole. It's just not natural to do TBS with a Play Station controller!

Ill be nice..(Asking Yin to Listen carefully!!..J/K)

I have an Athlon 700 256 Ram NVIDIA GeForce 256 32 Bit Graphics Card on which I play my games..Compaq 5900Z I was saying I cut my teeth on Playstation version of Civ 2..and graduated to PC versions..~sigh~..hope you all got it then....

Troll

yin26 · December 28, 2000, 01:13

Hey, nice computer! (nice response, too

). I'm still using a P2 450...but I made sure when I bought it to have plenty of ram and a dedicated C drive just for Windows (all games etc. go on the D drive) to keep things working for a while. As of yet, RTS games work just fine...though high-end 3D stuff is going beyond my meager system's abilities.

Kumiorava · December 29, 2000, 00:45

My box can't do much 3D either - I still haven't given up my old 8mb ATI. Not that I really care, since Civ2 and Freeciv are the only games I play. The dual P3 800EB's on a Epox D3VA mb and 384MB of PC133 RAM let me compile the Linux kernel pretty fast, though. And I can listen to MP3's, leave my GIMP session running, and post on Apolyton while the make crunches away without making my system lag like Q3A over a 28.8K connection.

Jeje2 · December 29, 2000, 03:18

First I must ask Yin to apologize me for what I will tell next. (Sorry Yin, I just can't resist the temptation to tell this

)

Troll, nice to read about the change for better.

Next I'll try to make Yin a lesser god by telling my memories of him to you.

Those of you who were surfing already when www.alphacentauri.com had it's own forums might still remember Yin at early days. I am not quite sure when Yin started to post, but what I do remember from the early days is that he was sharing his opinions. (I got in his line of fire once and intend not to get a second time, except this time

) Personally back then I disliked his writing style.

Then, I think it was Yin's idea, Yin organised a petition for Firaxis on five must important things that had to be corrected in the next bugfix of SMAC. I still don't know what then had happened to Yin, but I liked the change a lot. Even he's writing style became friendlier. (Care to explain Yin?

)

When CivIII was announced, Yin was asked to organise a wish list and just look at what happened under his supervision? (500+ pages) So Yin has earned his position and respect the hard way, even mine, after a not so great beginning.

So Troll I'll be locking forward to reading your writing's.
And there is hope, ... even for people like us...

Yin: Hope I didn't upset you too much and PLEASE do remember to be extra careful with fireworks

[This message has been edited by Jeje2 (edited December 29, 2000).]

Grandpa Troll · December 29, 2000, 11:08

You see..Birds of a Feather..Flock Together..Passion is what fuels my etchings of emotional outflow..and I will be an additional.."Entertainer"..and "Informer of Low sought after opinions"..Heh Heh Heh..but yes..I understand where Rage and Emotion comes from...I am 41 and intend to be a Positive influence....

[Squeezing shoulder of Yin]

MY NEW BUDDY..!

Ya'll have a Great Day..Im Off to Work Again..look foreward to chatting and posting in New Year with all!!

Troll

Kumiorava · December 29, 2000, 14:52

quote:

Originally posted by Troll on 12-29-2000 10:08 AM
[Squeezing shoulder of Yin]

MY NEW BUDDY..!

Come on! Squeeze a little harder, man. I want to see what happens when you dislocate his shoulder.

yin26 · December 29, 2000, 20:43

LOL!

Well, of course Jeje2 has made tremendous additions to this and other forums, so I'll choose my words carefully.

He is right, though. A few years ago I thought the only way to get people to listen to you on the Internet was to make a spectacle of yourself. Actually, I sort of assumed a the dark role of the guy who tries to keep the gaming company "in line."

Then I realized how much more satisfying (if not a whole lot more work) to try something more productive like bug/wish lists. So while I don't get much attention anymore (which is good, come to think of it), I'd like to think that I've played an important part in gathering useful feedback for Firaxis to consider.

Well, thanks for the memories, JeJe! Finally, Troll, I know what it's like to post inflammatory stuff...and then to seek redemption. =)

Grandpa Troll · December 30, 2000, 00:35

This here forum Aint doing nothing but Looking up fer me!!

Ahh..now..to await Civ 3............soon I hope....

Troll

Kumiorava · December 30, 2000, 01:17

Awww... Isn't it great to feel special?

Jeje2 · December 30, 2000, 08:12

quote:

Originally posted by yin26 on 12-29-2000 07:43 PM
Actually, I sort of assumed a the dark role of the guy who tries to keep the gaming company "in line."

Then I realized how much more satisfying (if not a whole lot more work) to try something more productive like bug/wish lists.

Well Yin26,
now that you have the possibility to glance at it in retrospect. Which way do you consider to be more effectiv?

(I know my answer and like it a lot

)

P.S. Have to disagree on your first sentance though

yin26 · December 30, 2000, 08:19

Well, I have let this thread go too long. Thanks Troll for the understanding and Jeje for the memories. (...and everybody else for putting up with this thread the past couple days...)