Concept Wonders

DarkCloud · December 26, 2000, 18:40

Perhaps in Civ III there should be a group of new wonders (7) that are all 'concepts' they were
never truly built in the real world, but were supposedly going to be the greatest of all.

The List-
Tower Of Babel (gives an extra citizen to the city who builds it; immigration to get more workers)
?

Taurus · December 26, 2000, 18:45

It could be a good idea, but I am having difficulties in finding any more examples of such a thing (does AIDS cure count?).

Pangaea · December 26, 2000, 19:32

Maybe such advances as Homer's "The Illiad" or "The Odyssey" which bring happiness +technology bonus' to the civ that builds it....

or "The Spice Routes" which bring extra trade/unit seeing bonus' and/or make explored areas not "grey" but always veiwable..

thats just a few, if we're only talking about ancient, ancient wonders

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orange · December 27, 2000, 00:17

I'm sticking with my guns. Too many wonders as is. Though to contribute to this thread in a positive way, how about the Fountain of Youth?

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DarkCloud · December 27, 2000, 16:17

Some people misunderstood this-

It is for Wonders never built, but conceived and planned to be built or rumored to have been built

However thank you for the Fountain of Youth suggestion, perhaps a City of Gold would be worthwhile as well, (El Dorado)

-No I do not think AIDS wonder counts because it is more of a technology and not a wonder.

Dr.Oogkloot · December 27, 2000, 20:08

DarkCloud, here's my edited wonders list that I use in my games...it may or may not be useful (some are too fantastic)

Pyramids, 20, 0, Mas,
Hanging Gardens, 20, 0, Pot,
Colossus, 20, 0, Bro,
Lighthouse, 20, 0, Map,
Great Library, 30, 0, Lit,
Holy City, 30, 0, Mys,
Great Wall, 30, 0, Mas,
Count Dracula's Castle, 30, 0, Feu,
Hovering Island, 30, 0, Eng,
Mu Statues, 20, 0, Tra,
Mystical Chapel, 40, 0, MT,
Star Observatory, 30, 0, Ast,
Voyage Around the World, 40, 0, Nav,
Polar Journey, 30, 0, Med,
Time Machine, 40, 0, Inv,
Voyage to Beyond, 40, 0, The,
Discovery of Atlantis, 40, 0, ToG,
Philosopher's Stone, 40, 0, Eco,
Journey to Earth's Core, 40, 0, RR,
Ruler Transformation, 40, 0, Dem,
Space Gun, 30, 0, SE,
Fountain of Youth, 60, 0, Ind,
Perpetuum Mobile, 60, 0, E2,
Doomsday Device, 60, 0, NF,
Global Conspiracy, 60, 0, Cmn,
Interstellar Voyage, 60, 0, SFl,
The Internet, 60, 0, Cmp,
Human Cloning, 60, 0, Gen,

hHydro · December 27, 2000, 20:26

Count Dracula's Castle, hmmm? Alright.. I'll bite... (ouch. bad pun.)

Seriously though.. Some of those wonders sound cool in a fantasy-world sort of way... but I just *have* to know what benefit a civ get's by having the Count's castle.

weird god · December 27, 2000, 22:17

maybe units heal when they attack and bite the enemy

Dr.Oogkloot · December 28, 2000, 19:20

I replaced Sun Tzu's academy with Count Dracula's Castle because I had to find some place for it (thought it would be nice to have it as a wonder), and wasn't the historical Dracula a warlike king?

hHydro · December 28, 2000, 19:52

Oh! you just changed the name then, but kept the attributes the same. That's still alright. I love what I've read on Sun Tzu's theories, so I would never have made the change, but thanks for explaining it.

Sirotnikov · December 28, 2000, 20:26

How about "The Testimony Scribes"?

It could give: +30% law and order, +10% wisdom, -20% freedom, +40% morality

or maybe book of the dead

hHydro · December 29, 2000, 01:58

or else defending units in that city get +100% vs all ground units except torch-and-pitchfork-weilding peasants.

No seriously... Dr. Oogkloot... where are you???

Dr.Oogkloot · December 29, 2000, 19:28

hHydro, I kept the attributes for everything the same, I didn't mean to include them but it was easier with the copy/pasting

zyxpsilon · December 30, 2000, 00:28

Howard Hughes's 'wooden plane' that never flew!!

I heard he ran out of money before he could fit the necessary engines to lift it off the ground.

eNo · December 31, 2000, 01:38

Concept wonders is an interesting idea. The thing is that they tend to be cultural things and therefor would be more appropriate if they were "researched" instead of built. Kind of like dead-end mini-techs with short term bonuses.

The Illiad and The Odyssey - increased happiness for "x" turns

Fount of Youth and El Dorado - units get increased site radius when exploring new territory representing eagerness to find legendary places. Or part of the map is revealed.