Beyond Alpha Centauri::: Discussion Thread 3 - Page 10

History Guy · April 3, 2002, 09:42

Kaaaaaasssssssss!!! You wouldn't do that would you?? I'd have to sneakily and stealthily send a planet buster at Earth in the meantime if you did that!!

Kassiopeia · April 3, 2002, 09:51

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Originally posted by History Guy
Kaaaaaasssssssss!!! You wouldn't do that would you?? I'd have to sneakily and stealthily send a planet buster at Earth in the meantime if you did that!!

Maybe I should reconsider; a full pause of two months might make me seem uninterested in BAC.

Btw, that planet buster would never pass the Andromeda Protectors:

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It is to be remarked that there is a very rare variant of the Andromeda Command Ship. There are only three of these Andromeda Protectors, which are the fastest warships serving the Coalition with a maximum speed of .22 lightyears per hour. These three vessels are commanding, along with three regular Andromedas, the six Battle Squadrons forming the final line of defense on Earth and it's Moon and are used as a quick response reserve force should a LINK Code One Defensive Emergency END LINK take place.

And even if they failed, the Orbital Defence Grid would at least stop them.

Edit: Anyone know a dashing-sounding variation/conjugation of the word Protect; in Latin if possible?

History Guy · April 3, 2002, 12:23

Grunt! Kassiopeia, looking forward to your post. Beware our orbital cannons, OK? Whoooops...why am I telling you, you're the enemy!!

Orbital Defense Grid? Man! You Terrans have everything!

Latin:

Protector-- tueri, protegere, defendere, custodire
Protection-- praesidium, tutela
Protector-- defensor, patronus

Sprayber · April 3, 2002, 13:57

Gee. I guess everyone is bound and determined to have a human wide war.

One problem that will come up is that of the PKs. They are a large player in the human systems. I can see the Gaians and Cyborgs staying out of it, but the PK are just too big of a player to remain silant especially since they lie between everyone that is fighting. The Terrans should remember that even though the PK may be democratic and peace loving they won't allow the Terrans to become too large. I would bet even Yang figures that he will have to fight then eventually.

Cybergod · April 3, 2002, 14:09

KASS!!!

We have sent you not one but TWO messages and are in the process of returning the Terran prisoners. But what do we get in return??? Nothing...

Sorry, but I just couldn't resist lashing out...

History Guy · April 3, 2002, 14:13

Sprayber, concerning Guardian, I PMed him a few hours ago. I'll tell you when I get another response. He at first said that he could only do this rarely and that if you find another guy to do it that'd be fine with him, or that maybe he could make "guest appearances" every so often. I PMed him a few minutes back, and so I'll tell you what he says!

Kassiopeia · April 3, 2002, 15:22

Oh, thanks History. I won't start studying Latin until this August, I am afraid.

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Originally posted by Cybergod
KASS!!!

We have sent you not one but TWO messages and are in the process of returning the Terran prisoners. But what do we get in return??? Nothing...

Sorry, but I just couldn't resist lashing out...

Hey, cut me some slack here! Mah post is goin', it's goin'!

Ok, some things to note:

About Sym.

I didn't have time to finish my part on him yet - so please, don't post anything about him, not until I'm done with him.

Btw, if you can't find him in the post, too bad.

About Battle of Samnos

I was thinking - now the ECSN is in place - so what about the Hive comes in now?

Also, I believe I have responded to any possible message. I have declared war on the MI, officially, and the Conclave.

The Novan clan shall be next in line, aye?

Ok, going to post the darn thing...

Sovereign · April 3, 2002, 15:32

Guys, I probably won't be able to post until the weekend, or next week. My father is visiting me and it has been kind of hectic lately.

BTW today's my birthday!

This morning I went to the mirror and checked my hair and found a single gray strand of hair. And I'm 20!

Anyway, expect a PM, FC and Lonestar.

I'd like to try and make amends or try to reach an understanding with Ian, that I had no intention of invading his systems, and that I had no idea about Protectorate's policies or even its existence until they fired on me first. Hopefully University can stay at peace with Protectorate without further aggression.

Kassiopeia · April 3, 2002, 15:52

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Originally posted by Sovereign
Guys, I probably won't be able to post until the weekend, or next week. My father is visiting me and it has been kind of hectic lately.

Well, I'm having several exams in a week's time, so don't expect anything big from me either.

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BTW today's my birthday!

Congratulations!

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This morning I went to the mirror and checked my hair and found a single gray strand of hair. And I'm 20!

...or not?

Lonestar · April 3, 2002, 17:15

Kass, as the Protectorate has offered to Morgan Intersteller to mediate the TA/EC-MI/Believers/Saturnia conflict, can I have a Protectorate vessel arrive in the Sol System and reveal/offer to mediate?

Cybergod · April 3, 2002, 18:05

Kass, sorry for lashing out. Forgive me?

But what exactly are Greg and Filkins doing??? And Mr Missym?

He was meant to assume Office Kain's identity! (look at moi's post before the last one) So probably Mr Myssym Kain

So, what exactly do you mean by:

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Because of this, the Coalition wishes that if either one of both of these stations submit to you, the Maya station is emptied of Titanian sympathizers, with the loyal Coalition citizens, infrastructure and operations left for the Coalition to rehabitate.

You can have the Aztec station, however, on the condition that the agricultural hardware and components of our choice be removed and shipped to Maya station.

Please explain it to me here. I do not understand.

I am confused because if you force the Maya station to be emptied of Saturn Kingdom's sympathisers, this suggests ethical "cleaning" of your "territories". We might appeal to TA if you force their "removal" from any station orbiting Titan. And we will not stop any military action their rebel forces might take in case bloodshed breaks out.

And yet you forbid us the rightful ownership of the Saturnian moons??? We will be sending diplomatic teams to discuss our relations in very near future.

Maria Sanchez's plans for the forseable future are:

* Legalise the Kingdom's ownership of the Saturnian territories and moons
* Finish the covert deals with Morgan
* If bloodshed occurs around the SSSH colonies, covertly finance rebelions
* If violence escalates then build up Navies and hire Belters

...( far later)

* Unify the whole Saturn region under the Saturn Kingdom's banner
* Secure the heir to the Saturnian throne by making Nicholas Populos' son her legal heir. BTW his name will be Konstantin
* Open up relations with every other faction and stay out of wars as much as possible
* Encase the Saturn region in the most powerful defences awailable

....(possible exotic plans)
* Finance rebellions on the Jovian moons
* Attack EC's military outposts on the outer planets

I wonder what our relations with the Hive would be throughout all this...

Sprayber · April 3, 2002, 18:06

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Originally posted by History Guy
Sprayber, concerning Guardian, I PMed him a few hours ago. I'll tell you when I get another response. He at first said that he could only do this rarely and that if you find another guy to do it that'd be fine with him, or that maybe he could make "guest appearances" every so often. I PMed him a few minutes back, and so I'll tell you what he says!

History guy. Since the Proctectorate has showed themselves to Morgan is it safe to assume that he will inform Kessel and the Spartans about their existence? Or do we have to find out through other means.

Kass: Kessel is going to send one more message to the Terrans, if there isn't a response then they he will assume that there is war and the next Spartans they see won't be so eager to just talk

Franky and General: Do you guys think that the Spartans aren't listening both around Firaxis Prime and the Cadre's planet?

Don't bet too much on it.

Mellian The Spartans have recently began thinking about bringing the Progenators into human space. Not necessarly as allies but as tools to wreck havoc on the emerging trends that they see. It would be too bad if the Progenators found out that there was a manifold world somewhere near Earth.

Too bad indeed. Hey if the Terrans want a war, then the Spartans will be more than happy to set them up with one. Maybe its time that the Terrans felt Progenator energy weapons.

Cybergod · April 3, 2002, 18:11

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Originally posted by Lonestar
Kass, as the Protectorate has offered to Morgan Intersteller to mediate the TA/EC-MI/Believers/Saturnia conflict, can I have a Protectorate vessel arrive in the Sol System and reveal/offer to mediate?

Hmm... Lonestar what would your relations with my little Kingdom be like? I mean we both have hostile dealings with the Hive now...

::nearly gets hit by a flying keyboard from frankychan::

Phew! That was close...

History Guy · April 3, 2002, 18:21

I don't believe Morgan would see it as prudent to respond to Kass's declaration of war, except to offer peace talks.

Next in the Samnos and Naxos fights...Kass, Franky, will you both converge on Samnos and Naxos simualtenously, or one at a time? Either way, both attacks will cost you, even now my men know of your arrival!!

Kass, what happened to Kvaener? His death scene has a remarkably Morganish ring to it.

Sovereign-- Happy Birthday!!

Cyber-- I know this is kinda odd to ask, but why will the British Popullus have a son named Konstantin? Is the girl Russian or Eastern European? I think that Nicholas, who seems to be a Brit with a Greek last name, would more likely call him 'Constantine'.

Sprayber-- You can assume thus. We will, when we think it prudent, inform you covertly. We hide nothing from our allies.

Frankychan · April 3, 2002, 20:02

Wow! I sign on and I see twenty million new posts!

All you guys are too much! Some pretty funny postings going on here.

Ok let's address ppl

Cybergod- Since our relationship is not officially hostile, I would still be open to Saturnians pledge of non-aggression to Hive forces....for now.

History Guy- All I gotta say is that you make me laugh.

As for Samnos/Naxos, I gotta see...I thought a Hive agent (Officer Shantoi) rescued Mr. Sym from the Saturnian officials, not a member of the Black Shadow organization?.......unless the Shadow's helped the Hive...

Sprayber- I figured that our eternal foes, the Spartans, would have their ear to the ground (so to speak). I remain true to the beginnings of BAC and still consider Kessel our #1 threat. (Remember my PM from waaay back?) All Yang's wheeling and dealing all relates to how the Hive will deal with Sparta.

Sovereign- Happy B-Day! I think that so long as the University does not aid or ally w/the Protectorate, our relationship will remain strong.

Lonestar- Can we postpone our little "disagreement" for later? Right now I cannot keep up w/the posting for Morgan/Cadre/University/Saturn and Spartan dealings. Aaah! Overload!

Silence- Sorry that we haven't spoken in a long time. Will address this later though.

General Tacticus- Hmmm...I do hope that Lysander prevails.

Kass- I think we should start coordinating our "liberation" of Morganic territory pretty soon.

Mr. President- Where are you? Thought you'd be back? Hope yer ok.

As for the Peacekeeper (

) problem. I don't know who the author is now. I do remember Guardian saying he wanted a piece of 'em, but he didn't post anything about 'em. I think we should find a new author or have everyone collaborate on them.

History Guy · April 3, 2002, 20:35

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All I gotta say is that you make me laugh.

Gee, Franky...thanks...sorta...

I wasn't referring to Shantoi as Black Shadow, but Ki, the guy on Titan who gave Sym the information, was. The Black Shadow organization would do little to help the Hive at all. They disapprove of just about everybody...

General Tacitus-- Hey, if you want Ku to come in and meet this Lysander guy, just call us...

I hope Guardian can write for BAC. If some of us need to do part-time Peacekeeper posts, I've several ideas.

Frankychan · April 3, 2002, 20:40

History Guy-

Sorry, my fault. I guess I was thinking wrong.

So, 'Myssym' is stuck huh? I hope he gets to Terra so that our agents there can safely escort him to the protection of Hive space.

Kass, ya didn't address the Morganite 'problem'! Nah, that's all good I think ya did a good post, merging the Mr. Sym sub-character with the Greg and Filkins!

Expect a message from Ambassador Sillk by the end of the day.

I really like the "You started it first".

...so it begins...

Mr. President · April 3, 2002, 21:38

Sorry I haven't checked in, didn't mean to cause anyone concern. The Drone Republic is dropping back into the story very soon; first contact with the Temple's sentience has been written up on my non-internet computer and will be up soon.

Fans of The Hunt should expect new material there soon as well.

No offense to anyone, but does anyone else think the story's leaning a little towards military events? There seem to be very few civilian or even espionage plotlines at the moment.

History Guy, I liked Morgan's little rant! Are you a fan of Greven il-Vec by any chance? ("I will flay the skin from your bones and grind your bones into dust and scatter the dust to the winds. And then you still will not have suffered enough!")

History Guy · April 3, 2002, 23:12

Thanks Franky. When old Sym does get to you guys, I trust you'll make him a very rich man...

Good to hear from you, Mr. President, and looking forward to the next chapter of The Hunt. I think you are right that BAC is too military oriented, and I would like to read more civilian posts, as I don't think they are boring at all. I was thinking of doing one myself soon concerning a casino on Pollux C.

As for Morgan's rant, thanks. I've never heard of Mr. il-Vec, I must confess, but I'm sure that if you find his works to be good I would most probably agree (as it looks like we agree on other books, namely Lord of the Rings!).

Looking forward to blowing up some Terran and Hive ships. You guys don't mind if I take down some frigates, do you?

Sprayber · April 4, 2002, 03:23

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Originally posted by Mr. President

No offense to anyone, but does anyone else think the story's leaning a little towards military events? There seem to be very few civilian or even espionage plotlines at the moment.

I have seen this as well. I have mentioned it a few times but I guess it's hard to maintain intererest without some kind of war going on. I know this sounds strange coming from the guy that picked the Spartans. The Morgan-InEn war was a good idea at the time. But we soon saw that everyone got so involved with it that we soon found ourselves picking sides and going in. At the beginning I kind of envisioned us fleshing out our factions with background before we got involved in major conflicts with each other. Don't get me wrong. War is going to be a major part of a factions history. But I just felt that there seemed to be more of a need to build up to it instead of just jumping in.

Somethings felt as if they were rushed to accomodate the inpending war. (no offense is intended. My writing is very much on my mind when I mention these things. There are many things that I kind of forgot about explaining cause things were moving fast. That and the fact that some personal issues have occured.)

Why exactly has the TA just all of a sudden become dominate when at the first it seemed little more than a loose union.

And why is the EC so humbled into accepting it when they clearly are a dominate part of the TA.

Why does the University seem so eager to drop a very advantagous partnership with Morgan for the chance to buddy up to Yang who they have had no contact with for hundreds of years.

What is it with all those alien races in the Hive anyway. (meaning I would like to know more about them and their roles. Some of the aliens seem more interesting then our deer chairman err, i mean emperor.)

More about the Cadre and its strained relationship with Sparta and the Hives sometimes support of various elements. That looks to be an interesting story. Why exactly did the Cadre break from Sparta and are those issues still there. (stay tuned i guess

I'm just reminded of the fate of the Chiron Chroncles. This was always meant to be a way to be able to expand on the stories, when in CC there was only so much that you could do. Again these are just thoughts of mine.

Guardian · April 4, 2002, 04:01

TA-DAAAA !

Hi guys!

Long time, no see...

I haven't been on much for quite some time now, since I haven't had all that much spare time to sit down and play with my computer and a good chunk of the time that I have had has been spent playing Civ III, but... well, yesterday I was on here for a while and posted some pictures in the Off-Topic forum, History Guy sent me a PM, and... well, here I am!

Now, what I'd like to do is to take some time to read up on the story before jumping into it so I won't just be running blind. I know I've said this before and ended up doing precisely nothing, but... well, I'll try not to let that happen this time!

More later!

Sprayber · April 4, 2002, 05:06

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Originally posted by Guardian
TA-DAAAA !

Hi guys!

Long time, no see...

I haven't been on much for quite some time now, since I haven't had all that much spare time to sit down and play with my computer and a good chunk of the time that I have had has been spent playing Civ III, but... well, yesterday I was on here for a while and posted some pictures in the Off-Topic forum, History Guy sent me a PM, and... well, here I am!

Now, what I'd like to do is to take some time to read up on the story before jumping into it so I won't just be running blind. I know I've said this before and ended up doing precisely nothing, but... well, I'll try not to let that happen this time!

More later!

*rubs eyes* Looks at the visitor *rubs eyes again*

welcome back my friend. Lots of things have happend since your last visit. Tragedies in real life have taken their tolls for a lot of us in the BAC universe, but we go on with the story. It's good to have a familiar face back.

Kassiopeia · April 4, 2002, 05:20

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Originally posted by Lonestar
Kass, as the Protectorate has offered to Morgan Intersteller to mediate the TA/EC-MI/Believers/Saturnia conflict, can I have a Protectorate vessel arrive in the Sol System and reveal/offer to mediate?

Sure, just make sure you are fast when transmitting, the Battle Squadrons there can be quite trigger happy...

Sprayber: Whoopsy-daisy...

Cybergod:

The deal is:

The stations want to Titan, right?

We ship the Titan sympathizers (probably 99.99 % of the pop) from the other station to the other and take the empty station to ourselves. You can have the other station. Sure, it can sound like ethnical cleansing, but it's really just a matter of keeping a foothold down there.

On Greg, Filkins, an Mr. 'Myssym':

Uh, well, maybe Sym wanted to use his imagination?

The idea of fixing them together for a short while was really, really tempting.

But, I assure you, I'll release hold of him soon enough.

History:

Hmm, well, that's what I had in mind...

Of course, it could be someone else, staging the M.I.A.; it would be easy for them to get the blame, as there's full scale shooting war going on anyhow.

Oh, and take some frigates, sure. We wouldn't want to give the false impression of godhood, invulnerability etc.

Battle of Samnos:

The ECSN is now in place, around the First Planet (name of which I didn't want to make up). Maybe now's the time for the Hive to make it's grand appearance? The EC could stand by in awe for a moment as the Hive ships deal out some punishment

and then the Terrans could join in the festivities.

Guardian:

Franky: Well, I was sorta expecting that the Hive get rummaging about it at first; besides, I would expect Samnos be obliterated so that the GHE can have some standpoint in the dialogue.

Ragnarok:

It's the spinoff - sorry if the plug smack middle of the story was kinda blatant.

Frankychan · April 4, 2002, 05:58

Wow, its Guardian! I haven't seen you since 'back-in-the-old-days'!

Just kidding, good to see that your still around!

Addressing Hive xenology.

My website has a brief description on the different alien races...I'll expand on them later when I have the chance. I'll have initial contact history, highlights of the race AFTER or DURING contact with then Chairman Yang, and other facts and tidbits of each race.

I kinda had some idea's running around in my head but haven't had the time to define them yet.

But until then, I'll try and have some small insight on the alien races that are in GHE.

War

The Hive is not at war with any government right now. For the Morganite "encounter", it is a battle-not a war.

For the Hive, War is solely reserved for the Spartans. I thought I was building up tension with the Spartans with my ambassador talking to whatever Spartan-clown his is talking to right now (no offense Spray!)

Other Stuff

Ok Kass Hive goes in first, then the Terrans jump in next...gotcha. Although when I post the battle, the end of my post will have the battle warming up. I don't want to have the Battle of Samnos to have a "glossing-over".

Hope this helps to clarify any misconceptions you all had about what I was doing up to now.

Kassiopeia · April 4, 2002, 06:01

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Originally posted by frankychan
Other Stuff
Ok Kass Hive goes in first, then the Terrans jump in next...gotcha. Although when I post the battle, the end of my post will have the battle warming up. I don't want to have the Battle of Samnos to have a "glossing-over".
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Let's see -

1. Hive post by Franky
2. Terran post by me (I can imagine Drecaille saying: "What the hell?")
3. Morgan post by History, concluding the battle.

'kay?

History Guy · April 4, 2002, 11:50

Sprayber-- Percisely, if this does escalate, I want only Morgan, Kessel, Terra, and Yang involved for a while.

I am going to do a post soon about the Morgan Metropolis complex on Cyrus' number one planet. It is a resort that attracts Morganites and foreigners alike. Besides the breaktaking views from the resort's position atop the highest mountain of any recorded moon or satellite, the seas are quite nice for a dip as well. The moon is 70% water. The resort, Morgan's Hideaway, is home to huge swimming pools and saunas, sports and game buildings, a restaurant/theater, and it's famous casino. A certain Tracking Officer will be paying a visit due to a prolonged holiday granted to him for his meritorius action in revealing the Terran's message to the Hive.

Guardian-- Hey! There you are! Glad you were still interested!

Kass-- Samnos and Naxos are simply two large moons around a small gas-planet known as Crete. The two moons are called the Cycladic Moons. When you attack you will be up against, on Samnos, elite militia units, as well as two squadrons of fighters and one frigate. There is 14 orbital platforms and one orbital cannon. The area is under the command of a Morganite Admiral, now, who plans the defense. There are two governors, instead of one, thanks to Franky, who govern each moon. Naxos is a different story, that is heavily defended.

I can blow up your frigates? Man, I have tears in my eyes now...I can't wait!

Sprayber · April 4, 2002, 13:46

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Originally posted by History Guy
Kass-- Samnos and Naxos are simply two large moons around a small gas-planet known as Crete. The two moons are called the Cycladic Moons. When you attack you will be up against, on Samnos, elite militia units, as well as two squadrons of fighters and one frigate. There is 14 orbital platforms and one orbital cannon. The area is under the command of a Morganite Admiral, now, who plans the defense. There are two governors, instead of one, thanks to Franky, who govern each moon. Naxos is a different story, that is heavily defended.

I can blow up your frigates? Man, I have tears in my eyes now...I can't wait!

Exactly where on the map are these. You guys aren't talking about the So called Morgan coperate sector are you. Don't forget that there are Spartan ships in that area since it is basically cut off from the main Morgan area. That is very close to Gaian and Uni territory.

Kassiopeia · April 4, 2002, 14:17

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Originally posted by History Guy
Kass-- Samnos and Naxos are simply two large moons...

Oh, good to get things cleared on that part... lousy Naval Intelligence

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I can blow up your frigates? Man, I have tears in my eyes now...I can't wait!

Only if I can blow up your cruisers...

Cybergod · April 4, 2002, 17:27

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Originally posted by History Guy
Cyber-- I know this is kinda odd to ask, but why will the British Popullus have a son named Konstantin? Is the girl Russian or Eastern European? I think that Nicholas, who seems to be a Brit with a Greek last name, would more likely call him 'Constantine'.

Anita Delitz was meant to be kinda Hungarian but your suggestion sound even better! It would be Constantin (without the e, he's a British-born Greek who lived on Earth (Britain, his childhood + education time), Mars (most of work-time) and Titan (as a researcher).

Kass - it all seems clear. But you wouldn't mind if sometime in the future we blow Maya up into tiny pieces...

Seriously now - we'd agree to the deal if both Aztec and Inca fall into our grip AND we can legalise our ownership of Titan and Rhea (only those for now).

::looks at data on Samnos and Naxos::

Copying my orbital cannons.... tut tut tut

I'll wait until this geat Battle is over (or possibly when no action is taken).

BTW, a couple of questions:

* In what number of posts should Constantin be born?
* When should I post about our probe ships arriving?
* The prison ship from Titan - should I post anything or should I leave it all to Kass

(poor Kass - all this stuff pilled up for him to deal with...

)

Cybergod · April 4, 2002, 17:30

Mr Prez - I like your Temple story!

I am just curious - what are you going to develop it into?