Beyond Alpha Centauri::: Discussion Thread 3

[History Guy]

Amen to that, Franky.

[Mellian]

I'd like to introduce a new element, because humans eventually will "play God" and create lifeforms that may support or may not support the humans. Also I'd like to provide a new perspective and style of "Good vs Evil"... Tell me, how many non-human "Good vs Evil" stories or sub-plots have you guys ever seen? And what about "Good vs Evil" plots about artifical lifeforms? I don't want to portay them as the universal Human killers, Human haters, Slaves, etc.I would like to give a new dimension and new levels of integrity to artifical lifeforms.

WILL play God? well, technicly, we ARE gods more like everybody and everything is ONE god. Anyway, I suggest you be careful with this Good vs Evil plot.... nothing is simply Black and White. I am already thinking about some Droid ideas via the pirates... Okay to have a renegade terrorist droids, but keep their numbers limited and the ability to "reproduce" to the minimum. Keep them as a sub-faction then a complete new faction too please.


-LMP

[Mellian]

Anyway, to Lord MP, please tell me how I should go about contacting the Novans for the proposition I have in mind for them?

hmm, should do a intro post of the Pirates.... introducing the Novans and the Wolverines, while the SPartans lose a Warlock Battlecruiser and the Drones loosing a freighter carrying a shipment of Worker Droids for a Drone operated Spartan ship yard.

How to contact the Novans? via the public Tachyon Comm network the Cyborgs maintain for everybody to use, which is like Comstar in Battletech. Just send a message for the Novans' leader Joe Nova to a Cyborg Comm Center or Comm Array... and they'll eventually get it when they check their messages and reply.

[History Guy]

Kass-- I hope you do stay on.

LordMP-- I'm going to send the Novans something asking whether or not they can shell out some mercenaries to protect a series of mining stations and space stations near the Terran border area. Diplomatically, though, would the Novans be the best mercenaries for Morgan to hire?

[Mr. President]

Say, Mel, I was just reading your Pirate stuff, and I wondered if you had any preferences as to the name of an explorer clan who might be willing to go and take a look at a far-off planet for the Drones. Basically, what's going to happen is that they're finally going to crack the secret of the Temple, and send a party to a planet which turns out to be the (abandoned) homeworld of the Temple's creators. It'd be a joint expedition between the Republic and the clan.

[Cybergod]

OK, I've written my post up, on paper , and I will post tommorow, since

History Guy (plus Kass & Mellian), is it okay:

* Maria sends you a secretly encrypted message suggesting that the war is just official between the two of you and that a small covert ship will aproach you
* Mr Sym is captured
* He is being deported secretly back to Morgan I.

* We send a gesture of friendship to Earth, sending back the captive prisoners, and ask that you hold democratic referendums about independence on all your other colonies in the Saturn region?

Extra:

If you really like Mr. Sym, he could jump ships and escape from our probe ship and board the prisoner ship heading to Earth! He could operate from there!

Plus, about the throne heritage - Maria cannot have children and will wish to settle the next person who comes to rule after her. She wishes that the son of nicholas and Anita be the next King.

OK?

[History Guy]

* He is being deported secretly back to Morgan I.

If you really like Mr. Sym, he could jump ships and escape from our probe ship and board the prisoner ship heading to Earth! He could operate from there!

Here lies my dilemma...If he is deported back to Morgan Interstellar, Morgan will have Ku kill him, thus ridding Franky of the best thing he has against Morgan by way of a link. I suppose he can jump ships, but he has to return to Morgan Interstellar at a later period, or I have to send Mr. Ku out to Earth to get him later and still get Ku back alive. Maybe this second option would be best, though I'd like to hear from Franky and Kass first.

[History Guy]

OK, how's this?

When you post tomorrow, do not include what you will do with Mr. Sym, just that he's caught. Don't inform Morgan Interstellar or anyone else, but debate over what to do with him. I'd like to hear Kass and Franky on what we should do before anything's definant in how we deal with the guy. So do post, but don't include what you do with Sym, OK? Thanks!!

[Frankychan]

History check your PM's!

Well, here's my opinion of Mr. Sym-

I really would not like him to die...I consider him a Morganite minor character (like Kass' bumbling duo).

However, from the start you stated that he would eventually die, so I have to accept his death sooner or later...

I was thinking of offering him an office within the GHE (after careful examination, of course) but since Cyber has something cooking up...that's kewl.

I don't know what Kass has planned though...now that Yang has Morganite data.

[Kassiopeia]

Hi. Thanks for your most kind words.

Like The Eagles put it: "You can always check out put you can never leave".

Just dropping by to read the story to have some basis on the next post. I think I have it pretty much figured out; the Greg & Filkins subplot is coming nice into shape, now I just need some actual story stuff.

* We send a gesture of friendship to Earth, sending back the captive prisoners, and ask that you hold democratic referendums about independence on all your other colonies in the Saturn region?

You can ask, but you can't get.

I'll read the story thread as it is now, and then come back to answer your questions. Because I have only a dim memory of who this Mr. Sym exactly is.

[Cybergod]

Originally posted by History Guy
OK, how's this?

When you post tomorrow, do not include what you will do with Mr. Sym, just that he's caught. Don't inform Morgan Interstellar or anyone else, but debate over what to do with him. I'd like to hear Kass and Franky on what we should do before anything's definant in how we deal with the guy. So do post, but don't include what you do with Sym, OK? Thanks!!

Aw! He will be detained in the Saturnian Command Nexus, and my Forces Marshal Myodin will give him a punch because Sym mumbled loudly "stupid terrans... you think you're so powerful"

Kass, how (un)democratic is Earth?

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Cybergod
Kass, how (un)democratic is Earth?

The Coalition is an establishment of so-called representative or parliamentary democracy. The laws and regulations are motioned by the Cabinet (appointed by leader of winning party of parliamentary elections), and passed by the Parliament.

In military and economical affairs, and in affairs of internal policy, the people have directly very little possibilities. They have to rely on the judgement of their elected officials, especially in terms of appointing apt military directors; like Michael Wakazashi.

The President has little constitutional power, the most powerful person of the faction should be considered to be Elise Drecaille, sharing the pole position with SCMF Wakazashi.

If democratic means personal freedoms, it's as free as any western country by today's standards. Free enterprise, free passage etc. However, with the fear of another Titan happening, especially in terms of colonial states the security is tightening and these ideal freedoms slowly dissipating.

In my next post, I will begin to reflect the shift in Earth politics to a more Police State -like nation.

[History Guy]

Phew! Glad you ain't leaving Kass...

Franky-- Thanks, I intend to sort of develope Sym a bit more in the future (like just about everyone). He has to go someday, but I'll post-pone it to a while in the future. I know now kind of what to do with him. Ku will personally go after him. Maybe when Sym jumps ship (as I think we shall have him do), he can somehow wind up at the Hive, if you like.

Cyber-- Sounds good. Maybe you can imagine to fit in that he's wearing a black suit with a purple tie and that he has something like the mark of Cain on his forehead.

Anyway, looking forward to your posts. Am working on a short one to develope some more characters (i.e. Morgan, Ewell, Carstairs, Ku).

[GeneralTacticus]

History Guy: Are you going to reply to the Cadre message a while ago? You said you'd reply after Kessel did, which is long past...

[Silence]

I was thinking of having a cat and mouse game with my spy ships in Sol for my next post. Would it be alright if I poped a destroyer?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Mellian


hmm, should do a intro post of the Pirates.... introducing the Novans and the Wolverines, while the SPartans lose a Warlock Battlecruiser and the Drones loosing a freighter carrying a shipment of Worker Droids for a Drone operated Spartan ship yard.

Lets not try and rip off the Spartans while I am away shall we.


I think one Warlock stolen from the Spartans is quite enough. The Pirates may be tough but lets try and remember that the Spartans are not novices when it comes to security. It may work once but it won't happen more than once.

Kass. Trust me my friend, life can be hard but you got to keep going.

Everyone: The thread god is still out there. You will never know when he will appear from cyber space and peer at what you demi gods are up too.

[Mellian]

I think one Warlock stolen from the Spartans is quite enough. The Pirates may be tough but lets try and remember that the Spartans are not novices when it comes to security. It may work once but it won't happen more than once.

You shouldn`t assume Just because "lose a Warlock" and "Pirates" is in the same paragraph/post doesn't mean the Pirates will be capturing another Warlock, geez What i mean is, a single Warlock that went off FTLed to where the barely escaped captured Drone Merchant Cruiser made its short FTL jump into deep space outside of the system gets destroyed by the Captured Warlock and escorting Strike Cruisers which FTLed moments later. It is because of assumption that the Spartan Warlock got destroyed, thinking that the Merchant Cruiser is a lone duck after making a small jump, towards a nearby solar system so assumed the FTL must of been damaged and failed. Warlock was able to detect the MC because it was at the edge of its long range sensors, seing the MC just outside of the system.

sooo, will be the Spartans second Warlock loss.... the second more intolerateble then the first. A embarassing lost. Creating the "thats it, the Pirates must go down" attitude. Spartans may be elite soldiers, but they can still be outsmarted.

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

Thanks Sprayber - feeling a lot better now, I hope the same for you too.

Let's see. Writing a post, uh, kinda got stuck. I'll see to it again tomorrow.
However, I do now have a renovated web site - thanks to our dear computer teacher, who decided that the rest of the semester should be spent with HTML.

The address is the same old http://personal.phpoint.net/nortti/bac.htm .

I have friends, of to who I have had difficult time explaining the kinks of this story thingie - thus, I wrote this - What do you think of it?

As always, if there are problems, do tell. The BAC index page might be a pain to load with the pics.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Mellian


You shouldn`t assume Just because "lose a Warlock" and "Pirates" is in the same paragraph/post doesn't mean the Pirates will be capturing another Warlock, geez What i mean is, a single Warlock that went off FTLed to where the barely escaped captured Drone Merchant Cruiser made its short FTL jump into deep space outside of the system gets destroyed by the Captured Warlock and escorting Strike Cruisers which FTLed moments later. It is because of assumption that the Spartan Warlock got destroyed, thinking that the Merchant Cruiser is a lone duck after making a small jump, towards a nearby solar system so assumed the FTL must of been damaged and failed. Warlock was able to detect the MC because it was at the edge of its long range sensors, seing the MC just outside of the system.

sooo, will be the Spartans second Warlock loss.... the second more intolerateble then the first. A embarassing lost. Creating the "thats it, the Pirates must go down" attitude. Spartans may be elite soldiers, but they can still be outsmarted.

-LMP

Hmmm....LMP...A thought....

What about when the Spartans send ships to snoop around Beta Hydri, searching for their lost ships there?

Perhaps the Pirates might be interested in some "contract" work.

[Frankychan]

Lonestar-

You're going to have to explain to me your latest post. And PLEASE lets coordinate Hive-Protectorate interaction.

Mellian-

Well...I've been waiting since the beginning to see you post! I kinda want to see the Pirates point of view on all the recent events going on. As for the little question I asked a looong time ago:

The pirate clans don't care who they get hired out to right? Which was the more brutal clan? The name seems to escape me right now...I may want to hire some out in light of recent events.

Kass-

I tried going to the site but the link wasn't working. What do you propose for Terran-Hive relationship? Please PM me with your thoughts.

Sovereign-

I haven't heard from you in a while...just going to tell you that you can handle the arrival of University ships coming to Hive space with the Skipfire.

To everyone-NO...there aren't any spies on board. They are strictly University citizens only!

History Guy-

Is it alright if I have a couple of Hive agents run some chaos in Morgan territory? Just some small-scale sabotage and low-level assassinations if that's alright w/you. If not, can ya PM me?

Sprayber-

Hope Germany is going good for ya! Don't be drinkin' too much *pouts in jealousy*

Anyway, I'll just boast about the Spartan Federations downfall and the Hive's ascension to greatness! Down with Kessel! Long Live Emperor Yang!!!

Yang! Yang! Yang! Yang!

[GeneralTacticus]

Would it be acceptable to you guys if I moved my faction's establishment (i.e. the seperation from Sparta) back by about 50 years? It's getting a little annyoing knowing I haven't got much of a fleet with having only seven years to build it in...

[Mellian]

Originally posted by History Guy
Kass-- I hope you do stay on.

LordMP-- I'm going to send the Novans something asking whether or not they can shell out some mercenaries to protect a series of mining stations and space stations near the Terran border area. Diplomatically, though, would the Novans be the best mercenaries for Morgan to hire?

Novans total forces is small and not geared for Fleet combat... as they mainly into smaller non-cap ships and various light cruisers/armed transports/merchant cruisers. They do specialize in Gear Combat and Small Ship Combat. Actually, mos pirate fleets are not equip in Fleet Combat... but do specialize in Strike, hit-and-run, pirate, raiding, etc....

after the intro post, the Spartans will know it is Kane's doing and may eventually find out that the Novans were involve.... same with the Drones.... so if the Morganites hire the Novans and the Spartans/Drones discover that they were involve in the attack..and thinking the Novans as some relations with Kane. So, shrugs.... Pirates are not to be trusted ...even if some clans have had a good rep. When the Novans realize the Spartans are after them and so on, they will dissapear..... Kane may also take advantage of the Novans positions if Kane ever gets contacted by the Hive to create some trouble for the Morganites and so on.

-LMP

-LMP

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by frankychan
Lonestar-

You're going to have to explain to me your latest post. And PLEASE lets coordinate Hive-Protectorate interaction.

Nothing to explain, just the Lord Protector Grousing while I think of how to move the story along...

[Frankychan]

Lonestar-

Sorry, I should have explained myself better. I meant the one about the Hive Planet and the Gaian-Protectorate agent.

[History Guy]

Sorry, been gone the past day.

Tacticus-- Whoooops! Sorry, I did mean to post a response. I'll start work on it when I get back from Rockford this afternoon.

Kass-- I couldn't access either of your links.

Franky-- Yeah sure, but don't kill any main characters!! I will get to send in some of Ku's guys to the Hive later...right??

LordMP-- Gaaaaag! You should have told me that before I posted!! I guess we can...ummm...fire them after the incident, without too much diplomatic trouble?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by frankychan
Lonestar-

Sorry, I should have explained myself better. I meant the one about the Hive Planet and the Gaian-Protectorate agent.

I'm not planning on using him until I go over it with you first, don't worry...

[Mellian]

Originally posted by Mr. President
Say, Mel, I was just reading your Pirate stuff, and I wondered if you had any preferences as to the name of an explorer clan who might be willing to go and take a look at a far-off planet for the Drones. Basically, what's going to happen is that they're finally going to crack the secret of the Temple, and send a party to a planet which turns out to be the (abandoned) homeworld of the Temple's creators. It'd be a joint expedition between the Republic and the clan.

out of curiousity, possible to post or atleast PM your ideas concerning the ancient race that abandon that world?

as for preferences as to the name of the current single existing explorer clan... none as i have no idea what to call them You can provide a name generally play them for your plot. Like most clans, best way to reach them is via the public comm network or contact the Nautilus Pirates at Chiron, who usually have a better idea as to where pirate clans are.

-LMP

[Sovereign]

Guys, I'm back!

I've been quite busy the past week, settling in a new routine for a new semester, as well as a lot of meetings. But now that I'm pretty much settled in, and my semester is a breeze now... 3 day weekends from Friday to Sunday ... I'll have tons of time to do more posts and discussions.

Don't worry, the next UCS post is brewing as I'm speaking. Expect it by tonight!


FC, now that I'm back, I'll get the ball rolling with a mighty kick


LMP, I've been thinking about my sub-plot. What I meant by "Good vs Evil" was about Loyal robots fighting Rebel robots... sort of like England vs America in Revolutionary War, or Union vs Confederates... that sort of conflict.

I would like your thoughts on this "Robot civil war"... from everyone, FC, Kass, History, LMP, Lonestar, and so forth...

Also, feel free to give me ideas for what to use for a sub-plot for UCS other than that Robot idea... so if that robot civil war doesn't pan out, I could think up another sub-plot.

Silence, your idea of a HoG assault on UCS territory sounds interesting. I'll keep that in mind, but feel free to give me additional ideas.

I hope I don't get writer's block, not at this critical time


Anyways, I'll cook something up for tonight

[Cybergod]

History - OK! Am posting... now. BTW, I am planning Nicholas' son to have an "Alexander the Great" style future.

Kassiopea, we await your answer!

--Nikola

PS. "To freedom we march!"

Long live our Queen! Long live the Saturn Kingdom!

[Lonestar]

Sovereign

What do I think about a Robt war?

Destroy them! Destroy them before they destroy us!!!