The Struggle for Europe PBEM - Page 12

Case · November 20, 2002, 20:53

Were there units outside the cities?

klesh · November 20, 2002, 20:59

Sure, there were a few tanks that looked as though they were being moved from Wein northward along the road with that city whose name escapes me SE of Dresden. Germany inf standing round north of Berlin as well. All in all, perhaps 4-6 kills.

Kalmer · November 22, 2002, 13:54

Yes, Turkish army is growing!

Grothgar · November 22, 2002, 17:08

Ireland is now under the spannish bootheel, i mean enlightened leadership. Spain would like to make it clear this is not a prelude for an attack, spain would be suicidle to attack the allies.

The ANZAC · November 22, 2002, 19:22

Ampibious assault launched on the Pas-de-Calais.

The ANZAC · November 22, 2002, 19:23

Also Rome has fallen

klesh · November 23, 2002, 13:14

Soviet troops attempt to retake the city after a succesfful German counterattack.

klesh · November 23, 2002, 13:27

The Soviets once again in controol of the German seat of government.

Case · November 23, 2002, 18:55

*cough* Rob you forgot the save *cough*

klesh · November 23, 2002, 20:13

Are you kidding me, I am still working on the turn! Been playing the whole time.

klesh · November 23, 2002, 22:13

Wow, what a pain in the arse that was. General AI switching all my production and I beleive messing with some of my specialist setups. Anyway, Stalin has sent all of the men responsible for these crimes to the new Katyusha firing ranges in the western Urals, they needed some targets.

This month saw the Soviet Union lick its wounds after the Great Officer's Equestrian Pustch was thwarted with ease. Once the horses bodies were bulldozed out of the way, the tanks began to roll once again.

The immediate goal was to recapture Frankfurt, and reopen the gates to Berlin. This was accomplished by a devastating air raid by our heavy bombers on the Veteran Panzers entrenched in the city.

A flight of IL-2s then took to the sky to clear out the masses of German armour to the west of the city, waiting in anticipation of our tanks. Once cleared, the fight for the capital began again. Once again, Spanish fascists met their doom at the hands of our beyonetts. The capital was taken after the destruction of more German tanks.

Vasily Kleshnikov then ordered the immediate area surrounding Berlin to be cleard of hostiles as well. To the west, Magdeberg fell to our troops. To the south, Dresden became another city liberated by bolshevist might. Only Rostok remains as the lone german holdout east of the river Elbe.

In the South, an attack was launched from 3 fronts on the city of Wien. Desparately defended by bunkers, this city was touch to crack. But in doing so, the Soviet forces in the South destroyed an elite SS Panzer Division, believed to be the 'Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler'. The General in command was killed in his command vehicle, but several lesser offiziers were taken prisoner.

-Frankfurt, Berlin, Magdeberg, Dresden, Wien captured.
-Vasily Kleshnikov

klesh · November 23, 2002, 23:33

And here's the updated map.

-FMK.

Case · November 24, 2002, 01:15

That SS Division had recently been renamed the 'Leibstandarte Case'

Marko · November 28, 2002, 09:54

Bastia, Lyon and Besancon taken. Besancon was completely destroyed during the battle.

Sorry that I'm so slow in playing. I can get to the Net only few times per week nowadays

Case · November 29, 2002, 01:23

The German nation is defeated.

Our Armies consist of little more then a few Panzer divisions maned by old men and 16 year olds. While a match for the Allies, it can no longer face the Red Army.

Our fleet, while still as strong as ever, is not capable of stoping the Royal Navy.

Our Air Force has all but ceased to exhist.

In order to avoid further bloodshed, Germany hereby surrenders unconditionally.

Henrik · November 29, 2002, 13:35

I can see a nice cold war situation growing here, all of what is now germany will become DDR...
Or maybe the gmae will just end by everyone being hapily at peace

Darius871 · December 2, 2002, 02:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Henrik
I can see a nice cold war situation growing here

Yes!!! We will march to MOSCOW!!!

klesh · December 2, 2002, 18:40

Who excactly are you surrendering to, Herr Case? You mention in your post that you still have what it takes to fight the Allies. If you are surrendering to me only, then things are obviously different. By surrendering, do you still want to play the game with the remainder of your nation? If not, then are the Soviets, Allies and French supposed to race to gobble up the remainder of Germany. This is of course only relavent if the Allies andFrench and everyone still want to play the game at all? Before I decide what to do, I'll need to know the German situation. Then we can all talk about whats happen with this game.

-Vasily Kleshnikov.

(in semi-unrelated news, I decided to award myself the Order of the Red Star this weekend...Picked tyhis up at a local militaria gathering.)

Darius871 · December 2, 2002, 19:02

It sounded to me like he would just give it to the AI, but what do I know.

klesh · December 2, 2002, 22:30

Well having talked it over with Anzac, it seems that the objective has been met. Germany has surrendered, and peace will now engulf Europe. Therefore I think we can call this one over.

A well played game by all!

So let's all write reviews for the Sleague there, since I think this game is the first to end since St. Leo posted the request.

-FMK.

The ANZAC · December 2, 2002, 23:12

The Allies accept the surrender.

Also we are prepared to write a review and we suggest we unlock the saves so we can inspect each other's handy work.

Marko · December 3, 2002, 04:05

The French accept the surrender too. Vive la France!

My password is Prince3 in the game.

klesh · December 4, 2002, 00:03

Password: SMERSH

heh.

PinkyGen · January 7, 2003, 03:32

I have one question. How did the Soviet player manage to get such a large army so quickly. I tried rushing forces as best as I could, but I didn't get anything decent until mid 1941, and by then, the Germans had reinforced the east and soon launched their offensive, destroying all those nice shiny tanks.

Henrik · January 7, 2003, 10:21

Why don't you download the old games and check for yourself, you have the password (as it is in the post above)

klesh · January 7, 2003, 18:26

It was really quite easy Pinky:

On turn one I traded technologies with the French player to attain Mass Production. However, Mass Production is also the tech the Soviets are researching from the start. This means that I am then able, on turn 2, to begin researching the tech giving me T-34, Kv's 1 & 2 (Soviet Tanks I, I believe) whilst adding the research ammased toward Mass production to the tanks research.

I proceeded to rushbuild Munitions Plants or whatever comes from Mass Production in the Ural cities. This turned out to be unneeded as alot of my production ended up being from rushbuying anyway.

Then, I went through every single Soviet city and removed city workers and hired scientists. I also bought Laboratories in the Big 3 cities, and maybe amfew others, but on the whole I used mostly Einsteins. The Soviets huge population allows me to remove tons of workers, really boosting things up. With luxuries non-existant, taxes at their minimum, and science in full gear, I managed to reduce my turns per tech to about 4. You can even look at some of the early posts in this thread by me and note that I refer to a famine and starvation in my cities. They don't need food when all I need is science!

4 turns down the road, I get my tanks, BAM. Now its off to the races. I go in and change every sceintist to a tax collector, and set my tax rate to the max cash available. I earned in the order of 1,000-1,200 golds per turn, allowing me to rushbuy T-34's and Red Armies ad nauseam, all whilst at peace with everyone in the game.

A bit of diplomacy with the first Axis player granted me some breathing room, and he apparently moved his army in position to invade Spain. When I struck first in Rumania, I faced little opposition. Please also note that my initial target for the invasion was met, the Ploesti Oil Refinery. It is Hoover's Dam in the game, and being able to capture it so early in the game (December 1940) both greatly increased my natural production, as well as deny it to the Axis.

The one thing I did sacrifice in the initial invasions was airpower. I didnt have enough fighters, and Germany's bombers let me know that real quick like. I remidied that by taking away a bit form the T-34 production, but I was only loosing 6+ per turn. When I am making 15+ I dont mind those casualties.

-FMK.

And yes, feel free to download any and all of the saves here, the password as written above is 'SMERSH'.

The ANZAC · January 7, 2003, 21:04

Hehe, whoops

My password is 'necromancer' minus the apostrophes

Case · January 8, 2003, 00:16

I'd post my password except for the fact that I use it in every game

Darius871 · January 8, 2003, 08:42

So do ANZAC and Klesh.

klesh · January 8, 2003, 13:03

Well, SMERSH being an acronym for Death to Spies in Russian, I find it only fitting.

-FMK.