An army to be proud of

Socialist Dictator · January 28, 2001, 11:26

I just had a great idea. Lets include a military parade movie.

Just imagine you (Stalin, dont you just love the man) standing there and seeing T34 an infantry marching over the red square. The crowd cheering at the victory over Nazi-Germany and the evil capitalist America. Planes flying over and the flag everywhere.

Ofcourse you can have a military parade before or during a war. My idea is that there should be a button in the capital. When you press it you get a military parade. They should cost some money and make 2 heads i every city happy for the next five turns.

Christmann · January 28, 2001, 14:45

Maybe instead of making people happy in general they should reduce any war discontent that might result from the upcoming war, for a number of turns

Henrik · January 28, 2001, 15:02

Or make two people content in every city.

raingoon · January 28, 2001, 17:12

That's a great idea! It should have diminishing effectiveness, though. If the war is going badly, and has been for some time, a military parade may only snuff out whatever public sympathy you had left!

Dom Pedro II · January 28, 2001, 23:41

I don't know. I think it would make for a cool movie, but I don't think it should be a function in the game. It's going a wee bit over board.

tniem · January 30, 2001, 01:12

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Originally posted by Dom Pedro II on 01-28-2001 10:41 PM
I don't know. I think it would make for a cool movie, but I don't think it should be a function in the game. It's going a wee bit over board.

I have to agree with Dom Pedro II. The movie would be cool but a game concept? Instead maybe after a long war your people celebrate victory with a video and a couple "We Love tniem Day!(s)"

The Patriot · January 30, 2001, 01:25

Socialist America...nice one.

I agree with Dom Pedro too, this would make a cool cut-sceen, but an actual game concept?

bagdar · January 30, 2001, 01:56

I've always hated to see killing machines marching.

It doesn't sound right, and even if something of that sort's in the game I'll turn it off right away.

Cannes · January 31, 2001, 01:27

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Originally posted by The Patriot on 01-29-2001 12:25 PM
Socialist America...nice one.

Who said anything about socialist america?

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kochman626 · January 31, 2001, 17:29

i kind of agree with bagdar,it would make a cool cut sceen, but maybe this parade can only be done with a certain kind of government, like communisim or fundamentalisim, because in a democracy, many people might become unhappy with this, because of it's warlike nature, like badgar.

Socialist Dictator · February 1, 2001, 14:27

Kochman, fine with me. I played with a communist goverment most of the time in Civ2. And then once i had researched everything i swichted to fundamentalism and kicked some ass(preferbly American)

Lancer · February 1, 2001, 14:34

Not everyone loves a parade.

down th' pub · February 1, 2001, 17:29

As a resident of sunny Oregon, wouldn't it be a shame if it rained on this parade.

(Sorry, it was the best I could do at short notice)

Less haste more speed.
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tniem · February 1, 2001, 18:15

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Originally posted by kochman626 on 01-31-2001 04:29 PM
i kind of agree with bagdar,it would make a cool cut sceen, but maybe this parade can only be done with a certain kind of government, like communisim or fundamentalisim, because in a democracy, many people might become unhappy with this, because of it's warlike nature, like badgar.

What???

Think about every war that the U.S. has won. Parades. After WWII everyone in Europe other than Germany had parades. In the U.S. following the Gulf War, parades.

Democracies love to win wars! We love parades! Time Square. How can you say that in a democracy people will be unhappy with a parade, if anything it will get people more excited.

Time to put aside the silly notion that Democracy = peaceful, non-aggressive, non-warlike countries.

kochman626 · February 1, 2001, 21:12

now that i think about it, your right, but maybe with a democracy, it's the citizens, not the government, that arrange a victory parade. when u win a war, u would see a screen saying "your citizens in ___ celebrate your recent victory, and the return of our soldiers" or something, and than the video.
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Theben · February 2, 2001, 01:17

I think it would be better if such a scene was used for a "conquered the world" endgame movie. Definitely not in-game.

Commie dictator, if you're always playing a communist govt then you shouldn't have a problem keeping your people happy. Or at least content. Repressed?

BRENNANonTHEmoor · February 2, 2001, 02:21

Comrads, everyone assumes that war will make your people discontent. I think that in Civ III if the majority of the people are behind war then while at war the citizens should be more happy

Imran Siddiqui · February 2, 2001, 03:30

Well, if that is to be modeled, you should include an aspect of Europa Universalis of Causes Belli...

bagdar · February 2, 2001, 08:42

I meant nothing about government types whatsoever. I said that I don't like parades, neither in real life, nor in a game, and I'm sure most people would find it vain to have military parades, just for the sake of showing the machinery. We had welovetheking and city capture parades in Civ I, something similar could be installed, though. They looked much better than Civ II's announcements.

Grumbold · February 2, 2001, 12:49

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Originally posted by kochman626 on 02-01-2001 08:12 PM
now that i think about it, your right, but maybe with a democracy, it's the citizens, not the government, that arrange a victory parade. when u win a war, u would see a screen saying "your citizens in ___ celebrate your recent victory, and the return of our soldiers" or something, and than the video.
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Mmm. I seem to remember the Allies being quite happy to celebrate the 50th anniversary of VE day with parades and the like. Every country in the world had a massive party on 31/12/1999 and parades on 1/1/2000. For good measure, many had them for the "real" millenium too. Victory parades make good propaganda in wartime and in peacetime they are always popular with the politicians, especially when they distract from the latest scandal.