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rah · June 10, 2002, 16:36

My thoughts exactly. It used to not be a priority, but we've experienced increased early hostilities, so why not.

RAH

Deity Dude · June 10, 2002, 16:47

I agree I just thought it was ironic since you built it in the last 3 games we played.

What was funny was the last game we played I was rushing to get Metalurgy then we quit when I was about 5 turns away

(I really wanted to see those walls come down)

rah · June 10, 2002, 17:00

Yes, you were saving those 20 crusaders for something.
But those vet pikemen fortified on a river forest would still have put up a good fight. There were a lot of units in my two cities there and the one you had.

While I was busy chewing your backside before you could get muskets.

Even though vet pike/reg mustkets are real similar against vet crusaders.

Those three times you mention are probably 90% of the games I built the wall in the last 6 months. Having you for a neighbor is probably a bad influence

Deity Dude · June 10, 2002, 17:15

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Originally posted by rah
There were a lot of units in my two cities there and the one you had.

Then poor Ming tried to walk in there with a settler and a phalanx.

rah · June 10, 2002, 17:24

Yes, that was entertaining.

But he was a sub and didn't know how HOT that region was. Of course Atawa didn't know it either.

Ming · June 10, 2002, 17:31

Give me a break. The previous ruler hadn't done that much exploring. To me, it was all black, and it was the only place to put new cities. How could I know. I had to try to do something... 6 cities wasn't my idea of a grand empire

Deity Dude · June 10, 2002, 17:40

I wasn't criticizing you Ming, I realize you had know way of knowing what was going on there. It was just kinda funny.

Ming · June 10, 2002, 18:14

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Originally posted by Deity Dude
I wasn't criticizing you Ming, I realize you had know way of knowing what was going on there. It was just kinda funny.

Oh.. I know you weren't... and while I had no idea "exactly what was going on"... I had a pretty good clue. But that was the only way out of my land mass, so I had to see how far I could push the border... It would have nice if you had just asked me to leave instead of just killing them on surprise.

It's not like I was much of a threat to anybody. Heck, if you had marched a few of those crusaders into my land, there sure wasn't a heck of alot I could do to stop them.

That did change later by the way

Deity Dude · June 10, 2002, 19:13

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Originally posted by Ming

Heck, if you had marched a few of those crusaders into my land, there sure wasn't a heck of alot I could do to stop them.

See how nice I am

Ming · June 10, 2002, 19:50

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Originally posted by Deity Dude
See how nice I am

Yeah... just sooooooo nice... That Phalanx and Settler still sing your praises

rah · June 10, 2002, 21:59

At least the crusader didn't get to brag about the kill for long .

RAH

Deity Dude · June 10, 2002, 22:32

No - He made the ultimate sacrafice for his civ and was given the medal of honor posthumously.

Ming · June 23, 2002, 19:05

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Originally posted by Deity Dude
No - He made the ultimate sacrafice for his civ and was given the medal of honor posthumously.

At least I got to watch the sucker die

rah · June 24, 2002, 09:02

Coldwiz,
Lacking any additional meaningful discussion, Please add NO GW into the official RAH rules. We've been doing it the last couple of weeks, and everyone seems to be satisfied. (meaning no one b*tched about it too much)

RAH

War4ever · June 24, 2002, 09:13

yes i second rah's suggestion, besides it doesn't last long enough anyways....may as welll add, no oracle, and eiffel tower as welll

timbo, and oh yeah +1

rah · June 24, 2002, 09:27

Naw, I want to leave oracle in. I've seen it built twice after it has already expired.

It's always such a laugh i'd hate to have to tell them it's against the rules.

RAH

War4ever · June 24, 2002, 09:35

War4 "we need to back out"
Rah "why"
War4 "Ming built the Oracle"
Rah "

"
War4 "should we back out"
Rah "Its against the rules, lets back out"
Ming " i didn't read the updated rules, comeone i am getting killed here"
Rah "rules are rules"
*everyone backs out"
*Ming builds Oracle again*

War4&Rah

rah · June 24, 2002, 09:50

@ war4

But you forgot the "THIS BLOOOWWWWWWS"

RAH

War4ever · June 24, 2002, 10:03

actually some times oracle is not such a bad buy.....theology isn't always a high tech choice in our games

so i guess we should leave it in there

Ming · June 24, 2002, 10:31

This blows... This is the worst land I've ever seen... no huts... all plains and mountains... and the only specials I've seen so far are coal and fish...

Oh... this isn't king chat...

Yeah... I've noticed that Theology seems to be coming later and later in our games. If you just get beat out of HG early, orcale doesn't look that bad at all.

rah · June 24, 2002, 10:51

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Originally posted by Ming
Yeah... I've noticed that Theology seems to be coming later and later in our games. If you just get beat out of HG early, orcale doesn't look that bad at all.

But I have this sneaking suspicion that if someone actually built oracle, theology might become a higher priority just to pimp the person.

RAH

Ming · June 24, 2002, 11:11

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Originally posted by rah
But I have this sneaking suspicion that if someone actually built oracle, theology might become a higher priority just to pimp the person.

RAH

In our games... you bet

However... if the first person that gets to mono and builds the chapel then continues on to theology, it takes them even farther away from the invention race, or other races...

And again... I said "early"

War4ever · June 24, 2002, 23:14

yes but you can still win the invention race even if you dont win the race to HG.....or for that matter you could still be taken of the track even further and i do mean further if you went the SSC route....

we should change the rules of the oracle to "it never expires" we used to do that with the old MDL rules....

oracle is a great wonder this way, not too mention it makes a fourth happy wonder....and double effectiveness for temples is huge.....though HG is better...

perhaps make it expire at the eiffel tower stage? oracle is a wonder that should be used more..but there isn't any point at this stage in our games....

btw, glad we banned GW

Caesar the Great · June 24, 2002, 23:18

maybe there should be a "RAH rules" .txt file?

ColdWizard · June 24, 2002, 23:27

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Originally posted by rah
Coldwiz,
Lacking any additional meaningful discussion, Please add NO GW into the official RAH rules. We've been doing it the last couple of weeks, and everyone seems to be satisfied. (meaning no one b*tched about it too much)

RAH

done and done. anything else?

ColdWizard · June 24, 2002, 23:39

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Originally posted by Caesar the Great
maybe there should be a "RAH rules" .txt file?

a rules.txt for rah rules, or rah rules in txt format?

once again i have this feeling that War4's sig is directed towards me

War4ever · June 25, 2002, 00:32

lol ColdWizard , its not directed at you!

Ming · June 25, 2002, 01:41

War convinced me tonight... I think we should play with oracle not expiriring to some later point. It would be an easy change in the txt file. Even rah could do it. It's so easy, that the change takes a minute, and can be changed back just as easy.

Discuss

markusf · June 25, 2002, 02:32

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Originally posted by Ming
War convinced me tonight... I think we should play with oracle not expiriring to some later point. It would be an easy change in the txt file. Even rah could do it. It's so easy, that the change takes a minute, and can be changed back just as easy.

Discuss

Gee toss in that change, and rah rules will nearly have fully cloned the master diety league rules

markusf · June 25, 2002, 02:44

Only thing your missing now, if i remember correctly is caravans reduced to 40 shields, diplomats costs increased to 60? shields and courthouses cost reduced by 50%. Lighthouse went to computers(?) and pyramids expired with refrigeration. Oracle never expires. Oh and there was a trade ship.. 0 attack so you could move it around in rep/dem... I haven't played a MDL game in years but i think that was all the changes not already in "rah rules" ..