Best Wonder?

Bluesabre · March 23, 2002, 00:46

Which is your fav wonder? Mine is the great library.

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watorrey · March 23, 2002, 01:49

This is a tough call as every game is different. The happiness wonders are always important therefore i vote for Sistine Chapel.

The monetary wonders can save a veritable fortune over the course of a game however. The bigger the map/military, the more important Adam Smiths and Leonardo's become.

PatLasch · March 23, 2002, 02:15

I have to go with Universal Suuferage. I hate War Weariness and hate to give up the bonuses of republic or democracy.

notyoueither · March 23, 2002, 02:53

Hoover dam!

Production is the basis of large empires!

Carbon Copy · March 23, 2002, 03:09

Dude. Longevity.

...Or is that a small wonder? I've only built it once or twice, I can't remember off the top of my head.

Seriously, I'd say it's a tossup between Sistine, Pyramids, Sun Tzu, Adam Smith, or Hoover, depending on the map parameters and which victory you're playing for.

What? Why Adam Smith, you say?? Have you ever not built it, but had lots of banks and markets, then captured Smith's later? It can save you HUNDREDS of gold per turn in maitenance.

player1 · March 23, 2002, 05:09

Hover Dam is best.
Maybe it's even broken considering how good wonder is.

Next,
Sistine Chapel, must have for Emperor+ games.

John Paul Jones · March 23, 2002, 06:17

Other - Bach's Cathedral, even without the 'Ode to Joy' melody.

philler · March 23, 2002, 06:23

I'd go for hoover dam (depending on the map type of course), with sistine chapel a close 2nd.

Saurus · March 23, 2002, 07:47

Since I never play games with large continents, Hoover Dam is often quite Useless for me.
I mostly go for the Sistene Chappel as it gives a lot of culture
in addition to a unique happiness bonus.

-Saurus

Jason Beaudoin · March 23, 2002, 09:13

I always thought that a wonder like the Hanging Gardens is a valuable wonder simply by virtue that is an ancient wonder that would generate lots of culture points in the long run.

Thrawn05 · March 23, 2002, 10:44

What? No missile defense?!?!

That thing is a life saver!

Chronus · March 23, 2002, 11:00

I voted for Sistine Chapel. Hoover Dam would be a close second. I have to agree with some of the other posts above. The difficulty level diminishes/increases the importance of the Sistine.

What?! You placed the Oracle in a category by itself and Bach's Cathedral in the "Other" category???

Bach's is cool since it acts as a supplement to cathedrals instead of replacing them.

Ethelred · March 23, 2002, 11:16

It depends on map size. The larger the map and the larger the continents the more important some of the wonders are.

I voted for the Sistine Chappel. Its very usefull at ALL map sizes. If I played all my games on huge maps though I might say something different. Hoover Dam is really usefull.

Lately though I have found that The Theory of Evolution is nearly as important because that is what gives me the Hoover Dam.

Pius Popprasch · March 23, 2002, 11:45

Pyramids only 2 votes??

My vote for Mr. Hoover and his power plant.

Inverse Icarus · March 23, 2002, 17:42

GL, because the tech-wh0ring AI.

just wished it lasted longer.

Jawa Jocky · March 23, 2002, 17:51

Hoover is the perfect match to a Continent full of Factories.

DrSpike · March 23, 2002, 19:48

No wonder is indispensable. The only one I miss if I don't get it is Sistine's chapel.

Playa del Carmen · March 23, 2002, 22:31

I voted pyramids, just because it's usually the first wonder I build and I like not having to build graneries on that continent.

Trevman · March 23, 2002, 22:59

Definetly Darwin's Theory. Two FREE advances, how can you lose?

Trevman · March 23, 2002, 23:01

Sorry,
I forgot about The Great Library. An instant remedy for coming back in the tech race. I change my vote to this one because of temporary amnesia.

asleepathewheel · March 23, 2002, 23:34

I voted Sun Tzu because I usually play pangea, where there is one massive continent. Thus, when I'm rolling through cities, I don't have to stop them more than a turn or two to heal my military completely, thus allowing me to move more quickly cross country. Also, if I am in the midst of a war and I get a new tech, I can upgrade at the front, even if the cities captured didn't have barracks originally,

Uncle Thade · March 24, 2002, 01:21

Sistine Chapel for me, I got keep the little civers happy. Frankly, if I don't they like to break stuff. -=shrug=-

But my underlying philosphy is to build them all...

Sena · March 24, 2002, 11:33

Sistine Chapel

For continent non-restriction and because happiness is the very most usefulness of all.

My 2nd best is Adam's Smith Trading Co because money matters.

Harovan · March 24, 2002, 12:52

The Sistine Chapel with no doubt, Hoover Dam being second.

Jonny · March 24, 2002, 17:42

For me, GL is the most important, considering the tech-trading-hungry AI.

Hoover Dam comes in second, and Adam Smith's comes in third.

Uncle Thade · March 25, 2002, 07:39

Oh I forgot, isn't finishing this game and winning, a Great Wonder(with Patch 1.17f)

Carver · March 25, 2002, 15:43

Quote:

Originally posted by PatLasch
I have to go with Universal Suuferage. I hate War Weariness and hate to give up the bonuses of republic or democracy.

I don't think Universal Sufferage does a darn thang. If I have it and go to war as a democracy my libraries and universities are getting torched 5-10 turns later...savage students.

Which begs the question, why can't we do something like nerve staple the citizens and force them back to work? In Civ3 it could be called "Mobilize Riot Police". Froce the people to work and lose 2 culture per turn.

Anyway, Adam Smith saves a ton of money so that's what I go for.

Arrian · March 25, 2002, 15:56

I'm a wonder hog, but if forced to choose the best one, it's gotta be the Sistine. Works anywhere in the world, never expires, and creates an effect that cannot be duplicated by building city improvements. I love the Great Library, but could live without it... not so sure about the Sistine.

-Arrian

ACooper · March 25, 2002, 16:39

The Wonder Bra of course!

Spec · March 25, 2002, 17:05

Quote:

Originally posted by ACooper
The Wonder Bra of course!

No no! Wonder Woman is for sure the best wonder. She does things that other wonders can't.

Spec.