Another lesson learned!

MyOlde · April 1, 2002, 16:52

You must build the Intelligence Agency so you can plant a spy ... so you know what's going on.

I was playing Regent and was 1 turn away from completing my last ss component (thrusters) and therefore launching when up came this cryptic message: You have just suffered a humiliating defeat. Old Joan had beaten me ... but I didn't know how!

I was way ahead on points; she was always ahead on tech but I was hanging in there. I'd given up on using spies a couple of games ago and figured the Intelligence Agency wasn't worth building. But you need it to plant a spy so you can see how the space race is going. I hadn't done that so she got her ship off one turn ahead of me. I guess. There were no other indicators. My culture was slightly ahead of hers. I had much more land mass. So it had to be space.

Guess I have to build the IA from now on. Information is everything.

Inverse Icarus · April 1, 2002, 18:26

yea, i ranted about this a few turns ago, err i mean days. (wow im bad)

anyway, the epic space race is now shrouded by secrecy.

Cookie Monster · April 1, 2002, 23:20

UberKrux you're right. Having to plant spies after building the IA to monitor the space race is just plain bogus.

We already have our hands full. It is a monumental struggle just to keep up with the AI militarirly, scientifically, resources, etc.

MyOlde · April 2, 2002, 07:46

Did this get changed in the 1.17 patch? I remember when I was playing at a lower level being able to check the competition quite easily.

Thrawn05 · April 2, 2002, 09:07

I thought just planting an embassy lets you know what the other civs are doing. Or is that just for wonders?

Ethelred · April 2, 2002, 09:48

An Embassy doesn't tell you about the Space Ships. You need a spy for that with the 1.17f patch.

You used to get a notification when a part was built even without a spy. That was bug. I was counting up the parts as they were built. Now I try to plant a spy on every civ I go to war with. I just live with not knowing about the others.

MyOlde · April 2, 2002, 10:14

I suppose it's more realistic, like the real world. But it sure does cost a lot of extra effort and gold. Here I want to be a nice peaceful civ (who won't take any guff from the others) and figure I can skip the whole spy game and get my ship up. Guess not.

Ethelred · April 2, 2002, 11:52

I tried being peacefull.

The AI kept calling me weak and extorted me. At the first signs of extortion I start building a larger army.

Sing:

I got a little list
They'd none of them be missed.

Unfortunatly I sometimes find the situation requires that the list be hidden away for a while.

Chronus · April 2, 2002, 22:04

Quote:

An Embassy doesn't tell you about the Space Ships. You need a spy for that with the 1.17f patch.

COOL!

I didn't know that!

ChaingKaiShek · April 2, 2002, 22:08

Hey I noticed this same thing myself, sadly it was a little too late. I went through the trouble of planting spies and checking on the others - only to find out that I had disabled victory through space-race. So it was all a big waste of time.

Chaing

asleepathewheel · April 2, 2002, 22:28

I usually plant spies in the largest countries just to see their army makeup, the space ship knowledge is a bonus, of course I usually disable that option.

Haupt. Dietrich