2194 Gigamap PBEM Test

Pap1723 · April 13, 2002, 20:27

I want to get a PBEM of this started so that we can test it as it was designed for PBEM.

Japanese--
Axis--
Chinese--
American--
British--
Neutral--AI
Soviet--

I will be playing also, but I do not care what Civ I get.

Pap

academia · April 13, 2002, 23:10

Hi Pap1723:
I´ve never played a PBEM before. However i´m an old civ2 fan, and i would like to try this multiplayer games.
I´ve been reading and collecting information about this kind of games.
Could i take a shot? I´ll do my best!!!

Where can i get the files? Or do you send them by mail?
In that case mine is: academia2002@hotmail.com

academia · April 13, 2002, 23:14

Oh! i forgot to tell you. If there´s a vacancy, i would like to take USA

Darius871 · April 14, 2002, 00:42

I'm on the CivFan PBEM of this as the Soviets, so I guess I'll do the Japanese for a change.

Pap1723 · April 17, 2002, 18:52

Japanese-- Darius
Axis-- Pap
Chinese--
American-- Academia
British--
Neutral--AI
Soviet--

Let's fill the rest of these please!

Pap

New version available
http://www.geocities.com/papwr172000/2194v011.zip

MagyarCrusader · April 17, 2002, 20:42

The Civfanatics game doesn't seem to be going anywhere...

God save the Queen! (British)

Darius871 · April 17, 2002, 20:58

Pap, since you seem to be checking this thread, I have to remind you to check the CivFan ZWK PBEM 5 thread soon, you're needed.

Anyhow, the order:

Japanese-- Darius
Axis-- Pap
Chinese--
American-- Academia
British-- MagyarCrusader
Neutral--AI
Soviet--

One or two more, let's go here!

Dr. Nick · April 17, 2002, 21:48

Can I see the scn file?

*may be the return to PBEMs as the Soviets*

Pap1723 · April 18, 2002, 00:23

Hey El Awrence

There is a link to the scenario above.

Japanese-- Darius
Axis-- Pap
Chinese-- MagyarCrusader
American-- Academia
British-- MagyarCrusader
Neutral--AI
Soviet-- El Awrence

Darius, please get us started when you have the chance.
Everyone make sure you get the newest scenario before you start.

http://www.geocities.com/papwr172000/2194v011.zip

Pap

Darius871 · April 19, 2002, 19:41

If indeed this is a test PBEM, then I suppose I have to a report any sort of problems with the scenario. Although I like this map, there seems to be problems with unit combat balancing. I noticed that the so-called “anti-aircraft” batteries were so powerful in defense that no land unit could defeat them except for field artillery, and even that was a stretch.

Not only is this unrealistic practically, but it makes the game historically inaccurate as well, since almost all of the Dutch East Indies and any other island bases with AA batteries are now impossible to take with the marines and tanks I have at my disposal in these areas. In case we still want to continue the scenario despite this, I played my turn anyhow:

- American Pacific fleet destroyed at Pearl Harbor of course, and surprise attacks begin throughout the western Pacific.

- Rangoon, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Singapore, Guam, Hohot, and Nanning have all been captured.

- Mandalay emptied and an occupation force was moved in, but they were out of range can did not take it this month.

- American submarine sunk just west of Darien

- Japanese troops only besiege both cities in the Philippines, since their AA batteries are too powerful to be destroyed by immediate amphibious attacks. Meanwhile, the American air force’s in the Philippines have been destroyed, and some of the garrisons on Panay and Mindoro were destroyed.

- Japanese planes and troops destroy most of the Allied garrisons and air forces in the East Indies that are outside cities, and then prepare for withdrawal back to China as the Japanese forces currently available are insufficient to destroy the powerful AA batteries in the cities of the East Indies. The only exception is Tarakan, which has been besieged.

- “Home Front” wonder completed in Kyoto through rush- building.

Darius871 · April 19, 2002, 19:56

Uh-oh, the gigamap savegame is too big to post (over 500000 bytes). I'll try to e-mail it to the next person on the order, but it turns out my AOL account isn't allowed to attach files, so I need about a day to get that dealt with.

Pap1723 · April 19, 2002, 21:59

Here is the newest version, 0.2.

Let's use this one.

I don't know what we are going to do about the problem with the save games being too big!
I'll try to think of something.

Pap

Alpha Version 0.2
http://www.geocities.com/papwr172000/2194/2194v02.zip

Marko · April 20, 2002, 12:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Darius871

Uh-oh, the gigamap savegame is too big to post (over 500000 bytes).

Post it zipped, it should fit then.

Darius871 · April 20, 2002, 12:59

Good idea, Marko. I'll do that when I redo my turn with version 2, except it doesn't work! Some things are right, like the cities, terrain, and icons, but then other things don't work, like units, unit art, and city improvement names. Might want to check it out Pap, or just continue with 1.1.

Pap1723 · April 20, 2002, 13:09

Darius, you have to run the 2194Days.bat first and choose option 1.

Everything will work fine then.

Pap

Darius871 · April 20, 2002, 13:21

Woo hoo! I don't know if and 8-point AA is going to be easy to kill either, but we'll see. The tanks can do it, but amphibious marine attacks can't. That means I won't have Ambon for instance, since only marines can attack it. Perhaps I have to wait till my fleet arrives.

academia · April 20, 2002, 15:46

Darius is right. They are too strong. Why don´t you reduce it to 5 points? (that should be accesible)

Darius871 · April 20, 2002, 15:58

In the new version he set them to 8, and this is just right. Although marines can't beat them, I'm willing to put up with that. They seem balanced because they are able to knock down a heavy bomber with about 50% damage, while ground troops can still beat them.

This turn went a lot better:

- American Pacific fleet destroyed at Pearl Harbor of course, and surprise attacks begin throughout the western Pacific.

- Rangoon, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Singapore, Guam, Manila, Davao, Rabaul, Surabaya, and Nanning have all been captured.

- Along with the capture of the two Philippine cities, the American garrisons on Panay and Mindoro were destroyed.

- Mandalay emptied and an occupation force was moved in, but they were out of range and can not take it this month.

- American submarine sunk just west of Darien.

- American carrier task force sunk by Japanese U-boat just south of Dutch Harbor, apparently costing about nine naval aircraft units, but we'll never know for sure.

- British fleet destroyed east of Singapore.

- American lend-lease transport bound for the U.S.S.R. sunk off Hokkaido.

- Japanese planes attack troops moving on the Burma Road, and destroy 5 stacked Nationalist armies.

- Wuhan, Taiyuan, Xian, Port Moresby, and Tarakan were out of range of Japanese troops so they could not be taken, but they all have been beseiged by troops capable of taking them within a month.

- American airbase deep in China destroyed.

- “Home Front” wonder completed in Kyoto through rush- building.

Good luck, suckers!

Darius871 · April 30, 2002, 21:56

Is this dead, guys? I would think not, because it's pap's turn now and he usually forgets, but then no one else is bumping him. Is anyone even checking?

Darius871 · April 30, 2002, 22:51

Ok, pap said to repost, since it didn't work for him before:

Darius871 · April 30, 2002, 23:27

repost again

Pap1723 · May 1, 2002, 01:29

Operation Barbarossa Continues
Despite the harsh Soviet winter, the Germans continue their advance towards the final objective of Moscow. The Germans have still not seen a defeat in any of their battles. Is there anything that can stop this powerful war machine?

Eastern Front
Army Group South
-Soviet port city of Sevastopol occupied by German forces. A Battleship stationed there was boarded and destroyed by elite SS Trooper, Otto Skorzeny.

-Further east of Sevastopol, German bombers start a dedicated bombing campaign against the city of Rostov. All Russian planes have been destroyed on the ground, but the AA Batteries can still cause us trouble.

-All units in Kharkov destroyed by artillery bombardment and Stuka bombers. Only one plane managed to get off the ground, while all others were again destroyed on the ground. German units later moved in and now occupy the city.

Army Group Center
-Small bombing campaign started against the city of Minsk. It is beleived that all Soviet planes were again destroyed on the ground.

-German units continue towards Moscow, and they now wait outside Kalinin.

Army Group North
-Port city of Tallinn occupied by German forces. It is the new planned launching point of the campaign for Leningrad.

-Novogrod bombarded by artillery and air strikes. German high command garuntees the city will fall next month.

Western Front
-The Battle of Britain continues, but not with the numbers of before. Air strikes against Dover cause Britain to lose a squadron of Spitfire planes, but the AA Batteries scattered throughout the city and the countryside caused German bombers a lot of damage.

-Defenses in cities on the French coast are increased in a possible Allied invasion of Occupied Germany.

North Africa
-Rommel manuevers his troops to the gates of Alexandria. New troops are also moved to North Africa for the coming offensive.

The Axis will not lose!

General Herr Pap

Darius871 · May 1, 2002, 01:44

Pap's order above said that MagyarCrusader was doing both the Chinese and British, but I don't remember him saying he'd do the Chinese. Is this a typo, or did he notify you by PM? If it's a typo then it's academia's turn, and I have to PM him since he probably thought this game was over.

Pap1723 · May 1, 2002, 01:55

PM Academia, because the Chinese will just be AI.

Pap

academia · May 1, 2002, 13:02

Don´t worry guys, i´ll make my turn.
I have to go in a couple of minutes, so i´ll do it and post it later.

MagyarCrusader · May 1, 2002, 14:21

I'm Winston Churchill.

academia · May 1, 2002, 21:49

Ready

MagyarCrusader · May 1, 2002, 22:27

hmmm... can't download. mihaly@jeszenka.com

MagyarCrusader · May 2, 2002, 18:45

Pap, you should give the Brits some money to start out with. Some of my cities had to sell off improvements before I could do anything. Also, I couldn't build British Infantry.

Anyway, next person's up.

MagyarCrusader · May 2, 2002, 18:46

here