Minimap in Editor

Hagbart · April 17, 2002, 15:42

Do you want a minimap in the Editor?

Zoid · April 17, 2002, 15:49

I don´t care really. I never mod. But you must REALLY want it, this is like the 10th post I´ve seen from you on this subject...

Hagbart · April 17, 2002, 15:56

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Originally posted by Kamrat X
I don´t care really. I never mod. But you must REALLY want it, this is like the 10th post I´ve seen from you on this subject...

Yes I'm not gonna make any new maps before I get a minimap. It is very annoying that I have to start civ3 and end the game each time i want to see the map! And now I can't even use the multi-cheat to view the map anymore!
Some zoom-abilities in the Editor would be nice too.

Grrr · April 17, 2002, 15:58

Of course.

simwiz2 · April 17, 2002, 16:01

Its almost impossible to make maps without a mini-map. So of course thre should be one, and it shouldnt be too hard to add ot the editor, they already have a mini map in the game

ACooper · April 17, 2002, 16:29

I'm glad they have spent there time on more important things. Like the game.

Why would you want to play on a map where you already know where everything is?

Hagbart · April 17, 2002, 16:31

I bet they could make one in a day max.

exeter0 · April 17, 2002, 17:01

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Originally posted by ACooper
I'm glad they have spent there time on more important things. Like the game.

Why would you want to play on a map where you already know where everything is?

I often revise a generated map to tone down anomolies of Mountains, jungle and tundra.

I find that by the time i've finished the whole map I have no idea of where things are when I go to play.

Makes for a more interesting game... doesn;t give an AI civ much of a chance when they are placed in the middle of a 15*15 vast terrain of tundra.

So to this... a minimap would be very nice!

Spiffor · April 17, 2002, 17:12

To me it's not an emergency : coherent maps have been made with the Editor, so this is possible if you have much method and motivation. I consider that flat maps should come first (how I long for a flat Europe or Asia map)
Didn't vote

Pyrodrew · April 17, 2002, 17:44

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Originally posted by ACooper
Why would you want to play on a map where you already know where everything is?

If someone else made the map I wouldn't know where everything is.

asleepathewheel · April 17, 2002, 18:32

no
don't care about the map editor.

Hagbart "It is very annoying that I have to start civ3 and end the game each time i want to see the map!"

I guess I understand your point, but to me that would take away a lot of the fun of the game.

N. Machiavelli · April 17, 2002, 20:22

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Originally posted by asleepathewheel

I guess I understand your point, but to me that would take away a lot of the fun of the game.

Then why not make it toggle-able (is that even a word?)? A little button to turn it on and off on the tool bar would allow people who are editing a map to actually see where they are going without ruining your surprise.

asleepathewheel · April 17, 2002, 20:32

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Originally posted by N. Machiavelli

Then why not make it toggle-able (is that even a word?)? A little button to turn it on and off on the tool bar would allow people who are editing a map to actually see where they are going without ruining your surprise.

yeah, I know and understand, I was just feeling obnoxious when I said that. I think after seeing him post the minimap thing multiple times on this site as well as civfan, i was feeling irritated.

BeBro · April 17, 2002, 20:37

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Originally posted by Hagbart
Do you want a minimap in the Editor?

Absolutely

Captain · April 17, 2002, 20:54

i think most modders and mapmakers would agree this would be an awesome addition.

ALSO: we need a replacement for the multi.sav cheat so we can check if the AI is working with our mod to keep a balanced game or whether our mod horribly cripples the AI. without that, I am not sure whether the AI is imploding because of some specific mod change or whether it would do that anyways.

other than that, most of the rest of the patch looks good.

PatLasch · April 17, 2002, 21:34

I also want a zoom out feature.

Amesjustin · April 17, 2002, 23:38

Mini-Map is essential to map creation. However it should be 'toggleable' so you don't inadvertently see someone elses scenario map if wanted to tweak the rules a bit.....

Kilroy_Alpha · April 18, 2002, 00:04

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Originally posted by Hagbart
I bet they could make one in a day max.

And you know this because you are intimately familiar with the source code of the editor? You've worked on it personally and conducted intensive studies regarding precisely what it would take to add a minimap? You are not the only one who wants a mini-map - it's something that's been asked for since 1.16 at least. However, as it is not required to make a good map (look around) and there are many, MANY other more pressing issues with the game (some which may even be resolved eventually, but who knows?) a minimap in the editor is not a huge priority. And, it may take more than a day to implement.

I wish you had included in your poll the option "I hate you, Hagbart."

exeter0 · April 18, 2002, 00:24

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Originally posted by Kilroy_Alpha

And you know this because you are intimately familiar with the source code of the editor? You've worked on it personally and conducted intensive studies regarding precisely what it would take to add a minimap? You are not the only one who wants a mini-map - it's something that's been asked for since 1.16 at least. However, as it is not required to make a good map (look around) and there are many, MANY other more pressing issues with the game (some which may even be resolved eventually, but who knows?) a minimap in the editor is not a huge priority. And, it may take more than a day to implement.

I wish you had included in your poll the option "I hate you, Hagbart."

Oh well then, we shouldn't forget the fourth option: "Rack off and Chill out Kilroy"

Seriously...
Maybe they are looking at the Map editor as a development task with zooming. I would think that they are dependent.

Grrr · April 18, 2002, 00:52

Why do newbies always skip on the banana option? Banana's as a resource are more important than you minimap.

Hagbart · April 18, 2002, 02:37

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Originally posted by Kilroy_Alpha

And you know this because you are intimately familiar with the source code of the editor? You've worked on it personally and conducted intensive studies regarding precisely what it would take to add a minimap? You are not the only one who wants a mini-map - it's something that's been asked for since 1.16 at least. However, as it is not required to make a good map (look around) and there are many, MANY other more pressing issues with the game (some which may even be resolved eventually, but who knows?) a minimap in the editor is not a huge priority. And, it may take more than a day to implement.

I wish you had included in your poll the option "I hate you, Hagbart."

Ok, I'll shut up now!

Zoid · April 18, 2002, 03:28

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Originally posted by Grrr
Why do newbies always skip on the banana option? Banana's as a resource are more important than you minimap.

Yes! Go bananas!

Maybe a mandatory visit to the OT-forum for all newbies?

Grrr · April 18, 2002, 04:22

Hear Hear. Kamrat X.

Skanky Burns · April 18, 2002, 06:49

Nah, then we'd have to wade through even more Wiglaf-style posts

For the mini-map, I would not personally use it. I can't design maps well at all. However I do support it based on the fact that people who design maps would need this feature to design their maps efficiently without going insane. Thus, Yes.

YC4B4U · April 19, 2002, 04:37

"No I don't care" is really two of the possible answers. That is "No" or "I don't care".

Some that voted for "No I don't care", might have voted for "I don't care" - like I did...

Sorry but I am just a bit grumpy at the moment...

Grrr · April 19, 2002, 04:45

I agree with YC4B4U