April 20, 2002, 21:56
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Oh come on Mr Fun, it happens. When kids become sexually active they need to relieve themselves, and the chances are at that age, it is going to involve pornography. You are just being plain unrealistic, and quite frankly, naive.
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How can you not see the potential connection between children with pornography, and pedophilia??
The more comfortable a society becomes in tolerating, or even encouraging children before their teen years in viewing pornography, the closer they get to eventually accepting pedophilia. At least, the risk is there -- not absolute.
Preteen kids viewing pornography and child pornography itself, in my opinion, risks greater tolerance for pedophilia.
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April 20, 2002, 21:58
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I think we must have our wires crossed Mr Fun, I am referring to children viewing pornography 
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April 20, 2002, 21:58
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--"Sure, but my question is 'What's actually wrong ith it?'."
Most of it isn't done very well 
--"The viewing of it is in and of itself morally wrong and a sin."
Please elaborate.
--"Both of these encourage pedophilia,"
Beg pardon? Children looking at porn encourages adults to try to have sex with kids? The logic behind this conclusion escapes me.
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April 20, 2002, 22:01
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Most of it isn't done very well
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April 20, 2002, 22:03
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I think we must have our wires crossed Mr Fun, I am referring to children viewing pornography
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I argue that preteen kids should not be exposed to any kind of pornography.
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April 20, 2002, 22:05
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But why??
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April 20, 2002, 22:05
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Originally posted by MrFun
I argue that preteen kids should not be exposed to any kind of pornography.
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Not even Japanese rape-pornography? 
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April 20, 2002, 22:06
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April 20, 2002, 22:07
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On a somewhat serious note, pornography (in addition to lots of other factors) helped me out when I first realized I was gay. Thinking that you're alone in being gay is very stressful. Knowing that millions of guys are looking at the same pictures makes you feel slighly less freakish and abnormal. 
The down side is I'm a near total hedonist when it comes to sex now. But I think a lot of that was in place long before I discovered porn.
*brushes off his leather chaps and heads back to his dungeon*
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April 20, 2002, 22:07
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I argue that preteen kids should not be exposed to any kind of pornography.
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That is very arbitrary. It depends on what the kid wants, what stage he develops at. If the child was not sexually interested, he would not have the slightest interest in pornography. It is a self-governing thing. If the kid wants porn to aid his masturbation, so be it.
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April 20, 2002, 22:07
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David, I already explained why.
When preteen kids view pornography pictures of ADULTS, what do think the connection is?? The sexual pleasure that is claimed to be derived from sex between an adult and a child.
Thanks for you tasteless joke, Sliparac.
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April 20, 2002, 22:09
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MrFun, how does 16 year olds looking at 25 year olds lead to pedophilia? I see no connection.
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April 20, 2002, 22:09
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MrFun, it is the child fantasising over the adult, not the other way around. Therefore your paedophilia argument is null and void.
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April 20, 2002, 22:10
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When preteen kids view pornography pictures of ADULTS, what do think the connection is?? The sexual pleasure that is claimed to be derived from sex between an adult and a child.
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You are a very wierd person.
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April 20, 2002, 22:10
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"The more comfortable a society becomes in tolerating, or even encouraging children before their teen years in viewing pornography, the closer they get to eventually accepting pedophilia. At least, the risk is there -- not absolute."
I'd just like to say that I think that is utter boobery.
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April 20, 2002, 22:13
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If the kids are preteens then there really aren't much in the way of "hormones" raging and there shouldn't be "tensions" to release. Few kids are going to be able to reach a real "release" until they're at least 13, so what would be the point of allowing them to view porno? It would be like throwing gasoline on the meagerest of barely lit tapers. Instead of exposing them to trashy porno, which is so often ridiculously unrealistic, sadistic or exploitive, I think I'll use my fairly good relationship with my son and talk to him about his feelings and the changes within him.
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April 20, 2002, 22:13
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MrFun, it is the child fantasising over the adult, not the other way around. Therefore your paedophilia argument is null and void.
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Kids viewing pornography encourages gerontophilia!
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April 20, 2002, 22:13
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If society accepts children fantasizing over adult images, then that means there is no harm in a child going out, looking for a real adult to have sex with.
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April 20, 2002, 22:15
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You think that if there was no porn, minors wouldn't want sex with adults?
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April 20, 2002, 22:17
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You think that if there was no porn, minors wouldn't want sex with adults?
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No, of course not.
But pornography provides additional encouragment, that's all.
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April 20, 2002, 22:19
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I'm not sure how - when I was 15 I'd "pitch a tent" watching nudeless sex on TV. I'd look at adults and be like "Oh yeah!"
Porn had nothing to do with it.
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April 20, 2002, 22:20
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David... can we keep those discussions to yourself .
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April 20, 2002, 22:21
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I'm just making a damn point
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April 20, 2002, 22:25
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Dr.Strangelove, I know your some kind of expert or something, but I was, like, THERE, if you know what I mean when most of the 5th Grade started to discover the Wonderful World of Mastrubation.
According to what I remember, puberty hits at 13 or 100 lbs, whichever comes first.
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April 20, 2002, 22:26
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I'm just making a damn point
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Well, thanks for sharing. 
Rebel red-necks have no shame. 
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April 20, 2002, 22:27
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Rebel red-necks have no shame.
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Neither do Northern homosexuals .
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April 20, 2002, 22:28
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Well I;m just being honest MrFun....now respond to my point
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I just looked at some porn to make sure.
Yes its still a good thing
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April 20, 2002, 22:31
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