April 20, 2002, 22:43
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Aqueduct question?
I need a clarification of the aqueduct rule. Does the city need to be founded directly on top of the river or can the river be within one tile of the city in order to receive the benefits of the river?
Aqueduct: a city with an Aqueduct can grow beyond population six.
Note that a city adjacent to fresh water never requires and aqueduct.
adjacent (e-jâ´sent) adjective
1.Close to; lying near: adjacent cities.
2.Next to; adjoining: adjacent garden plots.
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The city in this picture requires an aqueduct.
I seem to remember that in my previous games the rivers only needed to be within one tile. Was I tripping? 
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Last edited by MosesPresley; April 21, 2002 at 20:11.
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April 20, 2002, 22:48
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The city needs to be in a tile with a river forming the border of that tile. Or in a tile adjacent to a lake (Coastal terrain but inaccessible to the Ocean).
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April 20, 2002, 23:44
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Thanks for the response. Is this a new thing with the 1.21f patch?
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—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
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April 20, 2002, 23:50
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No. Ever since the original.
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April 21, 2002, 00:58
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For some reason I can't see your image, but notyoueither, (whose avatar I can't see either) summed it up.
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April 21, 2002, 01:00
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You can't see my avatar? You are being deprived...
Management!!! Get this man a real browser. 
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April 21, 2002, 01:06
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IE6 is a real browser. But since this morning your tiger has been replaced by a red X marker.
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April 21, 2002, 01:10
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Prince
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Can anyone see the image I posted?
Thanks for answering the question. I was pretty sure of the answer anyway. I just could have sworn the rule was not implemented like that before. I was wrong. I guess I like to remember things the way I want to, not necessarily the way they happened. 
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"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
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April 21, 2002, 01:28
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No MosesP.
Grrr!! That sux. Maybe it's something to do with the server being moved???
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April 21, 2002, 01:32
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I don't know. I can see it if I view your profile, so I don't know what's up with it.
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April 21, 2002, 01:34
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I think the image is too big. Dang nam it. Tigers deserve to be enjoyed in all their infinite colour goodness.
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April 21, 2002, 05:58
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Firstly MosesPresley, attach the image using the attach image option just below where you reply (full reply, not quick reply).
Do NOT link to your local hard-drive!
notyoueither: Your avatar is fine for me. Not sure if you've since 'fixed' it or there is a problem with Grrr!!'s browser, but I can see it fine.
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April 21, 2002, 08:18
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new server?
Since the thread has already evolved somewhat off topic and since the primary question's been answered ...
Anyone else notices change(s) with the new Apolyton server?
At least, that's what I think has changed:
opening my mailbox to check the latest (Apo) messages, the direct link to the specific thread doesn't function anymore. Instead there's a note:
vBulletin Message
If you see this message, then you dns server is sending you to our old location.
However you should be able to access the forums on the new server with this link!
Will this be fixed?
Need I to implement some fixes?
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April 21, 2002, 15:14
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NYE: your avatar is working again.
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April 21, 2002, 15:24
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Re: new server?
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Originally posted by AJ Corp. The FAIR
vBulletin Message
If you see this message, then you dns server is sending you to our old location.
However you should be able to access the forums on the new server with this link!
Will this be fixed?
Need I to implement some fixes?
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AJ, after you "click" on the new server link, save the new page to your favorites and delete the old server page from your computer. This is what I did and it works fine now.
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April 22, 2002, 10:51
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Re: Re: new server?
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Originally posted by Wittlich
AJ, after you "click" on the new server link, save the new page to your favorites and delete the old server page from your computer. This is what I did and it works fine now.
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April 22, 2002, 11:02
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As a reply to the original thread-topic, I find it sometimes a little difficult to see where I can put a city to have the aqueduct benefit. When I was a newbee, I thought that was the same rules as placing irrigation, that it worked also diagonally. The dwindling meanders of rivers could also be a little bit hard to follow, especially in hilly areas.
And as a reply to the other thread-topic, I can´t see the attached image but I can see nye's nice avatar. Groarrh... 
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April 22, 2002, 11:25
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Originally posted by Flanker
And as a reply to the other thread-topic, I can´t see the attached image but I can see nye's nice avatar. Groarrh...
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Exactly the same. 
To complete AJ's question, I also noticed that some links do not function anymore. I can not get out of the forums.
MarkG, has the whole site been completely moved ?
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April 22, 2002, 12:53
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It's good practice to right-click for terrain info before settling. If the info lists at least 1 gold more than that tile's default, it counts as adjacent to a river.
Sadly, the map gets confused by more than one river edge. If you have a river on 2 or 3 sides of a tile, you'll probably need an acqueduct.
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April 22, 2002, 15:17
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Does the game really get confused like that? Marquis de Sodaq?
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April 22, 2002, 18:53
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Thanks for all the help. I deleted the image since I don't have a website. I thought it was successfully uploaded, because I could see it. DOH! 
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—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
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April 23, 2002, 00:41
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Does the game really get confused like that? Marquis de Sodaq?
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Yes - I was puzzled for several games by needing an acqueduct in such a city. I haven't checked closely enough to know under exactly what conditions the acqueduct is still needed. Checking before settling works every time, tho.
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May 10, 2002, 15:26
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Sorry to drag this one back up, but check out this picture. This is an unmodded game, version 1.21f
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"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
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May 10, 2002, 15:31
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Why won't my attachment show up?
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"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
—Orson Welles as Harry Lime
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