April 23, 2002, 15:25
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Prince
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What do you think of the game "Black & White"?
This is totally off-topic but I figure many of us have similar outlooks when it comes to gaming. I'm thinking of buying the game "Black & White". Do you play it, have an opinion, good or bad? Your opinion matters to me because, as I say, if we like Civ 3, chances are many of us will have similar feelings toward other games.
Thanks.
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April 23, 2002, 15:28
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Go to the off topic forum.
(or wait to be moved )
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April 23, 2002, 15:29
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Actually, the "other games" forum would be more appropriate, and is probably where this will end up.
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April 23, 2002, 15:31
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I have played it, you will enjoy the graphics and the interactivity, but that will only last for a couple of days, because once you actually start playing you suddenly get sick and tired of it, because there is a LOT of work involved rather than playing. Infact the whole damn game is designed to make you work hard and you don't actually get to do anything yourself. Far too many restrictions and not enough freedom.
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April 23, 2002, 17:52
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Exactly as Snoopy put it. First week is amazing, but after you get over the newness it will end up an expensive book end.
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April 23, 2002, 18:03
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And this still isn't moved? I have heard a lot of bad things about Black and White.
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April 23, 2002, 18:46
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What do I think about 'Black & White'?
It's crap.
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April 23, 2002, 18:54
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It seemed pretty neat, but it was using half my hard drive, at the time, so after a week, it found its way off my hard drive, and that was that.
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April 23, 2002, 18:54
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April 23, 2002, 19:33
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I love Black and White. It continually surprises me. My biggest complaint is that the campaign only has 5 levels. Another problem is that it likes to randomly crash. This has been reported by many people. The crashes happen the most on the upper levels, so lengthy autosaves are a necessary evil.
If you can find it on sale, I highly recommend it.
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April 23, 2002, 21:05
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If you can't find someone who will pay you to take it, I wouldn't recommend it.
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April 23, 2002, 22:41
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I'm not slandering anyone, but it certainly doesn't surprise me that a bunch of wargaming grognards don't appreciate the sublime pastoral ambiance of B&W.
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April 23, 2002, 22:58
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Originally posted by MosesPresley
I'm not slandering anyone, but it certainly doesn't surprise me that a bunch of wargaming grognards don't appreciate the sublime pastoral ambiance of B&W.
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My tastes aren't limited to wargaming, I play games from just about every genre.
I was extremely excited about Black & White prior to it's release - but was also extremely disapointed with the heap of garbage it turned out to be.
It's "amazing" and "ground breaking" AI that they hyped up so much is crap the creature is dumb as a rock and you can only teach it pre-designated things.
It's gameplay is no better, it's like they designed a "sand box" god-sim and then threw in some lame attempt at a RTS when they realised that it wouldn't rake in the big bucks - the result is a very short, simple, boring, and all around lame game design.
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April 23, 2002, 23:14
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Just another installment in Populous with the creature added.
Not really that exciting.
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April 24, 2002, 06:42
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Don't be unkind to Populous. Now that was a ground breaking, innovative and addictive game whe it first came out. I played that and Powermonger for months. I'd probably still play them both occasionally today if my Atari St hadn't gone to silicon heaven.
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April 24, 2002, 08:29
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You're right, Populous was great when it first come out. Very innovative. I remembered playing that on silly amber monitors with VGA resolutions, but nothing stopped me
Though a dacade down the road, anything that's once innovative becomes old.
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April 24, 2002, 08:44
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April 24, 2002, 09:53
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B&W sucked big time, I tried very hard to enjoy the game, but it was impossible. Then I hear around that people say: "Look at that graphic, it's truly amazing!", well...I got the game about the same time it was released and that was deffently NOT amazing!
And don't talk bad about Populus, that was a great game...ok, I got to admit I have only tried Populus 3, but it was fun for more than a month, both SP and MP was great...
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May 1, 2002, 14:03
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One of the big things that keep me playing a game is the replayability. How is Black and White for this?
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May 1, 2002, 15:33
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Originally posted by centrifuge
One of the big things that keep me playing a game is the replayability. How is Black and White for this?
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It lacks playability, period.
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May 1, 2002, 15:59
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Black and White is pretty bad, in that both "hardcore" and casual gamers will be disappointed by the gameplay. Usually one of the two groups likes a game, so I'd say something's wrong.
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May 9, 2002, 13:38
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It started to get REALLY annoying after 3 days or so , and then. *BAM* I returned it to a friend.
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May 12, 2002, 13:21
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agree with dalgetti. It is funny to see your monster try to eat himself, and throw feces all over theplace
But after 2-4 days, take it back. You will be really bored by then.
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May 12, 2002, 15:51
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Prince
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I appreciate everyone's comments. I decided to forget B&W and go in a totally different direction; I bought Serious Sam: the Second Encounter. And it's a blast!
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May 12, 2002, 16:07
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you simply CAN'T go wrong with a FPS.
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May 12, 2002, 21:08
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What the industry calls 'revolutionary AI' for B&W, I call 'adequate'. (probably because we are so used to dumbified AI in our games)
The graphics look nice, at least what pics I saw of it. But the whole idea of the game seems a little too.. cutsie for me.
I don't want to raise a virtual pet, I want to conquer worlds!!!
::smashing fist smiley WARNING::
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