April 27, 2002, 18:38
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"The purpose of War is not to die for your country. It is to make the other poor bastard die for his". Patton
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April 28, 2002, 08:12
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Prince
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Aye. Or read my sig. 
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April 28, 2002, 08:33
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See! shadowlord is a power-hungry machiavellian!!!
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April 28, 2002, 08:47
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Normally, I'd assume that was a joke, but you've already shown your opposition to my proposed policies, so I must treat this as your actual opinion, and respond accordingly.
Have you read Machiavelli? If not, then you are judging him without ever having read his works, and judging others based on your ill-informed and ill-considered opinion on Machiavelli, which isn't the least bit based on fact.
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"For it must be noted, that men must either be caressed or else annihilated; they will revenge themselves for small injuries, but cannot do so for great ones; the injury therefore that we do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance." - Niccolo Machiavelli
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April 28, 2002, 08:51
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it was a joke...but I have read little bits of Machiavelli, and although his ideas may not be incorrect, they would not do good in the hands of our president IMHO.
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"I'm so very glad KH is Canadian."--Donegeal
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April 28, 2002, 16:49
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Prince
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In that case,  . Ah, but his ideas would be good for helping us conquer and keep enemy lands. If Civ2 reflected Machiavelli's ideas, that is, which it does not. For instance, Cities captured from republics certainly aren't harder to hold in Civ2 than cities captured from monarchies. Maybe in Civ3 they are, if the republic has higher culture, but there's no guarantee.
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"For it must be noted, that men must either be caressed or else annihilated; they will revenge themselves for small injuries, but cannot do so for great ones; the injury therefore that we do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Last edited by Shadowlord; April 28, 2002 at 17:18.
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April 28, 2002, 20:07
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in civ3, it's a bit better, especailly because I think the chances of both conquered citizens resisting your rule and also cities rebelling to join other civs are modified slightly by the difference in the "level of gov't". Unfortunately, they are not changed much, and I think the order is:
1. anarchy
2. despotism
3. monarchy and republic (same)
4. democracy and communism (same)
Instead of having republic and democracy above all totalitarian govts.
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"I'm so very glad KH is Canadian."--Donegeal
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April 30, 2002, 00:50
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Deity
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Hmm. Maybe my problem was not posting any promises... Next time, then.
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April 30, 2002, 05:54
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We still need a VP...(or has our prez already chosen someone) and it's interesting for the pres to know who is interested in that job, so he doesn't accidentely picks someone who has no time or wish to be VP
Shade 
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