April 28, 2002, 08:22
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Deity
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Stupid civ3 mod question
Something I've not really understood in the 1.21f patch. If I modify my civ3mod file and load a saved game, will the chages not be applied immediately?
In previous versions civ3mod.bic file took effect immediately.
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April 28, 2002, 12:36
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King
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I could be wrong here but the way I understand it is that the new patch saves the settings in the .sav game file. So if you change the civ3mod.bic, it won't take any effect on existing games. It will only have effect in new games that you start.
In a way its good because you can't mess up an important game by doing wonky things to the bic, so no more corrupting of old sav files. But its also bad because it's harder to test mod changes, since now we have to bring the game all the way from the start to the modern age just to test a few modern era changes.
again, someone with better knowledge can correct me.
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April 28, 2002, 13:54
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Emperor
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As far as I know, thats the way it works.
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April 28, 2002, 13:58
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Deity
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I'm upset  .
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April 28, 2002, 16:40
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Prince
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It totally sucks 
It's now impossible to correct bug "on the fly", and to playtest without relaunching another game.
Like some other features, I just can't understand the meaning of this : no pro, many cons.
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April 28, 2002, 17:16
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Prince
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this was the only glaring fault I've found so far in 1.21. I'm still playing around with balancing the values and I hate when I find something after the first era because I know I'll have to start a new game to test my new values
I hope they "unfix" this one in the future.
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April 29, 2002, 00:17
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King
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I hope they unfix that feature too, or make it optional in the save dialog.
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April 30, 2002, 16:14
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Warlord
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values
I use Marals Map and change it's values. I do not think(hope) that the 1.21 patch will change those values only the values on the civ3mod.bic. which I do not think I use since Marlas map has it's own ,bic file?
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May 1, 2002, 00:14
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King
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Marla's map should indeed be unaffected.
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May 1, 2002, 00:16
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Warlord
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marals
Thank you
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May 1, 2002, 06:09
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Deity
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Exactly that is the problem. If in mid-came I find out I forgot to make the SS parts more expensive, it's till the next game for me...
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