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April 29, 2002, 04:59
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Deity
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Rate the game
as of today 4/29 post patch. Ignore what you thought of it in the past.
and should I reinstall it on my hard drive?
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April 29, 2002, 05:34
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Chieftain
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Check my first post in the thread "Is it worth it?" for my opinion.
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April 29, 2002, 05:54
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Deity
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I say a solid 7 as it stands.
No scenarios and very difficult to add units, wonders, etc are a weakness as of 1.21. Other people can tell you about MP
SP is coming along very well. I would rate it higher if that were the only aspect of the game I was rating. I still get the feeling that things could be fleshed out better though. A revamped tech tree and some tweaks in the standard rules could get it to a 9 or 10. 10 is perfect though. Civ was perfect. Nothing else ever has been.
Very playable now. No major bugs reported, yet. Like the AI self destruct under Communism in 1.17.
I'd say install it and give it a go. What do you have to lose but some time you may have wasted in some other way?
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April 29, 2002, 07:07
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Prince
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I give it a six, but I still play 1.16f. My current game is keeping me from installing the latest patches. But it is nearly over, so I will probably download 1.21f soon.
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April 29, 2002, 08:50
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Emperor
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9, but they still need to work on it, to become a real classic.
(Civ1 & Civ2 would be 10 considering the times when they were made).
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April 29, 2002, 08:56
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Civ4: Colonization Content Editor
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8 points from me. And yes, it's worth to be installed again. 1.21f is a very good patch, although not yet perfect.
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April 29, 2002, 10:40
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Prince
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I rate it a 9. It's certainly the "best" game I've ever played. It's deep, complex, imaginative, re-playable, fun, thoughtful, and satisfying. I can't imagine anything better.
But I've not played a lot of games. I'd be interested to hear from everyone what they rank as equal to or better than Civ3 ... and why?
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April 29, 2002, 13:05
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Prince
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As NYE, I will give a solid 7 to Civ3. Add a full editor and it can goes up to 8.
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But I've not played a lot of games. I'd be interested to hear from everyone what they rank as equal to or better than Civ3 ... and why?
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It all depends if you talk about similar games, or games in general.
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April 29, 2002, 13:08
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8, taking the last patch in consideration. All in all, there are room for improvements.
A better editor, MP et caetera. I have to say that I personally do not care about scenarios or MP, but I have to review Civ3 in an objective way, and the game that was first released was very far from being finished (although it was playable).
Now, the successive patches are "finishing" the game properly, and I'm sure that in a few months it will be a very good game.
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April 29, 2002, 13:11
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King
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9. If you really want my opinions, do a post search.
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April 29, 2002, 13:12
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Prince
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Gave it a 10, its a great game. Replayable, enjoyable, and much more. I've never really played a whole lot of mods for Civ games though, or played MP alot. I mostly just like seeing how things develop in each game, because its different each time, but thats just me.
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April 29, 2002, 14:38
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King
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8.
I can guess who said '1'.
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April 29, 2002, 14:42
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Prince
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If I hadn't played SMAC (and maybe CTP 2) in the time between Civ 2 and Civ 3, I would've given it a 10 probably. But, since I had, I gave it an 8.
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April 29, 2002, 15:08
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Prince
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I've voted six.
The game has had me hooked up for about 6 months, but now I'm getting ... bored with it ... at this moment definitely and that's worse than other games that I've enjoyed (Civ1,Civ2,MOO2, CTP,AOE,AOE2).
I regret the lack of options (research lead/victory?, need more units/techs/governments,variable circonstances) and the one-way-road-to-victory concept of dealing with Civ3 at higher levels.
Civ3 introduced some new ideas that I like (culture, civ traits, UU) introduced a much better wargaming aspect ), but the game still is creatively unfinished: the introduced ideas could and really should have been worked out and implemented better. The game suffers from poorly diversified playing options, making al games ...
ALIKE.
No surprises, no real different situations. Different in details, yes, but never in game experience or in game situations.
Especially regretful is the fact that many older civ-esque games already provided more distinct playing options that the recent Civ3.
I'll play, yes, and probably enjoy a couple of them, but I'm not kidding myself, I'm definitely looking out for a richer game experience. Civ3 XP might provide that (if it offers MANY new features or units or options or ...), but I'm also confident that other companies will catch up on the civ idea/concept soon.
I'm looking out for those 'richer' inspired games that provide more depthness/addiction/surprising features etc.
Or the next civ XP/4.
But civ3 definitely won't make my top 5 recent (<10 years) game experiences. That's a fact.
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April 29, 2002, 15:27
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King
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Originally posted by punkbass2000
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I can guess who said '1'.
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Don't you think he would have told us why - at full length?
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April 29, 2002, 15:31
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Settler
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i know there are problems with it as far as editing, but i never did that anyway (i'm pretty much of a "play it the way it came" guy). the real test of this game is that the cd hasn't left my computer at home since November. i haven't played another game in that time and finish one game of civ3 only to start another. in the first incarnation, i wasn't finishing all of the games, by the time you got to industrial age, the game seemed to drag. that is no longer true. it's exciting to the end.
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April 29, 2002, 15:51
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I gave it a 6 (before 1.21 it would´ve got a 4...) It has definetly taken the step over the line that divides a-waste-of-time-game to quite-playable-game. Finally, I might add
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April 29, 2002, 15:53
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Originally posted by lockstep
Don't you think he would have told us why - at full length?
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Nope, I sense a banana vote with that one...
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April 29, 2002, 16:01
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Emperor
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The latest patch is a definite improvement, but there's still some room for improvement.
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April 29, 2002, 16:02
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King
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Currently it is a really good game. If only they could give us MP and a desent Mod/Scenario engine, and then I'd give it a 9.
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April 29, 2002, 16:41
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Warlord
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8. I think scenarios is the thing I miss most, MP is not that important IMO, but of course it would be nice to try. I sometimes also think it has lost a bit of that ol' Civ feeling - e.g, when playing Civ II with wonder movies and hilarous advisors, it was a little more "human" feeling about it. As you actually played as a civilization. Nah, bad description, maybe it´s time for me to go to bed...
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April 29, 2002, 20:49
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Warlord
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I rated Civ3 an 8. Good, solid, fun single player. I think I agree with what notyoueither had to say, though: perhaps a good, solid 7 would be more like it. An excellent editor/scenario creator would bump that to a 9. If it also had at least hotseat player along with that: a 10, baby!
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April 29, 2002, 22:12
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Warlord
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I give it a 6. If I hadn't played CIV2 or SMAC/X, it would be a 10 and I wouldn't see the problems that I have with the game, I would just accept it as game mechanics and deal with it. Un
1.21 is better than 1.16/7, but I feel like the game has a long way to go. CIV2 was a 10 for its time. Even when it was crashing when I'd do something as simple as arrow through my cities (fixed with patch) I was hooked on it. I'm thinking seriously of ditching it and firing up another game of SMAC. It's been almost a year since I played it. It wil probably make me tempted to lower the score I gave to CIV3, though.
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April 29, 2002, 22:27
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Prince
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Purely because with 1.21, there has been huge improvement in the game, and it is getting close to perfection.
But there's definitely room for more improvement. Most notably, a user friendly scenario system, and editor and the ability to create your own civs without having to replace existing ones, or use Civ3Multitool.
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April 29, 2002, 22:51
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Warlord
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I gave it a very low 7 (was considering 6), and pre-1.21 would be a low 5. It would probably be a very solid 7 right now, but there are some glitches/bugs that i have noticed with 1.21
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April 29, 2002, 23:23
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Prince
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When the game first came out I was one of the Pro-Civ IIIers but the more I play it the more I see that it just isn't really that good. There are a lot of good ideas but I just don't like how everything has come together in this game.
When Civ II came out I played it very often but Civ III has had trouble keeping my attention. The patches have done little to improve it for me. I gave it a 6 but it probably deserves a 6.5.
My criticism aside, it is 10X the game CTP or CTP2 ever were.
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April 29, 2002, 23:47
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Warlord
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Its a 7. Very good, not great. Yet. In a few months... who knows?
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April 29, 2002, 23:55
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King
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A few months... then we'll see.
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April 30, 2002, 00:30
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Chieftain
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8 Rarely does Civ 3 get removed from my computer.....except when my wife's mother sends pictures on disc....then my wife has the nerve to take up all MY precious space with flippin pictures...why in the world does she think she has the right to ta....here she comes....got to go.
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April 30, 2002, 04:38
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Deity
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Can you still build aircraft carriers before you can build planes?
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