Proposal thread: Game and forum rules and constitution for real at the end the final

James Adams · May 1, 2002, 05:51

rules and constitution will be set in stone, but any changes will need to be polled by members and agree by more than 1/2 of the membership!

The final version agreed by over five people here will be put before the members for any poll and over 1/2 of the membership most agree to it!

You have a week to have our discussion until the polls!

Marquis de Sodaq · May 1, 2002, 09:13

To start, you ought to dig up that thread containing a rough compilation of rules. It was a bit too heavy on the rules, but might be a framework upon which to start.

civman2000 · May 1, 2002, 12:05

I STRONGLY oppose the use of a strict constitution. I fear becoming an over-organized game!

civman2000 · May 1, 2002, 17:03

I hereby form the AAAC (Association of Apolytonians Against a Constitution)

shade · May 1, 2002, 17:48

I agree partially with Civman2000...
The rules should be not to strict but also not bend to extremes.
Best might be to dig up the old rules thread and go over all rules there and compair to how we did the things in the last months.

Shade

CannonFodder · May 1, 2002, 20:37

I agree that the rules should not be strict. We should simply glean what information we can from the original rules, reorganize what makes sense, and get rid of the dumb stuff, possibly adding rules that we think might be important. But I don't think that they should matter that much, a general framework is good enough.

MrWhereItsAt · May 1, 2002, 21:16

Well, we do have a few guidelines on responsibilities for the Advisors, and some common-sense stuff like "Presidents don't screw their people", but with one or two possible additions, we currently have next to no Constitution. It should be against the Constitution to have a Constitution!

civman2000 · May 1, 2002, 22:05

Civfanatics is an excellent place to look to find mistakes (not just for demo games, also for their civ3-stories board too!). I believe that because everyone understands the way it works and newcomers can pick it up quickly there should be no formal constitution

James Adams · May 2, 2002, 03:32

I agree that the rules should not be strict and should be able to be changed!

cavebear · May 2, 2002, 08:27

adamsj - I think you should form a Committee of Four to consider what should be in our Constitution. And be sure to include one person who doesn't think there *should* be a Constitution (so that it doesn't get out of hand).

You, of course, should head up this committee.

James Adams · May 2, 2002, 08:38

Quote:

Originally posted by cavebear
adamsj - I think you should form a Committee of Four to consider what should be in our Constitution. And be sure to include one person who doesn't think there *should* be a Constitution (so that it doesn't get out of hand).

You, of course, should head up this committee.

Who should be in the commitee? I will be head, but who should be the other three? Select by ourself members, it is up to you!

I will pick the three members who are mention the most to be in the committee, you have two days!

MrWhereItsAt · May 2, 2002, 09:04

I nominate civman2000 as a member of the officially unnamed "Anticonstitutionalists' party".

James Adams · May 2, 2002, 09:24

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Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
I nominate civman2000 as a member of the officially unnamed "Anticonstitutionalists' party".

That great That one vote for Civman2000!

Marquis de Sodaq · May 2, 2002, 10:07

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Originally posted by adamsj
Who should be in the commitee?

The Sodaquistas should have a committee member, as our influence spreads throughout Apolytonia...

James Adams · May 2, 2002, 10:10

Which and who is in the Sodaquistas?!

Marquis de Sodaq · May 2, 2002, 10:18

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Originally posted by adamsj
Which and who is in the Sodaquistas?!

The leader should be obvious

As for the others,

it's up to them to step forward.

James Adams · May 2, 2002, 10:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq

The leader should be obvious

As for the others,

it's up to them to step forward.

Ok! That one vote for you, but you do need to make voters vote for you. And who is in your political party!

Shadowlord · May 2, 2002, 10:51

I'm volunteering to be in the constitutional committe, as a proponent of a constitution in order to prevent problems and headaches. (Such as, a law like no running for more than 1 office per term, would prevent problems and headaches, without being overly restrictive or confusing.)

civman2000 · May 2, 2002, 10:59

The AAAC (so far just me and MWIA) wants to have a member in the comittee!

MrWhereItsAt · May 2, 2002, 11:17

I have thrown my Vice-Presidential weight (although in my personal and not necessarily professional hat ) behind you as candidate, civman2000.

/me puts on personal hat to support civman2000

Shaka Naldur · May 2, 2002, 19:15

why are we having political parties??

James Adams · May 3, 2002, 06:57

So to get more funny, and work done!

cavebear · May 3, 2002, 10:21

Quote:

Originally posted by adamsj

Who should be in the commitee? I will be head, but who should be the other three? Select by ourself members, it is up to you!

I will pick the three members who are mention the most to be in the committee, you have two days!

I think it would be good for you to pick 3 other Citizens who are most interested in participating. You could always list the interested candidates and then poll the people about them...

James Adams · May 3, 2002, 10:26

Quote:

Originally posted by cavebear

I think it would be good for you to pick 3 other Citizens who are most interested in participating. You could always list the interested candidates and then poll the people about them...

Vice President job, I think! (I think that shadowlord if he wants to be in the commitee, will be there automatically!)

MrWhereItsAt · May 3, 2002, 10:57

I can do that.

I could get my decisions under way when I have trawled through all the old threads and learned all I can about the past rules for this game (by the end of the weekend).

So... is it now my job?

civman2000 · May 3, 2002, 11:56

yes you can be the AAAC representative there

PS: check your cp...

cavebear · May 3, 2002, 19:45

In that case, I assign the responsibility to the Vice President...

Matticus · May 6, 2002, 22:56

I don't really like the idea of a constution either. Now that I think about it, a constution would hinder our fun. So count me in on the rolls of the AAAC.
More fun, less rules!!

civman2000 · May 7, 2002, 11:02

thank you for joining the AAAC!

James Adams · May 9, 2002, 05:13

Thank you for all who join my political party!