Temporary File Database

Locutus · May 5, 2002, 15:53

Since it's not possible to add files to the existing regular File Database and a new one is not yet ready for use (shouldn't be too long anymore though), I created a temporary database. You can find it at http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/.

If you have any files for the database (whether it is a 10k large mod that renames Spearman to Hoplite or a supermod like Cradle with all the graphics and videos and everything included), email me with the file itself or a link where I can download it (esp. for big files this latter technique might be wise). Alternatively you can post the necessary info in this thread. I know about a lot of stuff out there but I still want everyone to explicitly email me/post here: I don't want to have to hunt the whole Internet for files, I need your permission anyway, I'm certain to forget a mod or two if I am to contact you guys and noone knows better what mods you've made than you. So even if your mod happens to be the most important one in CtP2's history and it goes without saying that it should be in the database, email me/post here anyway. Same rules apply as mentioned on the database page, with some minor changes, I'll repost them here:

The info I need is:
- If it's a CtP1 or CtP2 file (or both)
- Title of mod
- Synopsis
- Contact name/handle (whichever you prefer)
- Contact email (if different from the one you're sending from)
- Category (see here for list)
- Version (if applicable)
- The file(s) for the database itself or a link to it/them
- Description (longer than synopsis, see existing database entries for examples)
- A forum thread URL where people can give feedback/report problems/etc (if applicable)

Note: don't use the form in the link I provided, it won't work. Email/PM/ICQ me or post in this thread instead.

Important notes
This database is open for everybody, that means that all files mailed to the database manager will be included regardless of their author, quality or content. However, the following rules apply:
* Files will not be included if the DB manager has the impression that the sender of the files is not the author and tries to get files listed under his name without the expressed approval of the author.
* The DB team will not do any playtesting of submitted files. If you need playtesters go to the CTP2 forums.
* Only finished files will be processed. If you consider your scenario a beta version which will be updated soon, please wait until playtesting is finished. You can send updated versions of existing files, but a certain period of time should have passed between updates. Note: the meaning of 'beta' over time has come to mean something slightly different from the industry standard; this rule basically means: don't send updates every other day (and make sure the files are not too buggy). Whether you call your file a beta or a low-quality release version is a matter of semantics.
* The DB team will not search any webpages for updates of existing files. Please re-submit the file if you have an update. Note: this rule is slightly different from the one mentioned in the database section.
* Submitted files will usually be processed and entered in the DB within 4 weeks. Please do not send e-mails asking when your file will show up. We will not answer such mails. Note: since the database is currently not fully operational, there's no telling how long it takes before your file is actually added to the database. However, I'll write some HTML pages or a forum thread from which the files can be accessed until then. At this point I can't give any guarantees in regard to time but I'll confirm your email if I receive it, if you've received confirmation you can be sure your file will be placed on the Apolyton server and (eventually) in the database.
* If your zip file is larger than 1 MB, please put the sound files into a separate zip file (aka secondary file). Note: scratch this rule. There are some mods out there that are 10-20 MB large so this won't help much. Try to put everything in files of at most 4-5MB large, or use some other sensible way to split things up (if you haven't done so already). I think Markos and I will need to discuss what to do with those really big mods when the new database is fully operational again. We'll first need to have an inventory of what is out there anyway, even I don't know exactly how large most mods are (I have cable so I never pay attention to it).

Attention Third-Party file senders: Please include with your submission and in your attached documentation the name and e-mail address of the author of the CTP2 file, so we can contact them to ensure that no future complications arise about the posting of the file(s). Thank you for you understanding in this matter.

Files Types:
* Maps=A map or set of maps, in Pack, Binary or Text form
* Maps/Binary=Map file or set of map files as saved from the "save map" feature of the editor
* Maps/Text=Map file in text format that can be imported in the game
* Maps/Packs=A map or set of maps, with just starting locations, no cities, no modified game files, put together as a pack
* Scenarios=Map with starting locations, specific cities, civs, etc, with or without modified game files
* Mods= Set of modified game files, put together as a pack. may include maps
* Modification= Files for modmakers or anyone wanting to modify CTP2. Units, graphics, utilities
* Official= Files by Activision.
* Miscellaneous= Various files that do not belong anywhere else

hexagonian · May 6, 2002, 10:19

Thank you!!!!!!

Pedrunn · May 8, 2002, 23:59

Locutus it is just too complicated. Dont you think we should also have the ability to attach our files in it. I tried to add my regard faces in it but i got lost. After filling in all the box and press Add Resource. It gave me an error saying:

Quote:

Unkown Tag: Requirement

Besides you are never going to test it all the files. And it is just a temporary/ unnoficial solution. We know who is part of the community (to rely) and who is not (to get suspicious).
We can police what is working and what is not through this thread in case of a mistake.

What do you think?

Dale · May 9, 2002, 00:04

Pedrunn:

Quote:

(Note: don't use the form in the link I provided, it won't work)

Sorry dude, the form doesn't work.

Locutus · May 12, 2002, 18:15

Pedrunn,
Dale is right, as I stated in my first post, that form doesn't work. Either post here or email me (or PM or ICQ, whatever you prefer).

All,
Database updated with files of Dale and Martin the Dane.

Pedrunn · May 13, 2002, 00:55

(I really should end with this idea of replying without reading the whole post

)
The info I need is:
- CtP2 File Only

- Title - Better Regard faces - by Pedrunn

- Synopsis - When i first played CTP2 and saw the regard faces. I said to myself: I cant barely see the differences among them. The CTP1 ones were much clear. So i rescued the CTP1's regard faces to CTP2.

- Contact name - Pedrunn

- E-mail - pedroguilherme@zipmail.com

- Type - Modification/Graphics

- Version - N/A

- Description - When i first played CTP2 and saw the regard faces. I said to myself: I cant barely see the differences among them. The CTP1 ones were much clear. So i rescued the CTP1's regard faces to CTP2.
This is actually a total replacement to the CTP2 regard faces. Once it is installed it will work in all mods and scenarios without exception. Even the regular game.
Just unzip it inside the Call to Power 2 base directory.
It will automactly be part integrant of all CTP2 mods in your PC.

- A forum thread - Any question or comments: See this thread Better Regard Faces

image -

File -

Locutus · May 13, 2002, 17:05

I added your mod to the database. The link to the picture is broken, so I had to use the default picture. If you give me a working picture I will replace it.

Pedrunn · May 13, 2002, 21:11

Here is the image:

Locutus · May 14, 2002, 02:39

It was a little too small but I resized and updated...

Martin Gühmann · May 14, 2002, 12:57

I have in Netscape 4.5 a problem when I click on this link:

Better Regard Faces

The page loads but when it is finish with loading than I only see the adds and the links to the rest of the CTP2 pages and to the other games on the top, but no synopsis no link to download the rest is just missing. It works with Netscape 6.2, but I think it should work also with Netscap 4.5, because the original database works also with Netscape 4.5.

BTW, when you will post the news items about all the new things and updates Locutus?

-Martin

Locutus · May 14, 2002, 15:01

Martin,
Just the Regard Faces one or all of them (just noticed the pic behaved a little odd in IE as well, will check that out).

Quote:

TW, when you will post the news items about all the new things and updates Locutus?

Patience, patience...

Martin Gühmann · May 14, 2002, 16:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Locutus
Martin,
Just the Regard Faces one or all of them (just noticed the pic behaved a little odd in IE as well, will check that out).

All of them.

-Martin

Locutus · May 14, 2002, 16:58

How about this? http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/faces/

Martin Gühmann · May 15, 2002, 11:48

Same behaviour it does work in Netscape 6.2 but does not work in Netscape 4.5.

-Martin

Martin Gühmann · June 27, 2002, 13:28

Quote:

Originally posted by Locutus
How about this? http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/faces/

It still does not work with Netscape 4.5 Locutus.

-Martin

Locutus · June 28, 2002, 18:26

I'm aware of that Martin, I haven't forgotten about this. I'm still working on it, more or les... The problem is that the headers and footers that I'm stuck with are apparently auto-generated by Frontpage or some similar sh*tty program and it's stuffed with bugs (stupid M$, always inventing their own standards, ignoring W3C

), I can't run a HTML verifivier over it, it gives all sorts of crap. Heck, for all I know the problem is in the header/footer...

Martin Gühmann · June 29, 2002, 12:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Locutus
I'm aware of that Martin, I haven't forgotten about this. I'm still working on it, more or les... The problem is that the headers and footers that I'm stuck with are apparently auto-generated by Frontpage or some similar sh*tty program and it's stuffed with bugs (stupid M$, always inventing their own standards, ignoring W3C

), I can't run a HTML verifivier over it, it gives all sorts of crap. Heck, for all I know the problem is in the header/footer...

This is a real problem with this M$ stuff, they gave it to regardless if you wanted it or not. I used the Netscape Composer of Netscape 4.5. To build my little homepage, but I must admit that this program may be a little bit to old for your purposes. So the only way to is what we all did with the CTP2 text files modifying them per hand, but unfortunatly not the best sollution either, as it is very time consumpting.

-Martin

Locutus · July 10, 2002, 08:11

Martin,
Sorry, I seem to have missed your last post. Yes, I *do* always make *all* my HTML code by hand, that's the best way IMHO and with programs such as EditPlus it's really easy to do as well. And after the coding I go through it with W3C's code verifier to make sure it's compatible with most browsers. Unfortunately Markos & Dan obviously don't do the coding by hand (or do any verification whatsoever) so the part of the pages that contains the adds and stuff, which I can't change, is all messed up and it's not easy for me to figure out how I have to do the manual coding to get everything straightened out. However, I think/hope a solution will be available soon...

Locutus · July 10, 2002, 08:47

I have to apologize to Markos, the error was not in his headers but in my own code, Markos pointed it out to me a few minutes ago (so he *does* read these forums, as we had no doubt all started to suspect

). I will fix the code tonight and hopefully even old Netscape users will then be able to use the temp DB...

(Doesn't mean the headers are still pretty crappy though

)

Locutus · July 10, 2002, 14:56

Martin (or anyone else who can check),
Does the database work okay in Netscape 4 now? All pages should have been fixed (I hope)...

Martin Gühmann · July 11, 2002, 04:29

I just tried it with Netscape 4.77 Linux version here from uni. So far no problems with displaying the pages.

There is only one thing that you should change know. Check out this page and you will see that there is the wrong image.
http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/Peloponese.php

-Martin

Locutus · July 11, 2002, 04:38

Good to hear it's working now...

I don't know how that pic mix-up happened, as I'm quite certain it was okay earlier, but it's been fixed now. Thanks for the heads up...

Locutus · July 23, 2002, 18:42

Now the new directory is *finally* online (we were working on this for a long, long time - that explains why I was so lazy in updating this database: for months we thought we could be ready for the official opening within days), this thread will soon be uptopped and possibly closed. Since I know CtP2ers don't like to venture outside their own forums,

I'll leave this place here for a few more days to serve as an announcement and (if people need it) a place for discussion about the new file database:
The Apolyton Directory - http://apolyton.net/dir
See the Community Forum for details.

Martin Gühmann · July 25, 2002, 15:56

So when you will move all the files from the pld database to the new one Locutus?

-Martin

Locutus · July 25, 2002, 16:55

'pld'? The old database you mean? I'm afraid I have no control over that, that's up to Markos. All existing databases have a similar structure, Markos is writing some script to do the importing automatically. All I can do is move the temp database there (which I already did months ago) and keep adding new files.

Martin Gühmann · July 25, 2002, 17:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Locutus
'pld'? The old database you mean? I'm afraid I have no control over that, that's up to Markos. All existing databases have a similar structure, Markos is writing some script to do the importing automatically. All I can do is move the temp database there (which I already did months ago) and keep adding new files.

These stupid typos, the 'o' key is beside the 'p' key.

But anyway thanks to let us know you aren't responsible for that part.

-Martin

Locutus · July 25, 2002, 17:10

D'oh!

Yeap, now you can start bugging Markos

Martin Gühmann · July 25, 2002, 17:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Locutus
Yeap, now you can start bugging Markos

That's an interesting idea, and now I wonder what I could do now as I finished the tourny game.

-Martin

Locutus · July 25, 2002, 17:45

Well, don't him I give you that idea

Martin Gühmann · July 25, 2002, 18:21

I think I will leave it to the post I made in the thread about it. But another question do you have access on the links on the CTP2 news page so that you can modify it so that the Apolyton directory is linked from that page.

-Martin