May 6, 2002, 08:27
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The Worthlessness of Arts Degrees
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May 6, 2002, 08:29
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I hate arts, I kicked arts at school. Though I need to go on with Music until the end of this term. And in just 20 minutes, another doublepack of music lessons is just starting, 90 minutesof suffering. 8 more times till the end of the term 
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May 6, 2002, 08:30
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A Liberial Arts degree indicates that the holder has "learned how to learn". I hardly see how that is useless. 
(if that is what you're talking about)
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May 6, 2002, 08:30
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They're almost as worthless as business/economics degrees.
Almost. 
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May 6, 2002, 08:31
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2/10
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May 6, 2002, 08:31
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You're not supposed to rate your own trolls, dearie.
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May 6, 2002, 08:31
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They are very good since they improve your chances of getting hired by a console game company.
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May 6, 2002, 09:43
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arts degree is the first step on the thorny path of becoming an accountant
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joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement. I read most of your post with amusement however.
You are so anti-america that having a conversation with you would be poinless. You may or maynot feel you are an enemy of the United States, I don't care either way. However if I still worked for the Goverment I would turn over your e-mail address to my bosses and what ever happen, happens.
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May 6, 2002, 10:00
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Arts Degrees provide the most employment.
Another Boldington theory shot down in flames.
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May 6, 2002, 10:07
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Originally posted by LaRusso
arts degree is the first step on the thorny path of becoming an accountant
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May 6, 2002, 10:11
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they give rich kids something to do while they figure out which one of Daddys contacts to go work for
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May 6, 2002, 10:11
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Yeah, explain yourself, AH. 
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May 6, 2002, 10:14
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they give rich kids something to do while they figure out which one of Daddys contacts to go work for
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'Cos it takes a while for them to figure out: "The Richest One"
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May 6, 2002, 10:23
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I like how he just thinks of a topic and tells us to "discuss". 
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May 6, 2002, 10:27
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Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
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you get an arts degree
you get out of uni
you get some additional training
you start bean counting
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joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement. I read most of your post with amusement however.
You are so anti-america that having a conversation with you would be poinless. You may or maynot feel you are an enemy of the United States, I don't care either way. However if I still worked for the Goverment I would turn over your e-mail address to my bosses and what ever happen, happens.
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May 6, 2002, 10:37
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"you get an arts degree
you get out of uni
you get some additional training
you start bean counting"
Yep. That's the way it works.
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May 6, 2002, 10:43
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I thought all brittish art students started bands with their art-school friends and ended up as rich. 
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May 6, 2002, 10:50
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just figured it's only 5 more double lessons of music
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May 6, 2002, 10:52
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Yes, when people just list a topic and say discuss without posting their own opinion, it's obvious that they don't have the brains to form one themselves. No surprise in this case 
They are far from worthless. When you're out job hunting, any degree will place you far ahead of those that don't have one.
Many many peoples first job has nothing to do with what the degree was. And even if it does, many people have said that it really didn't prepare them. A degree gets you in the door, experience will take over after that.
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May 6, 2002, 10:59
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In the US, 2/3rd of all degree holders are in positions unrelated to their degree.
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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May 6, 2002, 11:01
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similar here... my father is some engineer of some kind, got a master degree in that in Poland back in the 70s. nowadays he sits in office for an energy trading company
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May 6, 2002, 11:02
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And you can't do a blanket "Arts Degrees". My degree is a BA, but it's hardly of the style of a "History of Art".
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May 6, 2002, 11:05
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Originally posted by Carver
A Liberial Arts degree indicates that the holder has "learned how to learn".
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Maybe this is oldfashioned, but here we'd say you should have learned that when you got through highschool at the latest....
Dan: "In the US, 2/3rd of all degree holders are in positions unrelated to their degree."
Can you split that into a nr for university degrees (specialised in something) and college degrees (finally learned how to read, write and count) ?
Ok, sorry for the troll, but how does this 2/3rd share vary across degrees ?
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May 6, 2002, 11:18
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I steadfastly refuse to back up my statistics.
And there's a difference between "University" and "College" degrees? 
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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May 6, 2002, 11:22
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"I steadfastly refuse to back up my statistics."
Still looking for a job in the Bush admin, hmm ?
"And there's a difference between "University" and "College" degrees?"
I'm always hoplessly confused by your academic system (or lack of system). The rather broad college degrees (arts bachelor) vs law or med school, for example.
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May 6, 2002, 11:40
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BA degrees are definitely not worthless.
I'm going for a BA in History, then later, go for a Phd in graduate school to work towards my goal of becoming an underpaid professor and teach undergrad students U.S. history.
Something that I believe I will enjoy working in.
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May 6, 2002, 12:03
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Originally posted by MrFun
BA degrees are definitely not worthless.
I'm going for a BA in History, then later, go for a Phd in graduate school to work towards my goal of becoming an underpaid professor and teach undergrad students U.S. history.
Something that I believe I will enjoy working in.
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Don't do it, Mr. Fun. I'm a history major too, but I'm going to stay as far from academia as I possibly can. Bad job prospects, crappy pay, and having to deal with frat boys on a daily basis is enough to make me run far, far away.
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May 6, 2002, 12:05
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I'm always hoplessly confused by your academic system (or lack of system). The rather broad college degrees (arts bachelor) vs law or med school, for example.
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Typical, just because you don't understand it, you claim there is no system. 
I'll try the easiest one for you.
B.A. bachelor of arts (includes foreign language classes)
B.S. Bachelor of science (substitute computer languages or extra math and science clases for foreign language classes)
Other than that, they're the same. SIMPLE
I have a B.S. which I always feel is very appropriate. 
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May 6, 2002, 12:08
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I have a B.S. which I always feel is very appropriate.
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I would have thought that Ming would have been the one to have a BS.
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May 6, 2002, 12:10
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Don't do it, Mr. Fun. I'm a history major too, but I'm going to stay as far from academia as I possibly can. Bad job prospects, crappy pay, and having to deal with frat boys on a daily basis is enough to make me run far, far away.
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I know I am going to be underpaid, but I would rather do something that I believe I will enjoy.
Until I find a university to work for after graduate school, I can find some other full-time job while searching for the right university.
I am well aware of the attitude of students who just want to "get through" their required history course. But there are also students who are not sure what they want to do as freshmen, and then they end up becoming history majors.
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