Now that we know there will be 8 civs, its time for a poll on who they should be...

Jaguar · May 6, 2002, 17:35

Pick your favorite 8

Jaguar · May 6, 2002, 17:50

And, in case firaxis didn't already realize it, there is strong support for including Spain.

Kataphraktoi · May 6, 2002, 17:54

whats the percentages for?carthage,spain and mongol have 100.00%...but they dont have 100% of the votes.....

asleepathewheel · May 6, 2002, 18:00

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Originally posted by Cataphract887
whats the percentages for?carthage,spain and mongol have 100.00%...but they dont have 100% of the votes.....

At this point, there have been 5 total voters, each of whom has voted for those civs. each voter can vote for as many (or as few) as he wants.

Jaguar · May 6, 2002, 18:04

BTW I know I didn't pick Judea or Israel, but there weren't enough poll options. Same with Australia and Brazil and the Apache.

d_dudy · May 6, 2002, 18:55

well i'm just concerned with spain and the incas. hopefully they'll make a native american culture group and put the US back with western europe. maybe they can make an eastern europe group too or something. 2 african civs wouldn't be a bad idea, just so they can make an african culture so the zulu aren't with the persians and babylonians, which is rediculous anyway. the arabs could go with that group, though.

i also voted for the turks and mongols, good additions i'd say. i'm not too concerned about carthage or the others though.

kring · May 6, 2002, 19:52

I will vote after I see some kind of official decision from Civ 3. The reason for this is simple: will Firaxis/Infogrames listen to the fans on which 8? Probably not. We have had limited success on many things we have encouraged them to do. We being the Civ 3 communities: Apolyton, 1BigCommunity, CivFanatics, etc. We also being when large segments of these communities have made the same comments/requests.

It is extremely likely the 8 have already been decided; otherwise, they are way premature in such a release of information, what little there was.

civman2000 · May 6, 2002, 22:08

i voted for carthage (and a bunch of others) but I would not support a "carthaginian" civ, only a phoenician civ

Thrawn05 · May 6, 2002, 22:25

Celts. Since it's the clostest thing to Irish.

Erin go bra.... less.

Thrawn05 · May 6, 2002, 22:40

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Originally posted by d_dudy
well i'm just concerned with spain and the incas. hopefully they'll make a native american culture group and put the US back with western europe. maybe they can make an eastern europe group too or something. 2 african civs wouldn't be a bad idea, just so they can make an african culture so the zulu aren't with the persians and babylonians, which is rediculous anyway. the arabs could go with that group, though.

I was doing some thinking in those lines as well. Here is my list on my own version of which civ gets what culture group. (* denotes new civ).

Americans:
Iraqious
Aztecs
*Inca
*Maya

Western Europe:
England
France
Americans
*Spain
*Celts

Eastern Europe:
Germany
Russia
*Poland

Med. Sea:
Roma
Greece
*Carthage

Africa:
Zulu
Egypt
*Ethiopia

Middle East:
Persians
Babs
India

Asia:
China
Japan
*Mongols

Tingkai · May 6, 2002, 23:01

Thrawn05: replace Poland with the Vikings and you may have it right. After all, if Germany can be considered Eastern European then so can the Vikings. I can't see Poland being included. Not enough interest in them.

Metaliturtle · May 6, 2002, 23:44

I just want to see a return to the Viking Scribes

VIKINGS 4 EVAH

Grrr · May 7, 2002, 00:18

Suoix? That's culturally insensitive.

I want Ethiopians.

Miznia · May 7, 2002, 04:31

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BTW I know I didn't pick Judea or Israel, but there weren't enough poll options. Same with Australia and Brazil and the Apache.

Apache???

I voted Spanish/Arabs/Incas/other African/Koreans, but:
1. I pray "other African" does not mean Ethiopia
2. If Arabs are out, then I would vote Turks.

Tiberius · May 7, 2002, 05:05

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Polish/Dutch/Other Euro civ

Hungarians\Magyars

Jethro83 · May 7, 2002, 06:29

Hopefully, they will make a civ editor similar to the smax faction editor that will allow the stable creation of extra civs. They should also include the ability to create new cultural groups. That would make modding a whole lot easier, especially fantasy mods where 4 cultural groups aren't enough for the many races there may be.

Anyway, I voted Spaniards, Vikings, Celts, Carthaginians, Mongols, Incas, Arabs, Turks as my best 8 out of those options.

Thrawn05 · May 7, 2002, 16:22

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Originally posted by Tingkai
Thrawn05: replace Poland with the Vikings and you may have it right. After all, if Germany can be considered Eastern European then so can the Vikings. I can't see Poland being included. Not enough interest in them.

Because to me, the Vikings were just a bunch of Barbarians. But that's just an opinion.

Dom Pedro II · May 7, 2002, 16:38

I like the idea of the Hebrews...

Byzantines?

They were an off-shoot of the Roman Empire. Unnecessary. chuck 'em!

Calgacus NM · May 7, 2002, 19:09

In case no-one knows, there is another poll on the civfanatics general discussions forum. There are 20 different options. The link is below:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...0&pagenumber=4

It is interesting to note that the Spanish are the clear leaders.

Oerdin · May 7, 2002, 19:24

If we can't have the Scots then let's atleast include the Celts.

Zealot · May 8, 2002, 07:10

I refuse to vote in a Poll who doesn't mention Portugal!

Otherwise I would be historically ignorant!

DrFell · May 8, 2002, 08:45

Who couldn't include Spain though?

Dalai Lama · May 8, 2002, 10:06

I believe Spain and the Mongols are the biggest left-outs.

But what about the Belgians? Why did the allies win the first World War? Yes, because we hold the Germans off in "Flanders fields"...
I still have some IDLE hope they get included someday...
Never give up, never surrender!!!

Mikhail · May 9, 2002, 01:18

Dom Pedro: Off-shoot of Rome? o_O I guess you could say that, if it wasn't for the fact they were a distinct culture and empire for 1000 years AFTER the Fall of the Roman empire. America was just an 'off-shoot' of English, take them out of the game, eh?

They were one of the richest and longest standing empires in the history of the Middle Ages. Aside from the fact that they were an intellectual and economic powerhouse until the twelfth century, they're also more or less responsible for the spread and developement of Christianity for 300 years after Rome fell.

Oh yes, and then there's a little thing called the Hagia Sophia, in that 'Constantinople' city....

If anything, chuck Rome, include Byzantium. (well...that's a bit extreme, but to include Poland, the Celts, or many of the suggested and included civs, over the Byzantines? I don't think so.)

Calgacus NM · May 9, 2002, 01:34

Quote:

Spanish 54 83.08%
Arabs 38 58.46%
Byzantine 15 23.08%
Ottoman/Turk 28 43.08%
Vikings 46 70.77%
Polish/Dutch/Other Euro civ 14 21.54%
Ethiopians/other new African civ 25 38.46%
Mayans 15 23.08%
Celts 27 41.54%
Khmer/Thai/Other Asian 13 20.00%
Mongols 45 69.23%
Koreans 21 32.31%
Inca 45 69.23%
Souix 9 13.85%
Tupi/Other American civ 4 6.15%
Carthage 31 47.69%
Total: 65 voters 100%

How does the mathematics of that poll work?

Panag · May 9, 2002, 08:28

hi ,

maybe we should ask for a total of 32 civ's , ....

however there should be like a total of 50 or so , so that one can chose the ones he wants , ...

have a nice day

kring · May 9, 2002, 12:02

They will probably develop several expansion packs, each with "x" number of civs; the max playable may still be 16 (or whatever).

If incorporated correctly, you could choose whichever civs you wanted in each game. Considering how many good possibilities, this could lead to a lot of expansion packs.

What would be even better is to have open slots, where some of the modders could insert their own into a game. I know this is now possible, in a sense, but it is not very easy or user friendly for those people that are tech challenged.

Same thing applies to adding units, improvements, etc.

Ecthy · May 10, 2002, 09:02

Spanish
Arabs
Vikings
Ethiopians
Celts
Mongols
Inca
Carthage

Ethiopians might be replaced by Turks though, either of them would be cool

Darkworld Ark · May 10, 2002, 16:04

I myself would like to see the Spanish (UU-Concesadore or Spanish Galleon), Arabs (UU-A swordsman with a Scimitar), Ottoman/Turks (UU-Something to do with WW1), Norse/Viking (UU-Longship, can go on sea tiles without Astronomy), Mayans (UU-?), Mongols (UU-Mongul Riders), Inca (UU-Something like the Jaguar Warrior), & one you don't have on the list, Canada (UU-Hockey Player, now hear me out here. Each Hockey unit would count as a hockey team, & along with proving some defense, each unit would increase the happiness in whatever city they're fortified in, depending on it's level. This of course opens the door to my "Sports Team" unit, which would have the "no war" attack effect of priveteers, but I'll save that for later. Having Canada as a civ would also allow me to Nuke Canada

).

Panag · May 10, 2002, 16:15

hi ,

what about the hebrews / jews / Israelites , ...

have a nice day