City Names

cavebear · May 6, 2002, 20:24

Read this before you vote!

I would like to do 2 things.

First, simplify 2 city names. Second, honor former President Shade with a city name.

The first part is the 2 cities that we moved slightly. The citizens of those cities wish to return to the original names. Their argument is that they merely moved their city, not re-established them. I have to agree that there is something to be said for the original names. "Neo" and "New", however well-intentioned, get in the way and can confuse things with the first 3 letter similarity.

The second part is to continue a habit established many turns ago. In traditional Civilizations, coins are used to honor previous leaders. We do not have that opportunity here. Instead, we have named cities. I think that is a fine tradition and we should continue it.

But we have an awkward situation. One of the forward cities is already named "Shadow", and not after our previous President. Normally, it could be renamed, yet the pair have such a perfect match that I am reluctant to change them. Still, "Shadow" starts with the same letters as "Shade" and that would cause confusion also.

So, I propose that "Shadow" be renamed "Darkness" (to fit with "Light"), and that Rivertown be renamed "Shade".

Nimitz · May 6, 2002, 20:47

Yes, give those cities there old names get rid of that neo and new.

cavebear · May 6, 2002, 21:40

And former President Shade?

ixnay · May 6, 2002, 21:51

It all sounds good to me.

civman2000 · May 6, 2002, 22:04

no leave em alone!

Inverse Icarus · May 6, 2002, 22:08

Shade was a dark age for Apolytonia. We should exile him to Egypt right before we swarm.

bwaaaahahaha.

i love trolling the fun

CannonFodder · May 6, 2002, 22:18

I suggest we call it Shadeskigrad or Shadegrad. Get rid of the Neo and New, and change Shadow to Darkness.

James Adams · May 7, 2002, 05:47

I agree to the middle opinions but we should name our next city Rivertown or what "shade" will be! And get rid of Neo or new!

-Jrabbit · May 7, 2002, 08:06

Neo & New =

Change back!
Darkness =

Rivertown = Leave it alone!
Elephantine = suggested future "Shade" for it was under his reign that our plan of conquest was hatched.

One of the proposed new city sites would be OK too.

...and history demands that we not forget BloomIII

shade · May 7, 2002, 08:41

seems like I vote different from the rest of our ppl.
I say leave Rivertown alone.(It has it's name,we know where it lies and if we start changing names dramatically every new governement it will become total confussion for everyone...even the ministers)
You can get rid of the Neo and New(actually they both mean new)...I just added this to show it weren't the original cities...but as cities grow they may encompas their former grounds.

About Shadow and Light I just ask you to say this out loud
Shadow and Light
or
Darkness and Light
Wich wone sounds best???
(probably No 1) that's the reason why they are called that way.
You can say that you want to honor me by naming a city after me and that then those first 3 letter might give some confussion...but have you all forgotten Shaka Naldur...or will he not be honored.

Shade

-Jrabbit · May 7, 2002, 09:09

Uh, actually, shade, we've got Nalduria.

*(-Jrabbit shakes head sadly

, contemplates possible cause of ex-Prez's memory loss.

)

Marquis de Sodaq · May 7, 2002, 09:52

Well, then, Shade, how about...

Schaduw

First 3 letters are unique, the name is yours, nobody else can pronounce it!

civman2000 · May 7, 2002, 11:04

see! shade doesnt even want a city named after him directly, so you shouldnt do it!

Zealot · May 7, 2002, 12:52

Where's my banana option?

CannonFodder · May 7, 2002, 13:13

Shade, your gonna miss out on the fun. If you keep insisting on not naming something more directly after yourself, then so will everyone else!!!

civman2000 · May 7, 2002, 16:36

if he doesnt want them named after him they shouldn't be named after him!!!

Inverse Icarus · May 7, 2002, 17:06

call it "&Not Shade". underline the N for effect.

shade · May 7, 2002, 17:28

Quote:

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Uh, actually, shade, we've got Nalduria.

*(-Jrabbit shakes head sadly

, contemplates possible cause of ex-Prez's memory loss.

)

I know but who says he will stay citizen forever? Maybe he will be president again(or do some other job and make a crucial decision)that make's us consider naming an other city after him.
What will we call it?Naldur's town? Nalduria secundus?
Or shaka city?
all three give 'problems' for the units-home...
I think we should rather take some time(or the president should) to take a look at our cities and which city has wich unit and where hey are stationed.(always nice to rehome some units to stay out of problems)

==> So dear historian don't worry about my mind it's still working great.

I just don't see the fuss all are making.

Quote:

Well, then, Shade, how about...

schaduw

First 3 letters are unique, the name is yours, nobody else can pronounce it!

That's a good name...no problem with those first 3 letters,not 1 English word even uses that combination to start(as far as I know)...and there will be at least 2 ppl who can pronounce it: me and MdS.

I love it.(would be nice in this row: Umbra, Shadow, Schaduw...

)

Quote:

Shade, your gonna miss out on the fun. If you keep insisting on not naming something more directly after yourself, then so will everyone else!!!

I have no problem with naming a city directly after me,I don't use the 3letter shortcut for units(If I want to know where it comes from just click

)

Quote:

call it "&Not Shade". underline the N for effect.

Sounds good to...but I like "Schaduw" beter...but don't let this hold any-one back to name eg 2 cities after me:
"Schaduw" and "Not-Shade"

Shade

cavebear · May 7, 2002, 19:30

Quote:

Originally posted by shade
That's a good name...no problem with those first 3 letters,not 1 English word even uses that combination to start(as far as I know)...and there will be at least 2 ppl who can pronounce it: me and MdS.

I love it.(would be nice in this row: Umbra, Shadow, Schaduw...

)

Well, actually, scheme, schism, school, and schedule come to mind, but that's OK.

CannonFodder · May 7, 2002, 20:35

LOL

shade · May 8, 2002, 02:04

Quote:

Originally posted by cavebear
Well, actually, scheme, schism, school, and schedule come to mind, but that's OK.

now you mention it

but there the sch sounds like 'sk'
in Dutch it's something like 'sh' and add some "g" sound

Shade

James Adams · May 8, 2002, 04:58

Let the people who polled decide!

shade · May 8, 2002, 13:55

I hope those votes change quickly ... Darkness and Light really sounds...bad?strange?=> not good.

Shade

Shaka Naldur · May 8, 2002, 15:08

change the names of shadow and light
one Mbloomia (he was president for a while after all)
and the other one ShadeCity

for example

I don´t like the options on the poll...

leave rivertown alone

shade · May 8, 2002, 15:21

about the city-renaming shouldn't we limit that to foreign conquered cities?(I'm afraid this, what we are doing now, might lead to a renaming race each time we get a new prez...)
This is really like for impatient kids,we want to honor someone and we want to do it now,immediatly,now... why can't we just wait untill we build new cities or conquer other ones.(there are many to be build and to conquer,I guess it should not be a problem to have ~5 to 10 new cities(conquered and build) at the end of this term.)

=> like our wise historian said in an other thread:
"Patience, Grasshopper. Patience."

these are my last words on this topic.

Shade

CannonFodder · May 8, 2002, 16:09

Quote:

Originally posted by shade
about the city-renaming shouldn't we limit that to foreign conquered cities?(I'm afraid this, what we are doing now, might lead to a renaming race each time we get a new prez...)
This is really like for impatient kids,we want to honor someone and we want to do it now,immediatly,now... why can't we just wait untill we build new cities or conquer other ones.(there are many to be build and to conquer,I guess it should not be a problem to have ~5 to 10 new cities(conquered and build) at the end of this term.)

=> like our wise historian said in an other thread:
"Patience, Grasshopper. Patience."

these are my last words on this topic.

Shade

Damn right!!!

CannonFodder · May 8, 2002, 16:10

I have an even better idea-why don't we let the minister of Imperial Expansion decide new names for cities? Heh heh heh.

civman2000 · May 8, 2002, 18:17

mbloom? when was he prez???

cavebear · May 8, 2002, 18:50

If Shade doesn't want a city named after him (at least for now), that is OK with me. I just wanted to show our respect for a fine President.

Inverse Icarus · May 8, 2002, 19:49

Quote:

Originally posted by cavebear
If Shade doesn't want a city named after him (at least for now), that is OK with me. I just wanted to show our respect for a fine President.

or a losey tyrant. the polish under shade's rule will killed by the droves.