May 20, 2002, 17:46
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Prince
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PTW screenshots reveal new Civs
The PTW screenshots posted at Adrenaline Vault reveal some of the new Civilizations in the expansion pack:
Vikings
Spanish
Mongols
Carthaginians
They also show at least two new tile improvements:
Airport
Radar tower
Plus, there are some new buttons on the main screen:
next/last city
next/last unit
and others.
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May 20, 2002, 18:45
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King
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I hate to pay again for a game I already have, but it looks good so far.
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May 20, 2002, 20:00
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Wooooo hooooooo!!!! Airports! It's about time!
Spanish UU... Conquistador.. a 5.3.3... is that a new knight? 3 movement and attack of 5? Sheesh.
From the player setup screen, it looks as though you can't play custom maps or scenarios... Hmmm...
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May 20, 2002, 20:02
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Prince
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Looks great so far.
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May 20, 2002, 20:20
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airports should be worth about as much as paratroopers are now.
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May 20, 2002, 20:46
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I think that's why they didn't implemented it in the original game, but you know how a demanding fan can be loud
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May 20, 2002, 20:47
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Prince
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Sorry for the redundant thread here.  I haven't been reading the PTW forum, so I didn't see that looong thread on new civs.
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May 20, 2002, 21:35
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It also showed the Viking UU, the Berserk and the Mongol, some sort of horseman/mounted archer. The Spanish conquistidor does surprise me however, I was hoping for a Tercio.
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May 20, 2002, 22:19
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Originally posted by Rust
airports should be worth about as much as paratroopers are now.
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i assume you mean paratroopers are worth jack poopie
but actually airbases could be useful, it would move the aircraft's base of operations a few spaces foward (for defense) and would provide allies a way of sharing land (if you cant garrison allied cities)
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May 20, 2002, 22:46
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Civs we 100% know are there:
1. Spain (UU, leaderhead, civ name in corner of screenshot)
2. Mongols (ditto)
3. Carthaginian (MP setup).
Civs we are almost sure of:
4. Koreans (UU image)
5. Celts (leader mentioned at infrogrames)
6. Vikings (city names in screenshot)
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May 21, 2002, 05:01
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Originally posted by Trip
Spanish UU... Conquistador.. a 5.3.3... is that a new knight? 3 movement and attack of 5? Sheesh.
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No, it's a weakened cavalry.
Seriously, it can't be a knight, as Spain is just researching Feudalism. So they must
- either have substantially changed the tech tree (chivalry before feudalism?  )
- or substantially have changed the A/D/R values of all units, bacause an ancient (pre-feudal) 5/3/3 unit would be extremely imbalancing with the existing unit values.
- or have faked that image (most likely).
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May 21, 2002, 05:31
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Prince
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The stats of the Conquistador can't be in concrete at this stage. They might reconsider and give them different stats.
The only things I see as concrete so far are the four civs already mentioned and their leaders.
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May 21, 2002, 08:28
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Deity
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Looks great, except that new terrain graphic...that looks awfull, but at present time I think I'll proberly buy it...
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May 21, 2002, 08:34
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Originally posted by ADG
Looks great, except that new terrain graphic...that looks awfull, but at present time I think I'll proberly buy it...
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Yeah, the terrain is definitely ugly. But that's why we have Sn00py, right?
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May 21, 2002, 11:03
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Seriously, it can't be a knight, as Spain is just researching Feudalism. So they must
- either have substantially changed the tech tree (chivalry before feudalism? )
- or substantially have changed the A/D/R values of all units, bacause an ancient (pre-feudal) 5/3/3 unit would be extremely imbalancing with the existing unit values.
- or have faked that image (most likely).
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True, you're probably right. They've probably done some modding of their own. That has to be a modded knight... there's no way they'd give us a 5.3.3 Horsemen variant, no matter how much they've changed things. We'll just have to wait and see I guess...
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May 21, 2002, 11:31
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Trip: Not quite sure about this. If you look at that Mongolian UU (lazy to look up the name now), it clearly looks like a horseman derivate and it's IIRC a 4/2/2 unit. But, may be this one is faked or modded too.
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May 21, 2002, 12:12
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maybe it's like what i said on the main screenshots page about the keshik: Keshik replaces BOTH horsemen and knights; conquistadors replace BOTH knights and cavalry. Although they are much stronger than the first, they are a bit weaker than the second
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May 21, 2002, 12:47
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It's also possible they are UUs which require more resources as the UUs they replace : maybe the Keshik replace horsemen, but requires iron as well as horses. Maybe the Conquistadores require saltpeter, as well as horses and iron (or maybe they require "dogs" as a new resource  )
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May 21, 2002, 13:27
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Hrrmmphhh. I hope they release more information. All this speculation is getting my antsy.
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