May 23, 2002, 16:13
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i think ming feels the same way about me
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May 23, 2002, 16:14
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Good call Che. I was trying to put my finger on what disturbed me about that scene. Other than the generic bad acting, of course.
*Adds a new reason to his list of reasons to not watch the final SW installment*
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May 23, 2002, 16:38
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Doesn't it strike anyone as strange that the gentiles seem to care more about this particular offense than the Jews do?
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May 23, 2002, 16:40
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noone cares
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May 23, 2002, 16:41
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che does.
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May 23, 2002, 16:42
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and MarkG gives me PCR whenever I post outside the OT... I'm trapped
And I don't care either, I like a good stereotype parody
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May 23, 2002, 16:44
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che isnt noone
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May 23, 2002, 16:44
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Me too, little Easty. Now don't fly off the handle...
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May 23, 2002, 17:09
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Just wondering Chegitz, did you also get offended at the traditional movie showing Germans as the chief bad guy?
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May 23, 2002, 17:10
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Originally posted by Caligastia
Hahaha...Im not falling for that.
Here is a pic from my recent trip to europe:
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Looks more like a piss-take mock-up than a proper European location. If it is Europe, I would guess the Netherlands.
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May 23, 2002, 17:36
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Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
Looks more like a piss-take mock-up than a proper European location. If it is Europe, I would guess the Netherlands.
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You got it! It was in Amsterdam. I had to take a picture when I saw the signs on that place.
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May 23, 2002, 21:13
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Creativity and imagination are horribly poor these times on the movies' screens...
But if every time anyone do anything, there is thousands of people that will dissect everything in what was done just to look for something to be offended, I can understand the lack of personnality that new productions have these days.
When I see people that are disturbed because population in Civ3 is assimilated over time, or like here where people look for racist stereotypes to be offended about, I think all the more that PC is definitaly boring to death.
Darn, I did not even thought about this "antisemic stereotyping". It seems that it's noticed just by people who looks for it.
Get a life and stop being paranoids, pals. I'm sure you have plenty other things to do.
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May 23, 2002, 21:20
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Che, are you drunk again?
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You know, I didn't even know Watto was a "Stereotypical representation of a Jew" until someone pointed it out, and I still don't see it.
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Same here. Watto was Arab to me... hell, it fits, slave trader, accent, etc.
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May 23, 2002, 21:27
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Ooh, ya, Jar Jar oppose stereotype, yah? How rude!
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May 23, 2002, 21:58
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Everyone:
That's ODD. When I watched "AotC," all I saw was Watto. A kind-of-ugly squattish alien on Tattooine (sp) with a broken tooth whose pursuits in life were less than altruistic.
Did I miss something? Was I brainwashed by George Lucas into hating Jews and/or Arabs? I am I now supposed to think less of Asians in general because some fictional characters in a fictional galaxy set far, far away and a long time ago had the "wrong" accent and the "wrong" look? Gee. I guess it was a mistake to see Trade Federation representativs for what they were — Trade Federation representatives.
If you ask me, the political correctness crowd sometimes is more guilty of stereotyping than those they point an accusing finger at. Particularly in this case.
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May 23, 2002, 23:45
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Originally posted by Gatekeeper
Everyone:
That's ODD. When I watched "AotC," all I saw was Watto. A kind-of-ugly squattish alien on Tattooine (sp) with a broken tooth whose pursuits in life were less than altruistic.
Did I miss something? Was I brainwashed by George Lucas into hating Jews and/or Arabs? I am I now supposed to think less of Asians in general because some fictional characters in a fictional galaxy set far, far away and a long time ago had the "wrong" accent and the "wrong" look? Gee. I guess it was a mistake to see Trade Federation representativs for what they were — Trade Federation representatives.
If you ask me, the political correctness crowd sometimes is more guilty of stereotyping than those they point an accusing finger at. Particularly in this case.
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the secodn i heard the trade federation guys speak in episiode 1, i looked at my Chinese friend and said "damn, that worldwide revolution went intergalactic or somethin". he then threw popcorn at me for a good ten minutes.
on a side note he's been calling me "polack" for a month now, so i call him "charlie" despite all the historical errors. (i still say he's half cambodian )
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May 24, 2002, 00:23
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Originally posted by GP
CG blows. It's for wimpy kids. Bring back real video in the wonder movies!!!
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SMAC wonder videos were great! Take it back.
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May 24, 2002, 00:36
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Well, I can't take it back. I could put in a smalle caveat or reservation or other weasely clause. [/Robin Williamish impression of Bill Buckley as a jinni]
I never saw SMAC. Just Civ2. I really liked the Darwin video. With the overhead shot of the monkey, etc. And I really liked the UN video with the pictures of the helos moving out and the blue helmet dudes...
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May 24, 2002, 00:37
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Liked UN a lot. Also liked Adam Smith for music..
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May 24, 2002, 00:37
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the secodn i heard the trade federation guys speak in episiode 1, i looked at my Chinese friend and said "damn, that worldwide revolution went intergalactic or somethin". he then threw popcorn at me for a good ten minutes.
on a side note he's been calling me "polack" for a month now, so i call him "charlie" despite all the historical errors. (i still say he's half cambodian )
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May 24, 2002, 00:40
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Liked UN a lot. Also liked Adam Smith for music..
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Concur...oh we should get pc for this...
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May 24, 2002, 00:42
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Sometimes would build wonder just to see video/feel good. Did that for all physics wonders...
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May 24, 2002, 00:45
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I think I'll start thread asking for favourite wonder movies of all time (from Civ series + SMAC + CtP series). Where does something like that go? I guess I'll put it in Civ3 General...
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May 24, 2002, 01:06
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I 've done that thread before in the Civ2 days. And seen in it repeat.
haven't seen it for all civ games, yet.
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May 24, 2002, 08:24
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I just saw Dr Dolittle 2 on tv, and they had a monkey on there stereotyping the french. He was dressed in french clothes and was always getting drunk. Of course, thats not offensive to you is it Chegitz? Its ok to make fun of white cultures.
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May 24, 2002, 13:37
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I haven't seen Dr Dolittle 2. Can't comment on it.
Shi Huangdi, I don't have a problem with Germans being shown as the bad guys in a WWII film. They were the bad guys.
Akka le Vil, I didn't go looking for anything in AtoC. But Watto's depiction was over the top.
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May 24, 2002, 13:48
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Akka le Vil, I didn't go looking for anything in AtoC. But Watto's depiction was over the top.
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Translation: He was drunk and feeling very PCish, and decided to make an issue out out of something absurd .
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May 24, 2002, 13:50
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I haven't seen Dr Dolittle 2. Can't comment on it.
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Cant you comment on what I just told you?
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May 24, 2002, 14:41
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If that, was indeed the case, I would find it offensive. BTW, are you trying to imply that Jews aren't white?
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May 24, 2002, 14:42
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I'll comment on it. I've never heard of French people being compared to monkeys. I've seen and heard Jewish stereotypes that are much like Watto.
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