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Old June 6, 2002, 11:02   #211
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In light of recent events Russia asks for peace with the martians and rerequests the robo-warrior designs fom germany. I send italy the fighter design and ask the ULS for their comet designs.
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Old June 6, 2002, 11:47   #212
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Old June 6, 2002, 12:51   #213
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German War Command Room

"What's the latest situation, Bismarck?"

"President, our forces are trying to establish a beachhead on mainland South America, but there is heavy resistance there. The islands in our control are well defended, though."

"Send in our ships to bombard their forces, so we can establish a beachhead."

"Well, that could be a problem. The Incans are fireing missiles at our sihps, but many of their missiles have been intercepted by our missiles. Only light damage reported."

"Try to take those out when the opprotunity arises."

"The Incas are also landing some armor in France."

"Well, send some of our armor and air force, then, to counter them."

"President, the Incans are threatening to use nukes."

"WHAT!?!? Well, I was expecting this. Here is a list of targets. Enter them into the tracking computer for the nukes. If they launch nukes, call me and I'll give you the launch codes so we can retaliate."

Bismarck looked at the list. It included:

Brasillia
Recife
Rio de Janerio
Curitiba
Belem
Caracas
Bogota
Quito
Lima
La Paz
Sucre
Montevideo
Buenos Aires
Santiago

"That's quite a list!"

"Well, I don't want you launching nukes at all of those cities, of course not! Do it this way: If they launch one nuke, launch one at one of those targets. If they launch two, we launch two. If they launch 3, we launch 3, and so on."

"Certainly. Good day."
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Old June 6, 2002, 12:54   #214
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To Russia

We will give you the plans for the robo-warrior under 2 conditions.

1. A peace treaty with the Martians is accepted by both sides.
2. You declare war on the Incan Empire.
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Old June 6, 2002, 14:38   #215
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sure Germany. It's a deal. where are the martians when you need 'em? the terms i feel should be as follows:

1 Immediate Ceasefire
2. Russia repays for loss of martian civillian life
3. Trade is opened up between russia and mars and affairs are stabalized.
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Old June 6, 2002, 15:01   #216
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skilord is it ok if I start this new "country"?
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Old June 6, 2002, 15:43   #217
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Old June 6, 2002, 16:07   #218
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thx man!
tomorrov phase 2 of my plan will be set in motion
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A breakthrough has lead to the construction of a hundred SpiderBots to invade the Incans with!

Current ULS stats would be:

Medium Army
Small Navy
Air Force: Medium
Huge Space Navy
Few Nukes
Few IPBM's
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German War Room

"Some news, President, not related to the war this time."

"Something not related with the War? Thank goodness! What is it, Bismarck?"

"A corporation from Sweeden, MC&A, has established a new nation on Antarctica."

"Hmm... interesting."

"What should we do, President?"

"Establish diplomatic relations. See if MC&A will sign a non-agression pact with us."

"Yes, President."
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Russia:
Add granting unlimited access to mines in your colony for a discounted price and the tech to build the robots and we might have a deal...

We both know it is impossible to pay for the lives lost, but how about oil supplies and some luxuries, as well as a bit of raw money?
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OOC: I don't want to take trickey's place, so I'll take Canada as mine and just sideways direct the USA until he decides he wants control back. I'm putting them into a very solid alliance/federation until trickey wants his country back. then we'll split the federation and see what happens.

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Headlines from the Cincinnati Daily & the Ottawa Citizen


Panama in imminent danger of being overrun.
The vast Panamerican fortress complex, popularly dubbed 'The Labrynth', has fended off repeated Incan assaults but is running low on munitions and has taken heavy damage.

"We're mowing them down like crazy but there's just too many to stop! The Incan army is humongous!" says General Carlos Goncalves of the Southern Theatre. 12,000 US Marines are holed up in the complex with General Carlos taking severe shelling.

Analysts say that the fortress will likely fall before midsummer as another huge Incan assault force is being prepared unless reinforcements arrive soon. However, Incan shelling and missile attacks have damaged the rail systems leading to the fortress and there is a huge bottleneck of American forces in Honduras.

General Miguel Vincente of the US Southeast Theatre (which includes most of the Carribean Islands) is urging Supreme Commander Hogarth to allow him to reinforce Carlos by sea. Hogarth has so far not allowed this as he fears an Incan invasion of the vulnerable islands if Vincente were to reduce his garrison.

On the opposite side of the border, the Incan battle-complex is swarming with troops. Orbital surveillance indicates over 3 million troops are gathered along with nearly 2000 armored units. Closer arial inspection is not possible as Incan SAMS are in massive numbers. These SAMs are also why the American air force has been unable to deal as much damage to the Incan armored and mechanized units as they had hoped.

Canada declares war on the Incan empire!

Armed forces will arrive in southern USA to buffer security zone, including New Orleans. Canadian jet fighters and space navy have taken positions alongside American forces to "lay the smack down" on any Incan vessels suspected of transporting troops. Incans suffer huge losses to their navy as the world gangs up.

Canadian Parliament in talks with American Congress to discuss highest level of governmental integration yet.

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*Note to reader:
Currently Canada and the USA already have a joint military command for the duration of the Incan war (or until the threat abates). The common economic system has been in place for decades and military security and technological sharing have been pooled by the two countries. Only the political systems remained separate. This latest negotiation will not remove Parliament or Congress, but will create a continental "umbrella" Government.

For the past two decades, Canada has served as the buffer, or middleman, to serve American needs without breaching the official American policy of isolationism.

Americans realized early on that complete isolation would be impossible and granted Canada a special exemption which served both countries. America was protected by a buffer yet kept current, markets satisfied, and entrepreneurs had a loophole. Canada gained economically. While the loss of the exclusive market share in America had some Canadian investors worried (including the Big Five), the recent spate of wars has more than made up the loss. The Big Five have made spectacular gains in the field of Arms trading and Weapons Delivery systems. The Big Five currently own large percentages of foreign stock, though none on Mars as it is considered too volatile.

Changes from original situation:

United States:
Medium Army ->upgr to LARGE (mobilized)
Large Navy -> maintain
Medium Airforce -> maintain
Medium Nukes ->maintain
Huge Space Navy ->deteriorated to medium over last 20a (too expensive)
Govt: Democracy
Ruler: trickey
MPP's: Pact of Freedom (Russia, UK, Canada)
War: Inca

Canada:
Medium Army -> upgr to LARGE (mobilized)
Medium Navy -> maintain
Large Airforce ->maintain
Few Nukes -> maintain
Small Space Navy -> upgraded to medium (purchased from USA)
Govt: Republic
Ruler: Captain
MPP's: Pact of Freedom (Russia, UK, USA)
War: Inca

Territory changes:
Loss of everything below Panama Canal to Incans.
Canada and USA are essentially one (for now).

Diplomacy:
Incans must die!
All else, neutral or non-aggression pact if you like.
Willing to trade off any existing bases outside the continent for good offers in exchange.
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To the leaders of Earth:

We urge restraint in the use of nuclear weapons!

You have only to look at the former cities of New York, Washington, and Atlanta to see the devastation! Remember the forty million lives lost in that holocaust and the ninety million that died shortly after! Even today the Eastern seaboard remains a no-mans' land as the fallout has yet to be nullified. While we have spent decades on treating radiation sickness and developing technologies for clean-up, the cost is enormous and the reconstruction painfully slow. We would not wish this on anyone, not even the bloodthirsty Incans who threaten our very lives.

Please, we urge you NOT to use high-yield nuclear weapons.

We cannot stop you. We can only remind you of what happened last time.

yours in sincerity,

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NEWS Headline

The Parliament of Canada has ratified the Continental Act by a landslide vote of 451 to 73. Only 22 abstained from the vote. Proponents of the Act celebrated and declared a victory for the principles of peace, order, good government, and free trade. Dissidents proclaimed the death of the sovereignty of Canada and prophesied the country would become a lapdog to the USA.

Congress has yet to ratify the treaty but it is expected the Act will pass. American dissidents are aligned with those favouring a return to Isolationism. They fear the loss of American sovereignty and of being dragged into conflicts not of their making. Proponents of the Act accuse the Dissidents of ingratitude for the assistance Canada has rendered over the past 3 centuries of good neighbouring, especially in the last 20 years. Proponents also remind the Dissidents that Canada had taken in nearly sixty million American refugees after the disaster and that Canada is currently composed of 36% former Americans. Indeed, it is almost impossible to tell American from Canadian citizens apart except by passport.

While the Continental Act officially creates the "North American Coalitions of Independent States" and will move towards the creation of the "North American Federation" within 2 years, the public has already taken to calling the new union "Canamerico" or "Canamerxico".

Readers should note that most of Canada's population remains centred in Ontario, and the West Coast. Most of America's population is in the "Midwest", that is, Ohio, Michigan, etc.. along the West Coast, Texas, Mexico, and the newest states of Central America and the Caribbean. The major industrial areas have been relocated to the Midwest, Ontario, and Mexico. Major agricultural regions remain the same as the past century. Military is divided into Arctic Theatre, NW Theatre, NE Theatre, Eastern (Radioactive), Central, Western, Basin, Mexican, Yucatan, Panama, Caribbean, and Space.

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DIPLOMACY:
We extend diplomatic recognition to MC&A.

We extend diplomatic recognition to Mars and the ULS. We are sending ambassadors to your distant planets/moons as they had been recalled twenty-one years ago.

ULS:
We request a non-aggression pact. The history of bad blood between our nations must stop (see page 1 of this thread). We are willing to reconsider our claim on the remaining American bases on the moon in exchange for guarantees of non-aggression.

MARTIANS:
We request Martian scientists come to Earth to help us unlock more genetic secrets. While our treatments for radiation sickness are the best in the world, we feel the Martian geneticist could help us make the breakthrough we need to save the lives of 20 million Americans still diseased, as well as detoxify the land.

We would be willing to send large sums of money your way or whatever else you want.

INCANS:
Cease your aggression NOW!

We have refrained from orbital bombardment of your cities, but if you do not immediately call for a CEASEFIRE, we will join the other nations in reducing your cities to so much ash.

EVERYONE:
Who wants to trade?
The American public is hungry for what the world has to offer. After 21 yrs of living in a closet, we'd like to see what's out there.

We offer in exchange, access to plentiful ENERGY (uranium in Canada, Oil in alaska and Texas), and METALS (high quality for spaceship construction but we do not have Leonardicum). We offer radiation sickness medical technologies and Land DETOX technologies (except for our security secrets).

We also offer FOOD at low rates (those on the moon must be paying $$$ to import now, we'll cut those rates in half!)

We also offer Salsa music and dance lessons! Catch the latest Pan-American craze!

Surplus Heavy-industrial construction equipment also for sale (due to our terraforming and detox work).

Question:
Do I have any bases on Mars left? Or did MI take them all over?
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Our Armed Forces, Our Allies, Our Enemies, Our Territory


Leader: President Wilhelm (Jonny)
Large Army
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Government: Democratic Republic
Alliances: Franco-Luna-German Alliance (France, ULS, Germany)
Wars: Incan War

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Greater Germany (in Europe)
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Franco-German Moon Bases
Franco-German Mars Bases
German Phobos

Temporairly Held Regions:
Faulklands
Tierra del Fuego

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President Jonny in Earth Orbit (3 yrs until opening)
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Italy War Bulletin
Thanks to the Russian the IAF (Italian Air Force) is now starting to build new F-Mig-100 using the Leonardicum, in order to make them some almost invincible Aircraft. Which will be called V-23.

The Air Base in Galapagos Island was quickly built as few resistance from Incaland was found, Inca forces had spread out too much and have concentrated too muych on the offensive to held a good defense against The Italian Folgore and many Incan ships were sunked with the use of the famous Italian Maiale better known as Frog Man or Human Torpedo.
Navy: The "ID-Zara", "ID-Pola" and "IB-Trieste" are currently protecting the Island, The "IC-Livorno" and The "IC-Latina" are currently transporting airplane fighters to the new base, and are escorted by the Battleships "IB-Pisa" and "IB-Genova" as well as by the submarines "IS-Taranto" and "IS-Ancona".
Army:In the Island there is the: "20ma Mas" and the "JT-78" infantry and Marines troops, as well as the "7ma Folgore" as Paratroopers in there.
Air Force:The "Lampi Tricolore" and the "Scheggie Volanti" Air Squadroon air currently being trasported by the two Carriers cited above to the island.

Italy enters a state of War-Time mobilization, every factory had been set on building war products: Car Factory switched to Military Jeep and Aircraft, Clothes factory build now Uniforms and so on...

This is the report of the EI (Esercito Italiano) on the current status of Italian Army and territories:

Military:
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small (upgrading to Medium with the productions of V-23)
Space Fleet: Large
Nukes: Few
Interplanetary Nukes: None

Territories
New Italian Empire
Italian Moon Colonies
Italian Phobos
Under Secret Development with Australia:
Italian Venus Base will be complete there in 2 years left
Invaded by Italy
Galapagos Islands

Diplomacy
Italo-Australian Pact: Australia
Non Aggression Pact: ULS
Gaian Act: UK
Wars: Inca

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The ULs is dropping forces into Incan lands, the new WalkerBots are wreaking havok in their share of the Carribean. An Invasion of the S. American mainland should be considered now by the allied forces.

ULS holdings:

ULS
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Outreach I Repair: 1 year
Several small Asteroid colones.
Hati and the Virgin Islands (hehe i was born there. feels good to liberate the from the Incans)
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Canada: Sure. And what about getting an alliance with it...all i want from you in return is a promise to keep me up-to-date on new military tech spreading, so the Martian military does not fall behind.

To Australia: Alliance?

To all human-controlloed nations except those mentioned above, Russia, Inca, and Britain: NAP?

The people have chosen to give most of the leaders of the rebellion to britain, but a few, including their leader Doug Henderson, have been allowed to stay. Sorry .

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Huge army
Small airforce
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Note that now that the russian invasion has ended the PMF and the ULM have separated from the Empire.
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A proposal to ULS, France, Australia, and Italy

How about we join our two alliances together to fight against our greater enemy, the Incan Empire?
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We propose a non-agression pact to all of you, other than the Incas. If we have already have a non-agression pact with you, just tell us.
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OOC: You meant NAP with me, right? I'm guessing ya did since ya also gave some rebellion leaders up.

To Empress MI of the Martian Empire,

We accept your NAP and welcome peace with the Martian Empire, we never wanted war in the first place but the actions of your Empire gave us no choice. We thank you also for turning over those involved in the rebellion, even if it is not all. I must warn you though, should the ones who performed acts of rebellion and were not handed over to us ever come on UK land they will be arrested at once, and treated as a UK, not Martian citizen.

Since we are now at peace, we are releasing all Martian officials and soldiers we captured, they have all been treated according to the rules of war, i'm sure you will see for yourself. Similiarily we ask that any UK soldiers you might have captured to be surrendered. Also, we are allowing free immigration from our colonys to your Empire, so any that you think should want to leave, may do so of their own free will. The colony and moon Deimos will however stay in UK control as stated.

-Prime Minister- William the II, Former Naval Admrial
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To the Incan Empire and peace loving nations of the Solar System,

Do not think to threaten us Incans, even if you do use what few nukes you have you are simply dooming your people to their own deaths, and the few that survive will live in a radioactive wasteland. We had hoped by now you would have pulled back your troops and seen reason, but it appears not. With peace with the Martian people we are sending a large portion of our army to help the Americans defend against invasion, British Infantry and Armor divisions are landing in Texas as we speak, on their way to the front lines. You cannot win this war, so the UK proposes this.

You sign a peace treaty with America, agree to pay for the damages done, and agree to reduce your military capacity to further prevent this from happening again. I give you one year to do this, after that action will be taken.

-Prime Minister- William the II, Former Naval Admiral
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Earth related news

Today the Prime Minister commied even more forces to help the Americans fight the Incan threat, specific numbers kept secret, but it is known quite a few Infantry and Armor divisions landed in Texas, then went towards the front line. The Prime Minister also rebuffed the Incans claim to use nukes, warning what would happen if they dared.

Colonial related news

PEACE ON MARS! Announced today, there is finally peace on Mars. Though the fighting was not as intense as it is right now with the Incan people, the Mars colony is very valueable economically to the Empire, supplying many of the raw minerals needed.

Also, the beginning of the trial for some of the UK citizens who led the rebellion begains today, charged with treason for their crimes they are expected to be given life sentences if convicted.
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General Annoucments

CAM developed having been rushed in the short conflict for use on Mars is now ready for standard depolyment, several missiles have already been constructed, though not as powerful as nukes they are estimated to be able to take out a decent sized city or troop movement.

SECRET Research Project begun, codenamed Ambrosia UK scientists are now working on a cheap-to-produce, easy-to-manufacture EMP grenade, designed to specifically take out robotic units. Estimated development time: 2 years

Stonehenge proceeding on schedule finaly, construction of the initial docks is underway, with 4-6 years left for completion.

UK Space Navy recalled to original positions, drafting resuming in colonies.
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SUMMARY
Diplomatic messages sent to MI, Crazy Bill, All Nations
CAM completed, Ambrosia begun.
Stonehenge estimated time: 4-6 years
Navy back to original positions, military increasing to nearly half the way between medium and large.
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Max Villman, the man in control of MC&A, was sitting in his office looking out over his new "country". A man entered. The man was the leader of the new armed forces of MC&A.

"Sir, we are ready for phase 2."

"Good. Start it immediately."

"Affirmitive!"


All over MC&As new territory, launch sites started working. Space ships started their engines and soon a small space navy was created. All the new Neo-Spitfire mark 2 and bigger space ships could dock with a secretely built space station. The new Neo-Spitfire could fly both in space and in athmospheres.

From todays Russia allmost all swedes immigrated to MC&A new installation. Soon over 5 million people was there. 2 weeks after the small space fleet was launched into orbit it was upgraded to medium as another big launch circle started. 1 million people were sent with big passenger shuttles out into space, destination classified. MC&A was also renamed to Sweden and became a country instead of a company.
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"I know, we, a superpower, have to bow to the insolent little aliens. Tell them we accept nonetheless our reputation has been scarred enough already and we cannot afford to maintain the riots against the war."
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The Dictatorship of the Incan mpire has been toppled when the Leader of the old regime was stampeded to death by a protesting crowd. The new Republic that tries futilely to maintain order asks for peace.

Prime Minister Tenochatin

The new republic is willing to concede many things for peace, this war is the futile grasping of a dictatorship to power. We never stood a chance against the world and our population has been demolished by the war.

Have mercy.
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War in Panama rages on as Incan Empire topples!

Despite the death of the Incan dictator and the rise of a new, republican-style government, the war in Panama shows no signs of abating.

New Incan Prime Minister Tenochitan has asked for peace but the Generals fighting in Panama have not acknowledged his repeated demands for a ceasefire. General Aztaplan calls Tenochitan "a wuss" and states the army will continue with their invasion plans.

The North American Coalition of Independent States (Canamerxico) has ordered its space fleet to avoid bombarding Incan cities so that the New Incan Republic can restore order. However, until the Incan Generals submit to the New Incan Republic, there will be no peace in Panama. Coalition forces actively engaged will remain so and further reinforcements are proceeding as previously planned.

General Carlos of the Southern Theatre states "There are three million Incans still warring against our nation. This threat will be neutralized, if not by the new Incan government, then by our armed forces."

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DIPLOMACY

INCANS:
We accept an overall state of CEASEFIRE but in the local PANAMA area, we are still actively engaged in battle. We hope your government will acknowledge these 3 million troops as REBEL forces and act to prevent any further aggression.

We also realize your government may be in danger of losing even more control by way of military coup. We have seen how the Incans near Panama have refused to acknowledge your government.

We wish to assemble an INTERNATIONAL PEACEKEEPING FORCE to paradrop (or orbitally insert) into the Incan capital and secure the government against rebels - with your government's permission. This is NOT an invasion force.

The Coalition offers Elite Canadian and American Light Troops, skilled at insertion behind enemy lines. How we will get armoured units into your Capital we are unsure of yet. We cannot paradrop such heavy armour units without losing many of them to SAMS.

If the INCAN government agrees, we will send this force ASAP along with troops from any other nation that the Incans agree to.

UK:
We formally invite our staunch ally the UK to participate in this peacekeeping force.

ITALY:
Your bases in the Galapagos would serve well to get armoured units into the capital quickly (by sea transport) as that area seems lightly defended by Incan military and you have already cleared naval from that zone. We invite you to join the peacekeeping force.

ALL:
All others, with the exception of Persia and China, are also welcome to participate in the peacekeeping force.
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