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President shall appoint them from willing candidates
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May 28, 2002, 17:51
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No City-Planner, No VP...
What shall we do. We need both positions. Shall I seek candidates for both (remembering that I brought you VP MWIA) or shall we do without, or shall we have a Special Election? If no candidates are selected, I will have to do their jobs myself. I am full willing, but the whole point of this is diversity.
So, how shall we decide?
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May 28, 2002, 17:57
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It's a 2 day poll...
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May 28, 2002, 17:59
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It's a 2 day poll...
Banana = "do without"
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May 28, 2002, 18:02
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Hmmm. Every month, another scenario unforeseen in our previous musings. (Note to self: This is why a constitution with teeth makes no sense!)

I suggest we nominate the runners-up in the two contested races to test their mettle in these gigs.  At least they've shown some freaking interest!!
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May 28, 2002, 18:05
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Those would be my prime candidates...
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May 28, 2002, 18:56
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As I seem to be loosing the election for SMC, I would be interested in the job
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May 28, 2002, 19:52
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What I'd like to know is why the heck there aren't any polls up for Imperial Expansion!  I thought the results for the combination poll would be implemented in the next elections.
Maybe we should go ahead and put those up, since MWIA seems to be asleep.
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May 28, 2002, 21:02
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MWIA didn't put up imperial expansion because of the poll of whether or not to merge it with city planner.
I can't vote in this poll. The VP should be appointed but the city planner should have a special election by self-nomination, and if no one is willing, support of two people to draft candidates.
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May 28, 2002, 21:03
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I vote banana; VP (duh) and city-planner (not so duh) are pretty redundant anyway.
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May 28, 2002, 21:07
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no! city planner is very impoortant! VP maybe not, but MWIA has turned it into an important administrative position that doesn't make decisions on how the game is run but does stuff about how the democracy works (ie constitution, merging city planner and imperial expansion, etc)
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May 28, 2002, 22:20
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Civman2000 right! city planner is of prime importance. I think that runners up for contested positions should be put into the running for this position. If they are willing of course. As far as VP again civman2000 is right mwia has made this an equally important position. Its a jack of all trades job that should be filled by a senior player who has held at least one position in the cabinet before.
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Currently it is 4 for leaving them unclaimed, 3 for appointment, and 1 for selfnomination elections. However, for the city planner there should be one more vote for selfnominated elections and for the VP there should be a 4th appointment vote (my votes because they are split).
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May 28, 2002, 23:08
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So who the hell is in the cabinet as of now?!?!
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May 28, 2002, 23:53
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Im not completely clear as to what the city planner does.
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May 29, 2002, 01:06
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So who the hell is in the cabinet as of now?!?!
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i don't think the elections are over yet but if you examine the votes, you'll probably be able to guess who will win
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May 29, 2002, 04:30
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I'm very confused.
Is it too late to offer ourselves for the position (City Planner)? Or do we just beg the Pres?
If so.. *beg beg*
Well, I'd like to be City Planner. I feel I can build up the core of our cities into a highly productive industrial area, as well as building our outer cities into semi-independant centres which don't require much intervention. I can also be flexible, knowing how to produce high tax returns and then switching to high research.
*beg beg*
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Hmm... Confusion reigns.
We wait 'till the result of this poll. If the vote is to do without, somehow we have to do without. VP was never a very important position, only really taking over in case of a Presidential disappearance and posting elections, but there's a lot to do that doesn't fall under the aegis of anyone else's portfolio, as I think I've shown.
I hope we have these two positions filled by SOMEone - up until now the system has worked well and I see no need to change it.
If the vote is for the positions to be polled on, I guess all interested parties can offer themselves for the poll. You should do so by the end of the rest of the elections.
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I'm a bit confused over the responsibilty of the city-planner. Is that about what the cities are going to build or about irrigation and mining or both? I've got a strong opinion about the latter but I don't care to much about the former (besides getting a few mor engineers out there).
edit: Or is it about how and where the people should work? Ie maximizing production, trade or food or something in between?
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Imperial expansion is about where to build no cities. City planner is to manage cities we already have.
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May 29, 2002, 09:31
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VP is important, people!  We have already had a president resign. Without a VP, the game would stall while we ran special elections. As before, the masses accept that this can be an appointed position.
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May 29, 2002, 09:37
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and since i seem to be losing for science minister I urge cavebear to consider me a potential VP
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May 29, 2002, 09:42
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Imperial expansion is about where to build no [sic!] cities.
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I guess you think we shouldn't build more cities and that's some kind of freudian slip?
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supposed to be "new" 
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Well there seem to be enough people willing to be considered to make a new election possible, but I think it would be easier (and quicker) if the President simply appoints.
I don't hold with getting rid of these two jobs.
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FFS!!! How many times do I have to stand for City Planner??
VOTE ME! For increased environmental concern, love of all things fluffy and feathery, and a righteous protection of our world from all humans. (This may well mean violent wars...)
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I urge the president to accept Immortal Wombat for city planner and Civman2000 for VP. I believe i'm supporting two people from two different political parties, but so what? i'm an independant waiting for someone to make me an offer
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Why thankyou H Tower, I will remember your support in the July elections
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Why thankyou H Tower, I will remember your support in the July elections
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see? that's the kind of offer i've been looking for
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Immortal Wombat!? He's starting to whine about the enviorment and we haven't industralized yet! Where should this stop?
No, this is not acceptable, we need to raise our productivity and rationalize our farming. This to build what our citizens need and all that technology brings us. If we don't do this we will not be able to give our defence forces enough of new units fast enough.
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you want to be city planner
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