America and Egypt

Space05us · May 29, 2002, 13:58

What is your opinion on America and Egypt? What should be done with them?

H Tower · May 29, 2002, 14:05

kill them all! its just that we don't have the forces to do so yet.

Kropotkin · May 29, 2002, 14:08

Well on the maps of 1640 Thebes is without citywalls. If we have some extra troops around we might try a landing at the coast and test its defences. If we take Thebes, the rest of egypt can be taken without much effort for the rest of our civilization imho.

Gen. Hancock · May 29, 2002, 14:13

Destroy all of Egypt and Thebes and the rest of the American Cities except their Capital City and then negotiate peace with the Americans and establish trade with them.

Space05us · May 29, 2002, 14:18

I hope the

Supreme Military Commander

drops in and takes a look at this

cavebear · May 29, 2002, 14:26

Well, it doesn't show up clearly on the map, but Thebes is walled.

-Jrabbit · May 29, 2002, 14:50

No need to wipe them out per se

, but we should make it a point to sieze the Wonders that are rightfully ours

, and extract

minor technologies (eg Bridge Building) that we can't otherwise be troubled with.

If this modest plan results in the total assimilation of these cultures into mainstream Apolytonia, then I guess it was just meant to be.

Space05us · May 29, 2002, 15:04

MrWIA should get started on a plan for conquering America and Egypt ASAP

or at least plan on starting an invasion.

hit 'em hard and fast, that's my suggestion

(hehee now I get to play the little old man who complains about lack of action

)

atawa · May 29, 2002, 15:05

Kill them asap

Kuciwalker · May 29, 2002, 16:00

The dialectic pronounces the inevitability of our triumph in conquering the reactionary lands and freeing their peasants and workers from the mystification of their capitalist exploiters so that they may join our Worker's Paradise.

Marquis de Sodaq · May 29, 2002, 22:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Space05us
I hope the

Supreme Military Commander

drops in and takes a look at this

In a few days, I wash my hands of this!

Really, our current holdings are secure, my successor should have an easy time preparing any further incursions into foreign soil. Now if we had ironclads to avoid those pesky city walls...

DarkCloud · May 29, 2002, 22:31

Kill the Americans first.
The Egyptians have a better color

Bigcash · May 30, 2002, 02:59

War! I say we land cheap troops who set fire to their countryside, pillaging as they go till the infrastructure is ruined for both countries. Our shock troops then retreat to the hills, where they periodically swoop down to check down on the starving cities. Thereby they pose no threat whatsoever till we have the Ironclads the Marquis so desires.

Kropotkin · May 30, 2002, 05:26

While it seems like a good idea to land some troops so that they can not mass troops and take the war to us it seems like a bad idea to pillage. The ironclads are not far away in the future and those mines and irrigations could be good for us in the future.

cavebear · May 30, 2002, 08:47

Pillaging doesn't damage an AI city, the AI just cheats more to make up for it. On the other hand, all that irrigation and road has to be rebuilt by us because we have to play by the rules.

Immortal Wombat · May 30, 2002, 09:22

DEATH TO ~~HUMANITY~~ *cough* OUR ENEMIES!!

Kropotkin · May 30, 2002, 09:33

Not to mention that those lousy capitalist pigs have enough money to buy their needs. As usual at the expence of the exploited workingclass!

JCP · May 30, 2002, 13:18

The two civs are in war with us. We have to finish the begun job !

(a french proverb says : When the wine is drawn, it should be drunk

)
About Egypt, I proposed in another link that :
"For the following, as main cities are walled, let us not waste our brilliant units in front attacks.

As communist, bribing is not a bad thing if it is for a good goal !

The aim may be to conquer Egyptian Capital, by sabotage of the walls with diplomats, then attacking by crusaders and, after conquest, bribing their poor remaining cities. "
More : catching Thebes gives us Marco Polo's.
Perhaps, as the Bear in the Cave noticed, we may let a poor lonesome city of each civ, to avoid restarting new civ anywhere.

For Americans, the known cities are walled : we need more forces, with high attack power, at least ironclads for costal cities,

then riflemen (by Leo's) and even cavalry if tech progress is speedy (remember : with railroad, we'll have two advances if we build Darwin's !)

Bigcash · May 30, 2002, 14:23

In that case, we need to sue for peace with America, and concentrate units on Egypt. We have a beachhead there, and moving all units from the American front would go faster.

MrWhereItsAt · May 30, 2002, 18:30

"Sue for peace"!

This is the MGE AI we're talking about, not EU2!

H Tower · May 30, 2002, 20:41

or just fortify some musketeers on good terrain inbetween or countries, let the AI ram their heads agaisnt a brick wall

Kuciwalker · May 30, 2002, 21:12

The AI is already ramming it's head into a brick wall - they haven't surrendered yet, have they?

cavebear · May 30, 2002, 23:05

As long as the Americans and Egyptians keep sending out individual units, I'm willing to keep wiping them out. We are getting stronger faster than they are.

H Tower · May 31, 2002, 00:03

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker
The AI is already ramming it's head into a brick wall - they haven't surrendered yet, have they?

because we haven't paid too much attention to them yet. just wait until ironclads

-Jrabbit · May 31, 2002, 08:51

Quote:

Originally posted by H Tower
or just fortify some musketeers on good terrain inbetween or countries, let the AI ram their heads agaisnt a brick wall

Agree -- Fortifying strong defenders (at least two = no bribe threat) close to enemy civs encourages them to weaken themselves by sending hari-kiri attack units out to their death (instead of fortifying their city defenses).

Space05us · May 31, 2002, 12:52

I suggest we move this discussion onto the Official Military Debate thread started by MrWIA, so our commets will recieve more attention

cavebear · May 31, 2002, 16:31

Yeah, I wish I could find some Mountains to fortify Musketeers on!

Space05us · May 31, 2002, 16:37

What a great president always smiling.... but you're also always wearing sunglasses... are you hiding something

cavebear · May 31, 2002, 16:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Space05us

What a great president always smiling.... but you're also always wearing sunglasses... are you hiding something

"Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to".

The sunglasses are so I can go out in public without be mobbed by adoring crowds. It seems to work very well.

Space05us · May 31, 2002, 16:56

you're online but your little ligtbulb says your gone.... another tactic to avoid your swarming masses of fans?