Stacked combat will be pointless if the ai can't use it

May 15, 2001, 19:55

I really hope the Ai knows how to use stacked combat because if it doesn't, single player games are going to be very one sided. It will be like Call to Power I and II where Ai civs can't stack units or hardly ever do and as a result are virtually ineffective in warfare. That would be very bad.

I raise this issue because we already have 2 versions of civ and the Ai hasn't yet learned how to put planes on a carrier or missiles on a submarine.

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Bereta_Eder · May 15, 2001, 19:58

quote:

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-15-2001 07:55 PM

I raise this issue because we already have 2 versions of civ and the Ai hasn't yet learned how to put planes on a carrier or missiles on a submarine.

Have you AH?

May 15, 2001, 20:01

We must play some time Paiktis

The Horse force looks forward to it

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Bereta_Eder · May 15, 2001, 20:13

Name the time and place you crazy Horse

I'm polishing my nukes while waiting for you reply

ancient · May 15, 2001, 21:27

neigh...

May 15, 2001, 22:01

Oh its a pissing competition is it? Okay.

First off, I usually deal with my opponents well before nukes come into play

So, Paiktis, what's your preference? A slow lingering death or a massive knock out blow? Let me know - the Horse Empire aims to please

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Bereta_Eder · May 15, 2001, 22:11

quote:

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-15-2001 10:01 PM
First off, I usually deal with my opponents well before nukes come into play

LOL

I just KNEW you were going to say that!

Did you think I'd kill you with Crusaders? Get real!

I'll let you hope until I get nukes (you won't even know how fast

) and then BOOM

It's more sic this way. N'est pas?

Bereta_Eder · May 15, 2001, 22:12

I'd say I pissed 3 meters away...

May 16, 2001, 00:28

Anybody want to address the topic of this thread

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Theben · May 16, 2001, 00:35

I'm just glad you put your sig in. I forgot to bookmark your *snicker* WEBPAGE and haven't been able to find it since.

rah · May 16, 2001, 08:39

In CTP II, The AI had no problem building stacks. And what was in the stacks was sometimes even the right combo. The AI's problem in CTP II was it's meekness. There is a FRENZY MOD available that makes them considerably more aggressive. (So much so that they sometimes forget to defend) So it is possible to program.

On the Carrier Issue that AH brings up, that is different. The whole stack never attacks at once. The program looks at options for each unit differently so the resulting attacks usually are far from coordinated.
Once a stack is built, the stack can now be treated as a single entity for the programming side. With the very aggressive AI in the Gold version, stacking will change the game dramatically.

RAH
Well I tried to bring it back on topic

Bereta_Eder · May 16, 2001, 09:17

quote:

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-16-2001 12:28 AM
Anybody want to address the topic of this thread

Come on little Troll

You don't expect anyone to take you seriously, let alone answer do you?

Bereta_Eder · May 16, 2001, 14:50

I can't believe it

The Horse remained silent???

Are you ok AH?

May 16, 2001, 23:06

People are going to start to think you are weird if you keep ranting at people who aren't online Paiktis.

RAH I haven't seen an ai civ use stacks yet in CTP II. Must play some more.

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Bereta_Eder · May 16, 2001, 23:10

quote:

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-16-2001 11:06 PM
People are going to start to think you are weird if you keep ranting at people who aren't online Paiktis.

Touche

I guess you are ok Horse

Bereta_Eder · May 16, 2001, 23:12

BTW, it took you an awufl lot time to come up with an answer AH! we getting rusty?!

May 17, 2001, 01:14

Actually I dashed that response off in seconds after coming online here

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Theben · May 17, 2001, 02:28

Okay, to the point of the thread:

quote:

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-15-2001 07:55 PM
I really hope the Ai knows how to use stacked combat because if it doesn't...[t]hat would be very bad.

Thanks for that spark of pure genius.

The obvious never escapes you, does it?

May 17, 2001, 08:56

I'm not one of your employees.

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Grumbold · May 17, 2001, 10:33

The same arguement could be given for not having a complex tech tree, or wonders, or anything else. If the AI can't cope then the game is bad. It isn't exactly difficult to send all your spare units to the city nearest the threat then combine them into useful armies before marching into enemy territory.

Theben · May 18, 2001, 05:01

I wouldn't trust my employees near a keyboard without pictures on each key.

May 18, 2001, 08:21

quote:

Originally posted by Theben on 05-18-2001 05:01 AM
I wouldn't trust my employees near a keyboard without pictures on each key.

So they use your keyboard do they? Ha ha ha ha aha ha ha!

I still got it

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MrFun · May 18, 2001, 11:14

This thread is pointless, since soon, AlexanderHorse's republic will be overthrown in a barrage of paintballs.

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MrFun · May 18, 2001, 23:24

I take it that the silence means that everyone is taking up arms!

(double checking ammo supply)

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Theben · May 19, 2001, 03:14

quote:

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-18-2001 08:21 AM

So they use your keyboard do they? Ha ha ha ha aha ha ha!

I still got it

Hey, it's better than your keyboard that Clears Screen by holding it upside down and shaking it.

Weren't you downsized from a similar position?

May 19, 2001, 22:31

Sorry Theben - that riposte scores 2 out of 10

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ancient · May 19, 2001, 22:48

every nuke launched at my brainless ai ally is one that wasnt launched at me

Urban Ranger · May 20, 2001, 02:02

AH should be sentenced to tree planting in the Outback.

Theben · May 20, 2001, 04:18

quote:

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 05-19-2001 10:31 PM
Sorry Theben - that riposte scores 2 out of 10

And yours was so original...

Nice comeback btw

May 20, 2001, 19:40

Can we get back on topic? If the ai can't use stacked combat properly then the game will be ruined, at least in single player mode. It will just be too easy to wipe out ai civs. Civ I and II give no confidence that they will get it right.

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