June 5, 2002, 06:47
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Victory Type
I think we need to decide what kind of victory we are going for. obviously if we can't obtain it then we can just kill everyone.
I think we should go for the Space Race victory, as it would prove most challanging.
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June 5, 2002, 08:06
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I think is is too late to go for a Space Victory. We would need to be way further along the science and productivity paths to make a go of it. Best we can really do is to just kill everyone else or establish a hegemony over subjugated civs.
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June 5, 2002, 08:52
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We know we can crush the others so I say lets see how close we get to space and crush the AI if we don't make it
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June 5, 2002, 11:36
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Agressive victory- unless of course we are down to but one enemy civ, in which case we should go for space
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June 5, 2002, 11:54
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We can make AC easy but as we are this powerfull we might as well take over the world.
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June 5, 2002, 12:15
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we can?  we don't even have industrialization yet! even having a shot at making AC would mean going to a democracy within the next few turns. with the turns leading up to that rush building colloseums and disbanding units.
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June 5, 2002, 12:37
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we are playing against the AI!! ive done AC without ever using demo...in singleplayer anyway.
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June 5, 2002, 15:43
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Conquest.
WAR WAR WAR
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June 5, 2002, 18:14
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I think our best bet would be domination, but we should try for AC if there is time left and only a weakling civ.
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June 5, 2002, 22:55
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If all goes more or less to plan, Egypt and America should fall soon. Once this is done we will be in a better position to decide, and we won't lose any time if we defer the decision 'till then, as we are on a war footing already. We will have a farir number of military units (albeit in the wrong place) for another attack, but I am amazed at how advanced we are for a Deity game where we haven't even been Republic once and don't have the GL! Perhaps an AC isn't impossible - we could become Demo right after the war is over.
To all those with much Deity experience; is AC still an option?
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June 5, 2002, 23:12
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WARWARWAR!
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June 6, 2002, 05:38
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WAR. Not just because we can but also because it would be more fun. A spacerace would probably mean that there wouldn't be as much to do for us citizens. But then afterall, this is a decision that could be changed anytime...
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June 6, 2002, 07:08
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I have to admit that, as seldom as I go for warfare wins personally, I favor it here. Warfare *is* a lot more participitory. Planning an A/C bound economy is just not as open to discussion.
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June 6, 2002, 08:31
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Think of all our innocent citizens caught in the crossfire of this terrible, bloody war. It is being fought right on the doorstep of our glorious nation..
Our brave boys get hurt on the high seas, gallop into gunfire or murdered by musketeers. It will not do.
Whatever finishs this bloody war with America and Egypt the quickest, I am in favour of. War should be fought in far off places by professional soldiers, where the innocent workers can not get caught up in it. IF there is war, and there shouldn't be, but if there was, all we should know about it is reading about our victories in the newspapers, not ducking for cover when bullets smash through the windows
Whatever finishs the Egyptians and Americans off fastest, I am in favour of. I personally think they can be made to pay by leaving a tiny scrap of their pathetic civilisations in total poverty, and having the rest for ourselves.
After that.. our citizens will be safe. We should have a few campaigns in far off places to keep the enemy away from our shores, yes, but all out war? No.
Ever since they sunk our caravel.. *sniff* *sob*
Err.. exuse me. Very emotional.
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June 6, 2002, 12:09
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Apolitonians for war!
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June 6, 2002, 13:52
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Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
To all those with much Deity experience; is AC still an option?
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Yes, we still have a long way to go till 2020, we can make it easy.
But our first comrade does have a good point with:
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I have to admit that, as seldom as I go for warfare wins personally, I favor it here. Warfare *is* a lot more participitory. Planning an A/C bound economy is just not as open to discussion.
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So lets go kick some ass
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June 6, 2002, 15:43
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War is a lot more fun. The AC victory makes me feel like I'm playing SimCity.
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June 6, 2002, 17:34
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War is hell.
But victory is soooo sweet.
We've got the guns and we know how to use them.
What the heck do we expect to find on AC anyway?
The planning and participation point is a good one, too. Inlight of that, I suggest a dual goal of total victory and maximal point score.
Much fun for all...!
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June 6, 2002, 18:24
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If we conquer the world, then we'll have to be the first ones to Alpha Centauri. See? We can have our cake and eat it too.
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June 6, 2002, 18:44
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June 7, 2002, 09:06
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Uh, cavebear, you might want to careful with the bad puns. 
Especially tasteless to supply your own laugh track.  (Granted, it was needed...)
History remembers...
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June 7, 2002, 11:36
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The space race would have citizen participation. The City Planner could busily poll about where to build structurals, where to build components, where to build a new factory! The Foreign Advisor could poll about map and tech trades, as well.

(citizen wishing war would break out)
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June 7, 2002, 15:55
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As I said, SimCity.
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June 12, 2002, 13:13
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whats wrong with simcity?
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June 12, 2002, 13:26
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Our war machine seems to be rolling along quite nicely, so I don't see any reason to let up before everyone else is dead.
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June 12, 2002, 14:24
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We should win by world conquest. We already have a strong military foothold, and a demo game with the goal for AC would not be as fun.
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June 12, 2002, 15:27
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Originally posted by ixnay37
Our war machine seems to be rolling along quite nicely, so I don't see any reason to let up before everyone else is dead.
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ixnay37, you've captured the essence of the situation.
Why would we give up our military superiority?
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June 12, 2002, 15:29
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June 12, 2002, 17:39
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I think I found out the reason I like civ........ it Simcity for nation building, I usllay go AC then kick the world' ass.......... but, thats just me.
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June 12, 2002, 18:06
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Originally posted by Cataphract887
whats wrong with simcity?
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Its not CIV 2.
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