View Poll Results: the americna, what to do?
seek peace at all costs 1 4.35%
leave them with 1 city but take the rest 3 13.04%
finish them off and get on with the game 17 73.91%
I don't care I am a banana 2 8.70%
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Old June 8, 2002, 04:00   #1
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Foreign Ministers report on the Americans 1764 ad
Foreign Ministers report on the Americans 1764ad

The americans are a republic with 154 gold in their treasury, they have 2 cities New york and Boston but we have not found them yet, I guess one of them is on the river below washington and that the other is south west of Alexandria but could be anywhere we havn't been yet.
They have no techs we do not have and are researching physics.
They are still allied with the egyptians and at war with us.

I recomend we find them and finish them as soon as possible.
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Where I guess american cities may be
These are just guess's please post other suggestions for us to think about.
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Those look like fine guesses...
(the one just south of Washington...I don't think that can be considered a guess rather a certainty--> roads+irrigation neatly distributed over 'no-mans-land'...)

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Maybe a Foreignminister you could take the task of showing us,the pour citizens, what the world looks like?

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Do the Americans still have a cap? If not I'd suggest bribing the 2 remaining city's so we can use our army and navy elsewhere.
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No capital for the americans.
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No capital for the americans.
As Philip of Macedon said,

"There is no fortress impregnable to an ass laden with gold."

Load an ass with gold, and have a diplomat lead it to the pathetic remains of their worthless civ.
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No doubt on the aim !
About the way, bribing may give us ready units, with Leo's.
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Why would we make peace?
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defientally bribe the last two cities
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I agree, we can use our military better elsewhere, crushing the romans to begin with
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We have enough forces to take Rome (the country) without taking units from the American/Egyptian theater. Rome and India is another story.
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We do need to consider how many defensive units it takes to safely hold conquered cities safe from Barbarian or opportunistic AI attacks. And we have to transport those units from where they are built to where they are needed.

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NO CAP? Defintely Bribe material.

Fast, efficient, and we get some infrastructure instead of needing to rebuild the cities.
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And hopefully we will get some units that will upgrade. We don't have many available defensive units to hold the cities we take.

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I would not think we would need more than 2 defenders in cities we take, I don't think a huge counter attack is on the cards from the AI
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We do need to consider how many defensive units it takes to safely hold conquered cities safe from Barbarian or opportunistic AI attacks. And we have to transport those units from where they are built to where they are needed.
Two defensive units for each costal city ?
One, withe some offensive units (to hunt barb leaders ), in others, but with road, then railroad, connection.
Nevertheless, the martial law may need three units by city in this stay!
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I definately vote for bribing at least one of the other cities.........probably NY. The other we can take by force when we find it.
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Two defensive units for each costal city ?
One, withe some offensive units (to hunt barb leaders ), in others, but with road, then railroad, connection.
Nevertheless, the martial law may need three units by city in this stay!
Either might work fine. We'll have Riflemen soon, and 2 Riflemen or 1 Rifleman and a Dragoon ought to be able to hold against anything these civs are able to throw at us. Never can tell what the Barbs might be allowed, though.

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I definately vote for bribing at least one of the other cities.........probably NY. The other we can take by force when we find it.
Bribing is probably the easiest way to capture the non-coastal walled cities where we have taken the Capitals. I'll plan to build Diplomats where we don't already have them conveniently placed.

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I agree with those thoughts cavebear provided the price is not too steep
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I was a bribing partisan for a long time, and this idea becomes trivial.
But don't forget it means some monney, even for cheap cities. We have to reduce rushbuilding, which was largely used last sessions.
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before last session though, we used very little, and even last session I we gained money overall. I understand your concern, but we have plenty of money . I have also just been able to 100% confirm that New York is where it is (as opposed to 99% we had before ): Shift-c, go to city, and it says New York is right in that square, as we expected!
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Definately take NY but do we want to keep boston as a "pet" or do we wipe out the Amrericans?

If the game is not set to recreate the americans somewhere else then my vote is to wipe them out.

Also, it was suggested that Boston was South of Alexandria, however i think it more likely that the americans established a new city on a near by coastline rather than pass thru egyptian territory. Don't forget the other egyptian cities we have not discovered... I think it likely that they will be in that spot instead.


P.S. have we explored any of the land south of thebes yet?
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About Boston, the point at the SW of Alexandria seems more convenient for the last egyptian city.
But what about the peninsula between Pi-Ramses and Alexandria : ther is a roaded tile out af the circle of known cities.
Civmann 2000 may test Boston in the Find list as he did for New-York ... if it is not considered as cheating !
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