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View Poll Results: World Size
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Tiny (60x60)
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1 |
1.92% |
Small (80x80)
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Standard (100x100)
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7 |
13.46% |
Large (130x130)
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9 |
17.31% |
Huge (160x160)
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19 |
36.54% |
180x180
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1 |
1.92% |
200x200
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0 |
0% |
220x220
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0% |
240x240
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0% |
256x256
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15 |
28.85% |
Other
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June 9, 2002, 08:51
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Technical Director
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World Size
GameSetup Poll1: World Size
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ACS - Technical Director
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June 9, 2002, 09:13
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Prince
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I recommend a Standard map, because this won't be too slow in the late game. Many participants may have slow computers, and on these computers the late game can take many minutes between turns. In addition, an Industrial-age war can take a long time per turn on a large map, often over an hour to move every unit. With a 256 x 256 map, the game will easily take a year or more to play.
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None, Sedentary, Roving, Restless, Raging ... damn, is that all? Where's the "massive waves of barbarians that can wipe out your civilisation" setting?
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June 9, 2002, 10:01
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Emperor
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Originally posted by star mouse
With a 256 x 256 map, the game will easily take a year or more to play.
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So what?
We should make the map as big as possible. And maybe have province governers in the later stages of the game.
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June 9, 2002, 10:06
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Deity
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Why do we want to be stuck as one Civ for a year or more? Personally, I am in this game to see what works for different Civs, and not be stuck with the same one forever. I vote regular size, so we can hopefully finish in LESS than a year.
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June 9, 2002, 10:23
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King
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I vote for a regular map too. My PBEM experience tells me that to long a game will end just when it gets fun. Now I admit I have no experience with a game like this but IMO more than a year is to much.
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Franses (like Ramses).
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June 9, 2002, 10:24
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Emperor
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huge, 160x160.
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June 9, 2002, 10:32
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I voted for Huge. More territories to conquer, more decisions to be taken.
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June 9, 2002, 11:06
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King
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Having played demogames before, I can tell you we're probably going to be playing for close to a year anyway. For example, at Civfanatics, we're playing a large map, it's the third month, and we're just starting the Industrial AGe. You only play like 20 turns/week, so it's gonns a take a long time, so we might as well go for the huge. Also, the average person's computer speed isn't relevant as only the President plays the actual game. The rest of us just talk and vote about it.
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June 9, 2002, 11:15
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Deity
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The President will be different every term (not always, but more often than not), so we can't just choose the person with a fast computer and restrict the Presidency to them - it's Plutocratic.
3 months and Industrial? Doesn't sound too bad. I will be surprised if you haven't finished by the end of the year.
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June 9, 2002, 11:23
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Deity
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I voted for 256x256, though then I wont be running for presidency, since my computer is pretty slow
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June 9, 2002, 11:27
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King
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Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
The President will be different every term (not always, but more often than not), so we can't just choose the person with a fast computer and restrict the Presidency to them - it's Plutocratic.
3 months and Industrial? Doesn't sound too bad. I will be surprised if you haven't finished by the end of the year.
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Yes, but that's still 'close to a year', as I said. Actually, I doubt the President will change too often. Either way, even on a slow computer, 10 turns won't take long, and the longest parts will be making decisions at the turnchats, not the actual playing. In fact, waiting between turns will give a chance for discussion.
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June 9, 2002, 11:30
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Warlord
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Huge map is a good compromise i think.
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June 9, 2002, 11:31
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Deity
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True.... Tell us about the CivFanatics game, punkbass: how often did your Prez change? Etc, etc.
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June 9, 2002, 11:32
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King
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Our prez only changed once so far, and only because the first one resigned. A lot of people nominated him anyway.
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June 9, 2002, 16:13
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256x256
I doubt that more of a 20% of us can play civ3 with this map...
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June 9, 2002, 16:16
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Deity
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Bigger is better.
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June 9, 2002, 16:49
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Firaxis Games Programmer/Designer
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Yes, I like big. I'll let everyone else specify, but I like big maps.
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June 9, 2002, 16:59
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If be play a big big map (160 or more) with a lot of civs we are limiting the possibility of being president to the players that have a big computer (money). Like in the real life.
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June 11, 2002, 17:46
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256*256. I want this game to be long, because I really want to feel myself being a Citizen of the People's Republic of Apolyton.
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June 11, 2002, 17:48
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Looks like huge will win.
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June 11, 2002, 17:51
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King
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Voted huge, with a 256x256 micromanagement will become allmost impossible
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June 11, 2002, 17:53
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Deity
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Huge is big enough anyway.
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June 11, 2002, 19:39
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Settler
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I want it to be real huge so we can have the feeling we are playing in a real world, and not just some small compensation. This will give the posibilities of a large number of other civs and therby a more interesting diplomatic game. Also battles gets more interesting, becours they tend to go on for a longer period of time.
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June 11, 2002, 19:56
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Firaxis Games Programmer/Designer
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Hehe, how odd. People want it so that the world is either moderately sized, as big as it gets by default, and as big as possible. No variety at all people, sheesh. (Well, at least no one voted for 'Tiny' )
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