Should playing ahead be allowed?

civman2000 · June 16, 2002, 10:52

This is in response to panag's wanting to allow it: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...0&pagenumber=2

Poll lasts 2 days (ends 6/18)

Eli · June 16, 2002, 11:58

Definetely not!

Jon Shafer · June 16, 2002, 12:13

We all know how this poll is going to go.

Panag says that each person should be allowed to have fun with the game in their own way (apparently even if it eliminates the fun that others may have (after all, it's their decision whether to have fun or not, right?

).

Panag · June 16, 2002, 12:31

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Originally posted by civman2000
This is in response to panag's wanting to allow it: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...0&pagenumber=2

Poll lasts 2 days (ends 6/18)

hi ,

sorry , but that is not what panag wants , .......

there is no point in creating poll's that only give a Q to an other Q , ............

and why does this post only last 2 days , ....

if you really want to have a good poll on the topic , no poll , its what the people themself's , at their home at their comp do , .......

as individuals , ..........

have a nice day

Inverse Icarus · June 16, 2002, 12:33

no. in all seriousness any playing ahead should get you kicked out of the game and or banned from poly.

Panag · June 16, 2002, 12:36

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Originally posted by UberKruX
no. in all seriousness any playing ahead should get you kicked out of the game and or banned from poly.

hi ,

its up to the peole who want to do so , without interference of the actual game , ...

have a nice day

Moral Hazard · June 16, 2002, 13:54

I don't mean to be mean. But I suggest you ignore panag's suggestions. It's like he's trolling.

Chandragupta · June 16, 2002, 14:13

Playing ahead!? Excuse me, but if anyone were to play ahead, they may as well have set everything up in about 5 min at home and played their own game by themseleves without all of this debate, counter-debate, election, and more debate. All of this would have been a monumental waste, and I simply wont accept that. Therefore vote = NO.

Inverse Icarus · June 16, 2002, 14:37

panag, did you even vote?

Adagio · June 16, 2002, 14:47

Of course we should be allowed to play ahead, that way we can quicly find out that the Germans are living just a few islands north of our island, but if we go south we meet the Americans and finds a spot with Uranium we wont know exist for a long time...

Hey wait a minute...that will completely spoil the game, so the answer is:

NO WAY!

Kuciwalker · June 16, 2002, 14:51

NO

Inverse Icarus · June 16, 2002, 15:57

no. because in theory i could play the entire thing out myself in 1 day

anyway, we're lucky they got rid of the multi cheat.

Adagio · June 16, 2002, 15:59

Who voted yes?

Moral Hazard · June 16, 2002, 16:00

Someone who isn't playing I'd think.

Captain · June 16, 2002, 16:10

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Originally posted by UberKruX
no. in all seriousness any playing ahead should get you kicked out of the game and or banned from poly.

agreed. playing ahead would seriously ruin the game for the rest of us.

Panag · June 16, 2002, 16:41

Quote:

Originally posted by UberKruX
panag, did you even vote?

hi ,

nope , why , .....

have a nice day

notyoueither · June 16, 2002, 17:54

panag,

If you play ahead and still participate in these forums, it will be very difficult for you not to slip and say something that could effect how the rest of us enjoy the game. Please don't do it.

Panag · June 16, 2002, 18:32

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Originally posted by notyoueither
panag,

If you play ahead and still participate in these forums, it will be very difficult for you not to slip and say something that could effect how the rest of us enjoy the game. Please don't do it.

hi ,

this not what it is about , the real deal is the sav , and the fact about the stratigic planning office , no-one talked about playing ahead , ....

and with the sav , some people shall do so , on their own , playing ahead that is , and that is a good , thing , as long as they play ahead , on their comp , the way they see it as individuals , and then they can compare with the game , it shall be fun , ...

have a nice day

Jon Shafer · June 16, 2002, 19:50

And people argue with me when I suggest that the save file be restricted.

Now you know why.

civman2000 · June 16, 2002, 22:19

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and the fact about the stratigic planning office , no-one talked about playing ahead

You did

Adagio · June 17, 2002, 04:16

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Originally posted by panag
no-one talked about playing ahead , ....

Maybe I'm getting something wrong here, but doesn't those two quotes from you, say two different things about playing ahead?

Quote:

Originally posted by panag
and with the sav , some people shall do so , on their own , playing ahead that is , and that is a good , thing , as long as they play ahead , on their comp , the way they see it as individuals , and then they can compare with the game , it shall be fun , ...

MrWhereItsAt · June 17, 2002, 07:07

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Originally posted by Trip
And people argue with me when I suggest that the save file be restricted.

Now you know why.

NO NO NO NO Panag NO!!!!!!

This IS the main reason why some are against all of us having the save (me included), and I hope punkbass and other supporters of the save-for-all idea take note that some ppl do seriously consider playing ahead.

Panag - if you want to play at your own pace, why don't you do that in your OWN game. What's the point in playing ahead in a game where we are all making the decisions? It opposes the very IDEA of a Democratic game.

Adagio · June 17, 2002, 10:35

Just restrict this area for the people who are playing ahead...Then there wont be any problem

jdjdjd · June 17, 2002, 10:53

We must Oppose this.

arkanjuca · June 17, 2002, 11:43

"Great power comes with great responsabilities"
Uncle Sam

To have the sav, we all need to have the simple responsability of DONT PLAY AHEAD THE ******* GAME.

Can we have some agreement to dont play ahead and get the sav???

Jon Shafer · June 17, 2002, 11:57

There will always be people who don't know/don't care about not being allowed to play ahead.

Pythagoras · June 17, 2002, 13:32

No Way! We could find every possible perumation of events and calculate the best path based on foresight. If ONLY real governments could be run that way, but unfortunatly for politicians and fortunatley for us intense civ3 players theyre not.

ThePlagueRat · June 17, 2002, 13:55

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Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt

NO NO NO NO Panag NO!!!!!!

This IS the main reason why some are against all of us having the save (me included), and I hope punkbass and other supporters of the save-for-all idea take note that some ppl do seriously consider playing ahead.

What a pity for them. Ruining all the fun for them selves?!!
Hmmm, was there a clause in the Apolytionian Constitution regarding death penalty for those cheaters?

Anyway, we all could have use of looking at the actual situation at any time, and so to make up a fair opinion on matters... I think freeing the savegame, and tightening the [

] hangman's noose, is a good solution!

Panag · June 17, 2002, 14:37

hi ,

remeber who started this thread and why it was made , ...

now , for the last time it was suggested that the strategic intel and planning office should do a job , and what is intel , what is stratigic , planning ahead , ....not there for playing the game , but to see , how would this go , and that , basiccaly like in the real world , creating intel , so that when something happens , you can say , well this and that happend there and her , ....

is this so difficult to understand , ....nope , it aint , ...

and before someone start's to say , yeah but you wrote this or that , and you said this or that , ...no problem , but you sometimes have to see the whole pic , and not just take a person(s) on a certain word or so , ....

anyway , no-one talked about playing ahead , something was said , and some-one else , started to talk , "what , playing ahead" , that was never the intention , ...

anyway , have a nice , great , wonderfull day , night , where-ever you are

Captain · June 17, 2002, 15:14

Here's a solution...

Restrict all save games that occurred in the last ten turns. If someone wants a ten turn old save, that's fine, because they won't be able to play out the same way that our President did. Thus, their results of playing ahead won't be close enough to what we're currently doing to inform us of what we should do.

If ten turns isn't enough, make it something else. Just an old save game where results of playing ahead won't be relevant.

What do you think of this compromise?